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Below is the original feedback. However, this is more of an observation right now, this new feedback, and something that should be taken to heart.

You who were on the "Let's do the Great American Smokeout anyway without explaining what's going on" team (that's the only reasonable assumption for what happened), you should be thankful for holding onto your post, should you still have them. In this economic period, especially the days before and the Christmas Shopping Season, any harbor in the storm will have to do in order to get by. The fact that you managed to get jobs at a place you love working at is a blessing in and of itself.

But in the same breath, with unemployment going up and spending trying to go down, companies will do anything they must to try and save money, even cutting the work force. If you weren't fired for being involved in this communication fiasco and for right-out disregarding the "order" of the board of directors not to go forward with the project, you have something to be VERY thankful for right now.

The issue is still with internal communication, but i'm viewing it right now as "We're not going to tell them that we did this." It's like being on your last day of work, shutting off the security camera and vandalizing the inventory warehouse. Leaves a bad mark on you.

While i'd like to know whose necks to wring, i'd rather leave them to their own shame in reading the following statement: You're better than this.

Pay cuts, suspensions or firings - whatever happens, you deserve it for insubordination. You refused to say what was going on. You don't deserve any mercy.

But any mercy you get, you better be gracious for getting any. This was despicable, unprofessional and downright insulting to us, the consumer.

Happy Thanksgiving. Be thankful you can keep your job if you did, but thanks to you, Gaia won't see a damn cent from me until next year. i'm not padding the paychecks of incompetent developers, artists and administrators.


If you can't sack them, do me this favor.

Give them my vast estate of BOOT TO THE HEAD.

RE: The "tobacco ban" and the fact that your employees tried to shove their opinion on us!!!!!

Fin et al., i'm glad you're going to do damage control, but a major dose of explanation is required in order for us to at least get a better sense that you can TRY to not think of your user base as a bunch of idiots ...

i put in money for this Animal Quackers RIG and got a useful item or two out of it - but if you lot can't control your staff, WHAT'S THE POINT of helping hold up this site??? If you can't get these guys to get authorization first for something so drastic, there's something wrong in your office that needs to be addressed. What that particular issue is, i don't know, seeing as i am not an employee. But moving forward with an action without authorization from superiors, is that not a sign of disrespect?

And if not a boot, krazy-glue some gold stars to their face or something. That or those barf stickers. Make them feel SPECIAL for something so stupid.

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I might humbly suggest drawing and quartering, dissolving the remains in strong acid, and then firing them. =]

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I like the crazy glue idea, but instead of gold stars, I would stick

"I fail at life"

all over their faces in big, obnoxious letters. stare

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I might humbly suggest drawing and quartering, dissolving the remains in strong acid, and then firing them. =]

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Out of a cannon? smile


Seriously, though. I think we deserve an explanation.

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lolol that was funny.

And for the serious:

I've begun to wonder this myself. If the staff can't be controlled on what decisions they make, then how do we know that the entire site has the best intentions for users.

This is a low point for Gaia. One that cannot be overlooked. How do you expect your users to trust you enough to spend their hard earned money here, if all this stuff is going on and hardly anyone knows what is going on?

That's not very business like. Even in Fast food restaurants proper communication from the beginning of the line to the end of the line is very important. Everyone must know what is going on, even if it is not their department.

Gaia, this has proven to me that you have a severe communication failure. Between staff and users, staff and staff, and even sometimes users and users.

Lead by example. Show us that you CAN have proper and prompt communication. When you notice something is wrong, at least give notice that you have noticed that somethng is wrong, so we're not all scrambling around in the dark. daily updates on said wrong thing are also a plus, as it keeps everyone informed rapidly, and we don't have to guess when you're gonna say something to us next.

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Given that we don't know the full story here, calling for their heads seems a little harsh to me. Gaia has grown a lot over the years and I imagine very little has to go through Lanzer before it's released these days, it's just not practical for one thing. Presumably somebody authorised this at some point, whether it's a case of someone not paying attention to what they're agreeing to or some people with a lot of power overriding everyone else's opinions. We went a whole weekend with the ban before Lanzer's posts were made, if it was a simple as a couple of naughty employees, someone would have caught it and fixed it pretty quickly.

imho, this is Gaia's mistake and pushing the blame onto one person or group of people would be a very childish move to make. If one "rogue group" of staff did this then why is that possible? Gaia as a company are responsible for this happening and they need to take the blame as a company and stop implying that an individual/a few people are to blame.

I really doubt we'll get an explanation, but I'd like it if we did.

Dapper Lunatic

My sentiments exactly. If we can't get a decent explanation and they can't control members of their staff, how can they expect us to have any confidence in the site as a whole?

And Boot to the Head? Iloveyou.

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I was actually wondering about that myself.

I kind of want to know who it was responsible, but I'm aware that wont happen 'cause the community will go overkill on them, but it would bring a bit of piece of mind to know something was done.
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Given that we don't know the full story here, calling for their heads seems a little harsh to me. Gaia has grown a lot over the years and I imagine very little has to go through Lanzer before it's released these days, it's just not practical for one thing. Presumably somebody authorised this at some point, whether it's a case of someone not paying attention to what they're agreeing to or some people with a lot of power overriding everyone else's opinions. We went a whole weekend with the ban before Lanzer's posts were made, if it was a simple as a couple of naughty employees, someone would have caught it and fixed it pretty quickly.

imho, this is Gaia's mistake and pushing the blame onto one person or group of people would be a very childish move to make. If one "rogue group" of staff did this then why is that possible? Gaia as a company are responsible for this happening and they need to take the blame as a company and stop implying that an individual/a few people are to blame.

I really doubt we'll get an explanation, but I'd like it if we did.
Given that, according to the explanation Lanzer gave us in ATA, it was a rogue group that enacted the ban after the fact that there seemed to be major opposition to whatever they were trying to do, calling for the heads of those IDIOTS who showed a grand disrespect to their employer by overstepping their bounds is in itself a valid demand!

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OP is right.

After reading through more pages, it seems a group of people who had a personal dislike of smoking decided that the entire site shouldn't have tobacco-related items at all. Got it straight from Lanzer's quote.

This is an utter disgrace.

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Part of me wonders if they really did go rouge and do this or if it was done to see how we would react and now that excuse is given so we aren't mad at Gaia.

But I could be wrong. And if I am, I support this boot to the head. xD

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If you can't get these guys to get authorization first for something so drastic, there's something wrong in your office that needs to be addressed. [...] moving forward with an action without authorization from superiors, is that not a sign of disrespect?.


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Part of me wonders if they really did go rouge and do this or if it was done to see how we would react and now that excuse is given so we aren't mad at Gaia.

But I could be wrong. And if I am, I support this boot to the head. xD


How's about, "I hope you're wrong. Because if it WAS just a test, it was quite possibly the most a*****e thing Gaia's done in a long time.

*readies a boot.* >w>

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How's about, "I hope you're wrong. Because if it WAS just a test, it was quite possibly the most a*****e thing Gaia's done in a long time.

*readies a boot.* >w>


If it was a test, a boot would still be useful. <_<

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