Vice reporter detained by Pro-Russian militia (Freed!)

[Revolutionary Justice]

Mitsuki Horenake

Viscount

Mitsuki Horenake

Wow, Russia. Just wow. Jounalists are neutral grounds for each country to use. But I guess you wouldn't know that, seeing as if you're into propaganda and all that.

I say that the UN should step in, but I have the strangest feeling that they're not going to, since Russia is one of the strongest countries in the world, seconded only to America, and I'm pretty sure no soldier in America wants to go back fighting, so I guess we're out. And didn't Obama promise that we'd stop going to war, so he'll have to go by that promise even though he's dooming a nation or some fun stuff like that?

Then again, I'm kinda annoyed that there are people in Ukraine who'd rather be Russian without, say, filing the proper paperwork to be Russian. I dunno...

I know a lot of soldiers who say they'd re-enlist if this became a war. I don't think manpower is an issue, it's more the threat of nuclear exchange. Russia is taking advantage of the fact that most countries are going to try to avoid a true Cold War.

Oh, so soldiers aren't a problem? Well that's good to hear. But what about the taxpayers that funded the war? You know, the common individual? I'm pretty sure they don't want to get involved. I remember when Syria was revealed to be bombing people with chemical weapons, and most people were like "******** those guys, bring our men home!" or something racist like that.

I dunno, I just feel like that mindset is going to carry over to this scenario.

And Russia, the best manipulator in the world. It's like the best horror movie ever: the threat is always there, but it never happens.

And we're supposed to go to war with Russia because they want Ukraine(or at least parts of it)? Yeah, I don't feel like dying for something my government has done twice since I've been alive. We're allowed to invade countries and start wars with no invasion of course but Russia? In territory where, if it comes down to it, large swaths of the population is ethnically Russian and might prefer to be Russian? I'm against Russian imperialism and I hope they don't invade Ukraine. As an American you really have no room to judge. I mean you sit here and complain we didn't go to war with Syria. Why were we supposed to do that? Syria attack us recently? How can you make this criticism of Russia but go around complaining that we're not going to war in foreign countries enough? Going to full out war with Russia over it is just crazy talk.

What we need is an alternative to the system which creates competing imperialisms.

[Mitsuki Horenake]

Revolutionary Justice

Mitsuki Horenake

Viscount

Mitsuki Horenake

Wow, Russia. Just wow. Jounalists are neutral grounds for each country to use. But I guess you wouldn't know that, seeing as if you're into propaganda and all that.

I say that the UN should step in, but I have the strangest feeling that they're not going to, since Russia is one of the strongest countries in the world, seconded only to America, and I'm pretty sure no soldier in America wants to go back fighting, so I guess we're out. And didn't Obama promise that we'd stop going to war, so he'll have to go by that promise even though he's dooming a nation or some fun stuff like that?

Then again, I'm kinda annoyed that there are people in Ukraine who'd rather be Russian without, say, filing the proper paperwork to be Russian. I dunno...

I know a lot of soldiers who say they'd re-enlist if this became a war. I don't think manpower is an issue, it's more the threat of nuclear exchange. Russia is taking advantage of the fact that most countries are going to try to avoid a true Cold War.

Oh, so soldiers aren't a problem? Well that's good to hear. But what about the taxpayers that funded the war? You know, the common individual? I'm pretty sure they don't want to get involved. I remember when Syria was revealed to be bombing people with chemical weapons, and most people were like "******** those guys, bring our men home!" or something racist like that.

I dunno, I just feel like that mindset is going to carry over to this scenario.

And Russia, the best manipulator in the world. It's like the best horror movie ever: the threat is always there, but it never happens.

And we're supposed to go to war with Russia because they want Ukraine(or at least parts of it)? Yeah, I don't feel like dying for something my government has done twice since I've been alive. We're allowed to invade countries and start wars with no invasion of course but Russia? In territory where, if it comes down to it, large swaths of the population is ethnically Russian and might prefer to be Russian? I'm against Russian imperialism and I hope they don't invade Ukraine. As an American you really have no room to judge. I mean you sit here and complain we didn't go to war with Syria. Why were we supposed to do that? Syria attack us recently? How can you make this criticism of Russia but go around complaining that we're not going to war in foreign countries enough? Going to full out war with Russia over it is just crazy talk.

What we need is an alternative to the system which creates competing imperialisms.

You just proved my point. The UN wants to intervene, but there's no willing bodies to do so. And if Russia does invade Ukraine because apparently Ukraine is SO WILLING to be Russia, then what? Do we fight now? Or would you rather the US stand back (because AMERICAN IMPERIALISM) and watch the European Union flail against Russia as it takes up Ukraine the same way you pick up an Easter egg? Doesn't matter, Russia hasn't physically attacked us. In fact, in your words, Russia could just TAKE OVER THE ENTIRE WORLD and just leave the US untouched in their new kingdom and we still wouldn't have incentive to attack them.

And now that Syria is resorting to using even MORE illegal weapons to kill their own citizens, some third party has to intervene. Otherwise, we'll just ban those weapons and Syria might just start merging into Iran or something.

Like...socialism?

[Willow Louviere]

Mitsuki Horenake

Not to mention this is all looking over Russia's glaring hypocrisy in chastising the United States for wanting to get involved in Syria's Civil War, then turning around and doing 'the same ******** thing' with Ukraine.

[Omnileech]

Revolutionary Justice

Mitsuki Horenake

Viscount

Mitsuki Horenake

Wow, Russia. Just wow. Jounalists are neutral grounds for each country to use. But I guess you wouldn't know that, seeing as if you're into propaganda and all that.

I say that the UN should step in, but I have the strangest feeling that they're not going to, since Russia is one of the strongest countries in the world, seconded only to America, and I'm pretty sure no soldier in America wants to go back fighting, so I guess we're out. And didn't Obama promise that we'd stop going to war, so he'll have to go by that promise even though he's dooming a nation or some fun stuff like that?

Then again, I'm kinda annoyed that there are people in Ukraine who'd rather be Russian without, say, filing the proper paperwork to be Russian. I dunno...

I know a lot of soldiers who say they'd re-enlist if this became a war. I don't think manpower is an issue, it's more the threat of nuclear exchange. Russia is taking advantage of the fact that most countries are going to try to avoid a true Cold War.

Oh, so soldiers aren't a problem? Well that's good to hear. But what about the taxpayers that funded the war? You know, the common individual? I'm pretty sure they don't want to get involved. I remember when Syria was revealed to be bombing people with chemical weapons, and most people were like "******** those guys, bring our men home!" or something racist like that.

I dunno, I just feel like that mindset is going to carry over to this scenario.

And Russia, the best manipulator in the world. It's like the best horror movie ever: the threat is always there, but it never happens.

And we're supposed to go to war with Russia because they want Ukraine(or at least parts of it)? Yeah, I don't feel like dying for something my government has done twice since I've been alive. We're allowed to invade countries and start wars with no invasion of course but Russia? In territory where, if it comes down to it, large swaths of the population is ethnically Russian and might prefer to be Russian? I'm against Russian imperialism and I hope they don't invade Ukraine. As an American you really have no room to judge. I mean you sit here and complain we didn't go to war with Syria. Why were we supposed to do that? Syria attack us recently? How can you make this criticism of Russia but go around complaining that we're not going to war in foreign countries enough? Going to full out war with Russia over it is just crazy talk.

What we need is an alternative to the system which creates competing imperialisms.

That's nice, but first you should be worried about stopping imperialists especially when they're flagrantly violating human rights. No one is as bad as Russia in that regard, the United States doesn't censure the media, plan to hijack the internet (Putin somehow wants to make his own internet because he doesn't like the one the United States made many decades ago), the United States doesn't kidnap and abuse news reporters or imprison reporters, doesn't have a dedicated state-sponsored news network aimed to pump out pro-administration propaganda, doesn't run blatantly rigged elections (no choice for STATUS QUO in that one) under threat of violence from armed troops like in Crimea, doesn't send in armed troops into area and then lie where they take their orders from (Putin's "self-defense" forces were Russian, he lied about that then admitted to that lie) The United States doesn't threaten war against neighboring countries for trading or diplomacy with other powers. You know what? Americans have room to judge. Russia's been acting pretty shitty and while the United States has been doing some inexcusable things in the past 13 years, it pales in comparison to what Russia does.

[Revolutionary Justice]

Mitsuki Horenake

Revolutionary Justice

Mitsuki Horenake

Viscount

Mitsuki Horenake

Wow, Russia. Just wow. Jounalists are neutral grounds for each country to use. But I guess you wouldn't know that, seeing as if you're into propaganda and all that.

I say that the UN should step in, but I have the strangest feeling that they're not going to, since Russia is one of the strongest countries in the world, seconded only to America, and I'm pretty sure no soldier in America wants to go back fighting, so I guess we're out. And didn't Obama promise that we'd stop going to war, so he'll have to go by that promise even though he's dooming a nation or some fun stuff like that?

Then again, I'm kinda annoyed that there are people in Ukraine who'd rather be Russian without, say, filing the proper paperwork to be Russian. I dunno...

I know a lot of soldiers who say they'd re-enlist if this became a war. I don't think manpower is an issue, it's more the threat of nuclear exchange. Russia is taking advantage of the fact that most countries are going to try to avoid a true Cold War.

Oh, so soldiers aren't a problem? Well that's good to hear. But what about the taxpayers that funded the war? You know, the common individual? I'm pretty sure they don't want to get involved. I remember when Syria was revealed to be bombing people with chemical weapons, and most people were like "******** those guys, bring our men home!" or something racist like that.

I dunno, I just feel like that mindset is going to carry over to this scenario.

And Russia, the best manipulator in the world. It's like the best horror movie ever: the threat is always there, but it never happens.

And we're supposed to go to war with Russia because they want Ukraine(or at least parts of it)? Yeah, I don't feel like dying for something my government has done twice since I've been alive. We're allowed to invade countries and start wars with no invasion of course but Russia? In territory where, if it comes down to it, large swaths of the population is ethnically Russian and might prefer to be Russian? I'm against Russian imperialism and I hope they don't invade Ukraine. As an American you really have no room to judge. I mean you sit here and complain we didn't go to war with Syria. Why were we supposed to do that? Syria attack us recently? How can you make this criticism of Russia but go around complaining that we're not going to war in foreign countries enough? Going to full out war with Russia over it is just crazy talk.

What we need is an alternative to the system which creates competing imperialisms.

You just proved my point. The UN wants to intervene, but there's no willing bodies to do so. And if Russia does invade Ukraine because apparently Ukraine is SO WILLING to be Russia, then what? Do we fight now? Or would you rather the US stand back (because AMERICAN IMPERIALISM) and watch the European Union flail against Russia as it takes up Ukraine the same way you pick up an Easter egg? Doesn't matter, Russia hasn't physically attacked us. In fact, in your words, Russia could just TAKE OVER THE ENTIRE WORLD and just leave the US untouched in their new kingdom and we still wouldn't have incentive to attack them.

And now that Syria is resorting to using even MORE illegal weapons to kill their own citizens, some third party has to intervene. Otherwise, we'll just ban those weapons and Syria might just start merging into Iran or something.

Like...socialism?

I hope I did prove your point because we shouldn't go to war with Russia. Or with Syria for that matter. What good reasons can you give me to go to war with either one? Let's go to war with Russia because they're trying to maintain their sphere of influence that has always been over Ukraine? Go to war with Syria because they may or may not have used chemical weapons(it's pretty unclear who used them, it could have been rebels) which is illegal? Remember when the UN said it was illegal for the US to go to war with Iraq? Remember the death and destruction there, the depleted uranium that still continues to disfigure people and their children? According to your logic U.S. Should have been invaded by now. Remember all the illegal torturing the international community condemned us for? We've done so much "illegal" s**t, get the ******** off your high horse thinking America is exceptional.

Yes, what we need is socialism, cooperation.

[Revolutionary Justice]

Omnileech

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Mitsuki Horenake

Viscount

Mitsuki Horenake

Wow, Russia. Just wow. Jounalists are neutral grounds for each country to use. But I guess you wouldn't know that, seeing as if you're into propaganda and all that.

I say that the UN should step in, but I have the strangest feeling that they're not going to, since Russia is one of the strongest countries in the world, seconded only to America, and I'm pretty sure no soldier in America wants to go back fighting, so I guess we're out. And didn't Obama promise that we'd stop going to war, so he'll have to go by that promise even though he's dooming a nation or some fun stuff like that?

Then again, I'm kinda annoyed that there are people in Ukraine who'd rather be Russian without, say, filing the proper paperwork to be Russian. I dunno...

I know a lot of soldiers who say they'd re-enlist if this became a war. I don't think manpower is an issue, it's more the threat of nuclear exchange. Russia is taking advantage of the fact that most countries are going to try to avoid a true Cold War.

Oh, so soldiers aren't a problem? Well that's good to hear. But what about the taxpayers that funded the war? You know, the common individual? I'm pretty sure they don't want to get involved. I remember when Syria was revealed to be bombing people with chemical weapons, and most people were like "******** those guys, bring our men home!" or something racist like that.

I dunno, I just feel like that mindset is going to carry over to this scenario.

And Russia, the best manipulator in the world. It's like the best horror movie ever: the threat is always there, but it never happens.

And we're supposed to go to war with Russia because they want Ukraine(or at least parts of it)? Yeah, I don't feel like dying for something my government has done twice since I've been alive. We're allowed to invade countries and start wars with no invasion of course but Russia? In territory where, if it comes down to it, large swaths of the population is ethnically Russian and might prefer to be Russian? I'm against Russian imperialism and I hope they don't invade Ukraine. As an American you really have no room to judge. I mean you sit here and complain we didn't go to war with Syria. Why were we supposed to do that? Syria attack us recently? How can you make this criticism of Russia but go around complaining that we're not going to war in foreign countries enough? Going to full out war with Russia over it is just crazy talk.

What we need is an alternative to the system which creates competing imperialisms.

That's nice, but first you should be worried about stopping imperialists especially when they're flagrantly violating human rights. No one is as bad as Russia in that regard, the United States doesn't censure the media, plan to hijack the internet (Putin somehow wants to make his own internet because he doesn't like the one the United States made many decades ago), the United States doesn't kidnap and abuse news reporters or imprison reporters, doesn't have a dedicated state-sponsored news network aimed to pump out pro-administration propaganda, doesn't run blatantly rigged elections (no choice for STATUS QUO in that one) under threat of violence from armed troops like in Crimea, doesn't send in armed troops into area and then lie where they take their orders from (Putin's "self-defense" forces were Russian, he lied about that then admitted to that lie) The United States doesn't threaten war against neighboring countries for trading or diplomacy with other powers. You know what? Americans have room to judge. Russia's been acting pretty shitty and while the United States has been doing some inexcusable things in the past 13 years, it pales in comparison to what Russia does.

Lol, no, it really doesn't pale in comparison to U.S. history. I mean you want to talk about censorship seriously? While Snowden is still in exile in Russia? After we viciously went after Assange? Remember the lead up to the Iraq war when journalists speaking against the war were fired for it? But even so you're willing to start WW3 over it? Russia is losing influence in the region and desperately trying to hold onto it(I think Obama was right when he said Russia was acting out of weakness). We're really going to start all out total war for it? Why? Just so America can have Ukraine? What makes us better than Russia in that regards then?

[Omnileech]

Revolutionary Justice

Omnileech

Revolutionary Justice

Mitsuki Horenake

Viscount

Mitsuki Horenake

Wow, Russia. Just wow. Jounalists are neutral grounds for each country to use. But I guess you wouldn't know that, seeing as if you're into propaganda and all that.

I say that the UN should step in, but I have the strangest feeling that they're not going to, since Russia is one of the strongest countries in the world, seconded only to America, and I'm pretty sure no soldier in America wants to go back fighting, so I guess we're out. And didn't Obama promise that we'd stop going to war, so he'll have to go by that promise even though he's dooming a nation or some fun stuff like that?

Then again, I'm kinda annoyed that there are people in Ukraine who'd rather be Russian without, say, filing the proper paperwork to be Russian. I dunno...

I know a lot of soldiers who say they'd re-enlist if this became a war. I don't think manpower is an issue, it's more the threat of nuclear exchange. Russia is taking advantage of the fact that most countries are going to try to avoid a true Cold War.

Oh, so soldiers aren't a problem? Well that's good to hear. But what about the taxpayers that funded the war? You know, the common individual? I'm pretty sure they don't want to get involved. I remember when Syria was revealed to be bombing people with chemical weapons, and most people were like "******** those guys, bring our men home!" or something racist like that.

I dunno, I just feel like that mindset is going to carry over to this scenario.

And Russia, the best manipulator in the world. It's like the best horror movie ever: the threat is always there, but it never happens.

And we're supposed to go to war with Russia because they want Ukraine(or at least parts of it)? Yeah, I don't feel like dying for something my government has done twice since I've been alive. We're allowed to invade countries and start wars with no invasion of course but Russia? In territory where, if it comes down to it, large swaths of the population is ethnically Russian and might prefer to be Russian? I'm against Russian imperialism and I hope they don't invade Ukraine. As an American you really have no room to judge. I mean you sit here and complain we didn't go to war with Syria. Why were we supposed to do that? Syria attack us recently? How can you make this criticism of Russia but go around complaining that we're not going to war in foreign countries enough? Going to full out war with Russia over it is just crazy talk.

What we need is an alternative to the system which creates competing imperialisms.

That's nice, but first you should be worried about stopping imperialists especially when they're flagrantly violating human rights. No one is as bad as Russia in that regard, the United States doesn't censure the media, plan to hijack the internet (Putin somehow wants to make his own internet because he doesn't like the one the United States made many decades ago), the United States doesn't kidnap and abuse news reporters or imprison reporters, doesn't have a dedicated state-sponsored news network aimed to pump out pro-administration propaganda, doesn't run blatantly rigged elections (no choice for STATUS QUO in that one) under threat of violence from armed troops like in Crimea, doesn't send in armed troops into area and then lie where they take their orders from (Putin's "self-defense" forces were Russian, he lied about that then admitted to that lie) The United States doesn't threaten war against neighboring countries for trading or diplomacy with other powers. You know what? Americans have room to judge. Russia's been acting pretty shitty and while the United States has been doing some inexcusable things in the past 13 years, it pales in comparison to what Russia does.

Lol, no, it really doesn't pale in comparison to U.S. history. I mean you want to talk about censorship seriously? While Snowden is still in exile in Russia? After we viciously went after Assange? Remember the lead up to the Iraq war when journalists speaking against the war were fired for it? But even so you're willing to start WW3 over it? Russia is losing influence in the region and desperately trying to hold onto it(I think Obama was right when he said Russia was acting out of weakness). We're really going to start all out total war for it? Why? Just so America can have Ukraine? What makes us better than Russia in that regards then?

Snowden fled out of the country and has no right to return after he broke the law and exploited his clearance. Bradley Manning broke the law and Assange abetted that. Going after "journalists" who have run foul of the law Is a far cry from assasinations and arresting people for being critical of Putin Being fired from a news company? Not government cracking down on the press and PLENTY of people in the media were critical of Iraq throughout the war and didn't get fired or arrested or murdered.

If Russia is losing influence and has turned to acting out Hitler's Germany now then I sure as hell would hope that someone would step up to stop Russia before they start a bloody war with Ukraine because nobody will oppose them.

America isn't going to annex Ukraine and comparing America to Russia here is again absurd. What does a free Ukraine get to decide? If they want to voluntarily join NATO or the EU if they decide to. You find that analogous to Russia taking Ukraine by force.

[Mitsuki Horenake]

Revolutionary Justice

Mitsuki Horenake

Revolutionary Justice

Mitsuki Horenake

Viscount

Mitsuki Horenake

Wow, Russia. Just wow. Jounalists are neutral grounds for each country to use. But I guess you wouldn't know that, seeing as if you're into propaganda and all that.

I say that the UN should step in, but I have the strangest feeling that they're not going to, since Russia is one of the strongest countries in the world, seconded only to America, and I'm pretty sure no soldier in America wants to go back fighting, so I guess we're out. And didn't Obama promise that we'd stop going to war, so he'll have to go by that promise even though he's dooming a nation or some fun stuff like that?

Then again, I'm kinda annoyed that there are people in Ukraine who'd rather be Russian without, say, filing the proper paperwork to be Russian. I dunno...

I know a lot of soldiers who say they'd re-enlist if this became a war. I don't think manpower is an issue, it's more the threat of nuclear exchange. Russia is taking advantage of the fact that most countries are going to try to avoid a true Cold War.

Oh, so soldiers aren't a problem? Well that's good to hear. But what about the taxpayers that funded the war? You know, the common individual? I'm pretty sure they don't want to get involved. I remember when Syria was revealed to be bombing people with chemical weapons, and most people were like "******** those guys, bring our men home!" or something racist like that.

I dunno, I just feel like that mindset is going to carry over to this scenario.

And Russia, the best manipulator in the world. It's like the best horror movie ever: the threat is always there, but it never happens.

And we're supposed to go to war with Russia because they want Ukraine(or at least parts of it)? Yeah, I don't feel like dying for something my government has done twice since I've been alive. We're allowed to invade countries and start wars with no invasion of course but Russia? In territory where, if it comes down to it, large swaths of the population is ethnically Russian and might prefer to be Russian? I'm against Russian imperialism and I hope they don't invade Ukraine. As an American you really have no room to judge. I mean you sit here and complain we didn't go to war with Syria. Why were we supposed to do that? Syria attack us recently? How can you make this criticism of Russia but go around complaining that we're not going to war in foreign countries enough? Going to full out war with Russia over it is just crazy talk.

What we need is an alternative to the system which creates competing imperialisms.

You just proved my point. The UN wants to intervene, but there's no willing bodies to do so. And if Russia does invade Ukraine because apparently Ukraine is SO WILLING to be Russia, then what? Do we fight now? Or would you rather the US stand back (because AMERICAN IMPERIALISM) and watch the European Union flail against Russia as it takes up Ukraine the same way you pick up an Easter egg? Doesn't matter, Russia hasn't physically attacked us. In fact, in your words, Russia could just TAKE OVER THE ENTIRE WORLD and just leave the US untouched in their new kingdom and we still wouldn't have incentive to attack them.

And now that Syria is resorting to using even MORE illegal weapons to kill their own citizens, some third party has to intervene. Otherwise, we'll just ban those weapons and Syria might just start merging into Iran or something.

Like...socialism?

I hope I did prove your point because we shouldn't go to war with Russia. Or with Syria for that matter. What good reasons can you give me to go to war with either one? Let's go to war with Russia because they're trying to maintain their sphere of influence that has always been over Ukraine? Go to war with Syria because they may or may not have used chemical weapons(it's pretty unclear who used them, it could have been rebels) which is illegal? Remember when the UN said it was illegal for the US to go to war with Iraq? Remember the death and destruction there, the depleted uranium that still continues to disfigure people and their children? According to your logic U.S. Should have been invaded by now. Remember all the illegal torturing the international community condemned us for? We've done so much "illegal" s**t, get the ******** off your high horse thinking America is exceptional.

Yes, what we need is socialism, cooperation.

Sooooo...if Russia invades and takes over Ukraine...you're fine with it? Cause that's what I got out of you. And last time I checked, the only reason why I said the US should do something is because we're the only one with the army strong enough to keep Russia in check. And if the US doesn't do anything, would you rather the EU or the UN do something about it?

Here's the problem. Communism is basically when people try to run socialism, because humanity is innately greedy. Unless you're telling me that the entire world should just pull a Canada and just be Canada. In which case that's a great idea.

[Mitsuki Horenake]

Willow Louviere

Mitsuki Horenake

Not to mention this is all looking over Russia's glaring hypocrisy in chastising the United States for wanting to get involved in Syria's Civil War, then turning around and doing 'the same ******** thing' with Ukraine.

But alas, the US is such a hypocrite the other half of the time that the world can't even see if anyone else other than the US is a hypocrite. It's as if the world cannot get past the notion that maybe the United States isn't the only bad guy in the world. Everyone's overlooking it because "pfft. America's the one pointing it out, so maybe they're wrong!"

I hate the notion that America is initially seen as wrong no matter what, without even giving it the time for you to explain why it's wrong.

[Revolutionary Justice]

Omnileech

Revolutionary Justice

Omnileech

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Mitsuki Horenake

Oh, so soldiers aren't a problem? Well that's good to hear. But what about the taxpayers that funded the war? You know, the common individual? I'm pretty sure they don't want to get involved. I remember when Syria was revealed to be bombing people with chemical weapons, and most people were like "******** those guys, bring our men home!" or something racist like that.

I dunno, I just feel like that mindset is going to carry over to this scenario.

And Russia, the best manipulator in the world. It's like the best horror movie ever: the threat is always there, but it never happens.

And we're supposed to go to war with Russia because they want Ukraine(or at least parts of it)? Yeah, I don't feel like dying for something my government has done twice since I've been alive. We're allowed to invade countries and start wars with no invasion of course but Russia? In territory where, if it comes down to it, large swaths of the population is ethnically Russian and might prefer to be Russian? I'm against Russian imperialism and I hope they don't invade Ukraine. As an American you really have no room to judge. I mean you sit here and complain we didn't go to war with Syria. Why were we supposed to do that? Syria attack us recently? How can you make this criticism of Russia but go around complaining that we're not going to war in foreign countries enough? Going to full out war with Russia over it is just crazy talk.

What we need is an alternative to the system which creates competing imperialisms.

That's nice, but first you should be worried about stopping imperialists especially when they're flagrantly violating human rights. No one is as bad as Russia in that regard, the United States doesn't censure the media, plan to hijack the internet (Putin somehow wants to make his own internet because he doesn't like the one the United States made many decades ago), the United States doesn't kidnap and abuse news reporters or imprison reporters, doesn't have a dedicated state-sponsored news network aimed to pump out pro-administration propaganda, doesn't run blatantly rigged elections (no choice for STATUS QUO in that one) under threat of violence from armed troops like in Crimea, doesn't send in armed troops into area and then lie where they take their orders from (Putin's "self-defense" forces were Russian, he lied about that then admitted to that lie) The United States doesn't threaten war against neighboring countries for trading or diplomacy with other powers. You know what? Americans have room to judge. Russia's been acting pretty shitty and while the United States has been doing some inexcusable things in the past 13 years, it pales in comparison to what Russia does.

Lol, no, it really doesn't pale in comparison to U.S. history. I mean you want to talk about censorship seriously? While Snowden is still in exile in Russia? After we viciously went after Assange? Remember the lead up to the Iraq war when journalists speaking against the war were fired for it? But even so you're willing to start WW3 over it? Russia is losing influence in the region and desperately trying to hold onto it(I think Obama was right when he said Russia was acting out of weakness). We're really going to start all out total war for it? Why? Just so America can have Ukraine? What makes us better than Russia in that regards then?

Snowden fled out of the country and has no right to return after he broke the law and exploited his clearance. Bradley Manning broke the law and Assange abetted that. Going after "journalists" who have run foul of the law Is a far cry from assasinations and arresting people for being critical of Putin Being fired from a news company? Not government cracking down on the press and PLENTY of people in the media were critical of Iraq throughout the war and didn't get fired or arrested or murdered.

If Russia is losing influence and has turned to acting out Hitler's Germany now then I sure as hell would hope that someone would step up to stop Russia before they start a bloody war with Ukraine because nobody will oppose them.

America isn't going to annex Ukraine and comparing America to Russia here is again absurd. What does a free Ukraine get to decide? If they want to voluntarily join NATO or the EU if they decide to. You find that analogous to Russia taking Ukraine by force.

Nice hyperbole, Putin is not Hitler despite the fact everybody seems to believe so. We have started at least one illegal war since I've been alive that was condemned by the international community that included chemical warfare, torture, carpet bombing, etc, etc. How many countries called for our invasion? Israel on a daily basis erodes it's neighbors borders and we supply them with 8 million dollars a day! Have you ever seen me advocate for the United States to be invaded or for another country to go to war with America or with Israel though? How many times has the U.S. Tried to overthrow governments not favorable to itself and succeeded? The problem with Russia doing anything of this nature from American eyes is because they're seen as competitors, we are not as exceptional as our inflated egos presume, it is this ridiculous paradigm that we're fighting on that needs to be struggled against on a global level. The anti-imperialist does not say let's use the worlds largest imperialist powers army to go to war to squash our competition, that is not anti-imperialism, that is furthering U.S. imperialist aims. Not that Russia invading a country is a good thing but this is just competition between two imperialist poles for more control over the pie with regular people stuck in the middle of it who have no way of fighting for their own interests.

[Revolutionary Justice]

Mitsuki Horenake

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Mitsuki Horenake

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Mitsuki Horenake

Oh, so soldiers aren't a problem? Well that's good to hear. But what about the taxpayers that funded the war? You know, the common individual? I'm pretty sure they don't want to get involved. I remember when Syria was revealed to be bombing people with chemical weapons, and most people were like "******** those guys, bring our men home!" or something racist like that.

I dunno, I just feel like that mindset is going to carry over to this scenario.

And Russia, the best manipulator in the world. It's like the best horror movie ever: the threat is always there, but it never happens.

And we're supposed to go to war with Russia because they want Ukraine(or at least parts of it)? Yeah, I don't feel like dying for something my government has done twice since I've been alive. We're allowed to invade countries and start wars with no invasion of course but Russia? In territory where, if it comes down to it, large swaths of the population is ethnically Russian and might prefer to be Russian? I'm against Russian imperialism and I hope they don't invade Ukraine. As an American you really have no room to judge. I mean you sit here and complain we didn't go to war with Syria. Why were we supposed to do that? Syria attack us recently? How can you make this criticism of Russia but go around complaining that we're not going to war in foreign countries enough? Going to full out war with Russia over it is just crazy talk.

What we need is an alternative to the system which creates competing imperialisms.

You just proved my point. The UN wants to intervene, but there's no willing bodies to do so. And if Russia does invade Ukraine because apparently Ukraine is SO WILLING to be Russia, then what? Do we fight now? Or would you rather the US stand back (because AMERICAN IMPERIALISM) and watch the European Union flail against Russia as it takes up Ukraine the same way you pick up an Easter egg? Doesn't matter, Russia hasn't physically attacked us. In fact, in your words, Russia could just TAKE OVER THE ENTIRE WORLD and just leave the US untouched in their new kingdom and we still wouldn't have incentive to attack them.

And now that Syria is resorting to using even MORE illegal weapons to kill their own citizens, some third party has to intervene. Otherwise, we'll just ban those weapons and Syria might just start merging into Iran or something.

Like...socialism?

I hope I did prove your point because we shouldn't go to war with Russia. Or with Syria for that matter. What good reasons can you give me to go to war with either one? Let's go to war with Russia because they're trying to maintain their sphere of influence that has always been over Ukraine? Go to war with Syria because they may or may not have used chemical weapons(it's pretty unclear who used them, it could have been rebels) which is illegal? Remember when the UN said it was illegal for the US to go to war with Iraq? Remember the death and destruction there, the depleted uranium that still continues to disfigure people and their children? According to your logic U.S. Should have been invaded by now. Remember all the illegal torturing the international community condemned us for? We've done so much "illegal" s**t, get the ******** off your high horse thinking America is exceptional.

Yes, what we need is socialism, cooperation.

Sooooo...if Russia invades and takes over Ukraine...you're fine with it? Cause that's what I got out of you. And last time I checked, the only reason why I said the US should do something is because we're the only one with the army strong enough to keep Russia in check. And if the US doesn't do anything, would you rather the EU or the UN do something about it?

Here's the problem. Communism is basically when people try to run socialism, because humanity is innately greedy. Unless you're telling me that the entire world should just pull a Canada and just be Canada. In which case that's a great idea.

No I'm not fine with it, just like I wasn't fine with the Iraq War. If Russia decided to stand up to U.S. imperialism when we were unjustly going to go to war with Iraq by starting a war with us would you have been alright with it? I'm guessing no and I wouldn't be in favor of that either. My position is both poles of the conflict are to be struggled against. If you want it to be put simply, both sides are the bad guys and I'm not willing to die for one bad guy because they don't like the moves the other bad guy is making, even though it's similar to stuff that bad guys done. What are my motivations to go to war for the U.S.? So that when I come back I can return to this s**t? Workers in Russia should be thinking the same thing because they face crippling inequality and misery at home too.

The problem with communism is it's socialist? And I think humans are more multi-faceted than that and can cooperate. The problem is we have a system that says greed is good so you're bound to see a s**t ton of greed if you're rewarded for it. If you're greedy, that's you, don't project that onto me. And if you are greedy you should be ashamed of yourself.

[Mitsuki Horenake]

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Mitsuki Horenake

Revolutionary Justice

Mitsuki Horenake

Revolutionary Justice

Mitsuki Horenake

Oh, so soldiers aren't a problem? Well that's good to hear. But what about the taxpayers that funded the war? You know, the common individual? I'm pretty sure they don't want to get involved. I remember when Syria was revealed to be bombing people with chemical weapons, and most people were like "******** those guys, bring our men home!" or something racist like that.

I dunno, I just feel like that mindset is going to carry over to this scenario.

And Russia, the best manipulator in the world. It's like the best horror movie ever: the threat is always there, but it never happens.

And we're supposed to go to war with Russia because they want Ukraine(or at least parts of it)? Yeah, I don't feel like dying for something my government has done twice since I've been alive. We're allowed to invade countries and start wars with no invasion of course but Russia? In territory where, if it comes down to it, large swaths of the population is ethnically Russian and might prefer to be Russian? I'm against Russian imperialism and I hope they don't invade Ukraine. As an American you really have no room to judge. I mean you sit here and complain we didn't go to war with Syria. Why were we supposed to do that? Syria attack us recently? How can you make this criticism of Russia but go around complaining that we're not going to war in foreign countries enough? Going to full out war with Russia over it is just crazy talk.

What we need is an alternative to the system which creates competing imperialisms.

You just proved my point. The UN wants to intervene, but there's no willing bodies to do so. And if Russia does invade Ukraine because apparently Ukraine is SO WILLING to be Russia, then what? Do we fight now? Or would you rather the US stand back (because AMERICAN IMPERIALISM) and watch the European Union flail against Russia as it takes up Ukraine the same way you pick up an Easter egg? Doesn't matter, Russia hasn't physically attacked us. In fact, in your words, Russia could just TAKE OVER THE ENTIRE WORLD and just leave the US untouched in their new kingdom and we still wouldn't have incentive to attack them.

And now that Syria is resorting to using even MORE illegal weapons to kill their own citizens, some third party has to intervene. Otherwise, we'll just ban those weapons and Syria might just start merging into Iran or something.

Like...socialism?

I hope I did prove your point because we shouldn't go to war with Russia. Or with Syria for that matter. What good reasons can you give me to go to war with either one? Let's go to war with Russia because they're trying to maintain their sphere of influence that has always been over Ukraine? Go to war with Syria because they may or may not have used chemical weapons(it's pretty unclear who used them, it could have been rebels) which is illegal? Remember when the UN said it was illegal for the US to go to war with Iraq? Remember the death and destruction there, the depleted uranium that still continues to disfigure people and their children? According to your logic U.S. Should have been invaded by now. Remember all the illegal torturing the international community condemned us for? We've done so much "illegal" s**t, get the ******** off your high horse thinking America is exceptional.

Yes, what we need is socialism, cooperation.

Sooooo...if Russia invades and takes over Ukraine...you're fine with it? Cause that's what I got out of you. And last time I checked, the only reason why I said the US should do something is because we're the only one with the army strong enough to keep Russia in check. And if the US doesn't do anything, would you rather the EU or the UN do something about it?

Here's the problem. Communism is basically when people try to run socialism, because humanity is innately greedy. Unless you're telling me that the entire world should just pull a Canada and just be Canada. In which case that's a great idea.

No I'm not fine with it, just like I wasn't fine with the Iraq War. If Russia decided to stand up to U.S. imperialism when we were unjustly going to go to war with Iraq by starting a war with us would you have been alright with it? I'm guessing no and I wouldn't be in favor of that either. My position is both poles of the conflict are to be struggled against. If you want it to be put simply, both sides are the bad guys and I'm not willing to die for one bad guy because they don't like the moves the other bad guy is making, even though it's similar to stuff that bad guys done. What are my motivations to go to war for the U.S.? So that when I come back I can return to this s**t? Workers in Russia should be thinking the same thing because they face crippling inequality and misery at home too.

The problem with communism is it's socialist? And I think humans are more multi-faceted than that and can cooperate. The problem is we have a system that says greed is good so you're bound to see a s**t ton of greed if you're rewarded for it. If you're greedy, that's you, don't project that onto me. And if you are greedy you should be ashamed of yourself.

Ohhhhh, so you think both sides are s**t. All right. I'm pretty sure Russian soldiers aren't going to rebel if Putin gives the order to just take over Ukraine. Besides, if Russia decides to just screw it and invade Ukraine, then what? I don't think you told me what you think we should do if that would happen. How about the UN? You think they should interfere?

No, that's not really it. Yes, humans are multi-faceted. I also have to say that there's some form of greed running through all of them. A group of people can run a socialist government. There's a good chance that the successors can't. And their successors might get a tad bit curious on their greed. And there's a good chance THEIR successors are gonna ******** up the system. Remember, the US capitalist system worked perfectly fine when it was first installed; it was their successors that ended up ruining the system. A group of people can run a socialistic country perfectly fine: humans are gonna find a way to wreck a system.

And besides, if all first world countries find a way to get along and then one of them decides to start nuking everyone, then what?

[xdivision_whitey]

And they said he wasn't detained. YAH RIGHT.