Kids caught watching porn on school I-Pads

[Henrika]

BerserkLeon

Oh no, I spilled coffee on my bookbag!
Now I owe the school like 600$ or w/e their silly price is.

Oh no, I spilled coffee (why the ******** is a 2nd grader drinking coffee...) on my book bag! Now I owe the school like $600 or w/e the silly total price of 5-6 $150 textbooks that got ruined amounts to.

[Larry Matasareanu The 2nd]

If these things work like computers you cant block pron

[David2074]

Henrika

David2074

I feel sorry for the schools because they can't win,
When they add filters that are strong enough people complain that legitimate stuff gets blocked as well.
When they make the filters less draconian parents complain that not everything is blocked.
When the school tries to control what kids do or access at home parents complain.
When the school doesn't try to control what the kids do or access at home parents complain.

If your seven year old is watching porn at home instead of doing his homework you should probably be rethinking your home management instead of blaming the school.

As for the part about one parent installed filtering software and the school removed it ---
Probably they didn't remove it specifically unless it was preventing the kid from doing his work.
A more likely scenario is that they routinely wipe the units back to a preset default configuration. Young kids tend to screw with settings and such (as if older kids don't). So they probably wipe them every so often.

Why are schools responsible for managing their students' parents' personal home internet networks?

Well, that's my point. They shouldn't be.
But it seems like whether they try to monitor kids outside the school or the don't there are parents who will b***h about it either way.
Personally I don't think young children should be allowed to surf the net unsupervised at home whether or not they are on a school device.

[Henrika]

David2074

Henrika

David2074

I feel sorry for the schools because they can't win,
When they add filters that are strong enough people complain that legitimate stuff gets blocked as well.
When they make the filters less draconian parents complain that not everything is blocked.
When the school tries to control what kids do or access at home parents complain.
When the school doesn't try to control what the kids do or access at home parents complain.

If your seven year old is watching porn at home instead of doing his homework you should probably be rethinking your home management instead of blaming the school.

As for the part about one parent installed filtering software and the school removed it ---
Probably they didn't remove it specifically unless it was preventing the kid from doing his work.
A more likely scenario is that they routinely wipe the units back to a preset default configuration. Young kids tend to screw with settings and such (as if older kids don't). So they probably wipe them every so often.

Why are schools responsible for managing their students' parents' personal home internet networks?

Well, that's my point. They shouldn't be.
But it seems like whether they try to monitor kids outside the school or the don't there are parents who will b***h about it either way.
Personally I don't think young children should be allowed to surf the net unsupervised at home whether or not they are on a school device.

Right but that means the parents have no one to blame but themselves & are blaming others for their shortcomings as parents.

[BerserkLeon]

Henrika

BerserkLeon

Oh no, I spilled coffee on my bookbag!
Now I owe the school like 600$ or w/e their silly price is.

Oh no, I spilled coffee (why the ******** is a 2nd grader drinking coffee...) on my book bag! Now I owe the school like $600 or w/e the silly total price of 5-6 $150 textbooks that got ruined amounts to.

Ok, tea, juice, soda, whatever.
Also books are made of paper which happens to be absorbent.
The one time something like that happened to me it was one book in the bag that got damaged and it was like 50$ to replace/repair it or whatever.

And with the magic of paper you can still read through a decent bit of water damage, not so much with a tablet.
Ed: And I'd be fine with the tablet requirement if the child's family was forced to buy it. Schools shouldn't have to waste money on them if they go home with the child.
Except, this is second grade... and most websites won't allow kids under 13 to sign up because of COPPA.
I kind of agree they shouldn't use the web at all until they're past a certain age... and 13 alright to me. 16 would probably be better, because you can stumble on gore and porn pretty easily on the net.

[David2074]

Henrika

David2074

Henrika

David2074

I feel sorry for the schools because they can't win,
When they add filters that are strong enough people complain that legitimate stuff gets blocked as well.
When they make the filters less draconian parents complain that not everything is blocked.
When the school tries to control what kids do or access at home parents complain.
When the school doesn't try to control what the kids do or access at home parents complain.

If your seven year old is watching porn at home instead of doing his homework you should probably be rethinking your home management instead of blaming the school.

As for the part about one parent installed filtering software and the school removed it ---
Probably they didn't remove it specifically unless it was preventing the kid from doing his work.
A more likely scenario is that they routinely wipe the units back to a preset default configuration. Young kids tend to screw with settings and such (as if older kids don't). So they probably wipe them every so often.

Why are schools responsible for managing their students' parents' personal home internet networks?

Well, that's my point. They shouldn't be.
But it seems like whether they try to monitor kids outside the school or the don't there are parents who will b***h about it either way.
Personally I don't think young children should be allowed to surf the net unsupervised at home whether or not they are on a school device.

Right but that means the parents have no one to blame but themselves & are blaming others for their shortcomings as parents.

Yeah, which sadly seems to happen way too often in America these days.

[Kaiser Khorosho]

HAHA. Silly news reporters. No one DOWNLOADS porn anymore. Its all streaming. Its not 2002, you know?

But seriously, how hard is it to restrict access on a tablet? Parental controls should take like what? 2 minutes? I know there are ways around ANYTHING...hell, at my work they have anything sports related on their server blocked, but only ESPN and such, but I can look at the sports page on a news website and get in just fine. EVERYTHING is full of holes, and if kids THAT age know loopholes already then someone help us.

[fairy-phoenix]

Young King under Heaven

Although the school district policy relies on the parents to prevent their children from accessing inappropriate material, one dad, who claims to work as an IT specialist, told the board that he had installed his own filter onto his child's iPad. However, the teacher deleted software off the iPad the next day.

Oh there's a good idea, delete the filter so that the kid has access to R rated material emotion_facepalm emotion_facepalm emotion_facepalm

[Chibi Halo]

JamesWN

Now let's see what we're up to on the list now:

*Computer with open internet access in the living room, where it's visible from parental seats. Remove connection betwen modem and router at night.
*Software that let's someone see everything being sent to and from kid's phone
*Confiscate school tablets and laptop and only allow them to be used where you can see them.

What else should be added...

✘ Make sure every television in the house is dumb.

✘If said modem has a built in router (Comcast is pushing everyone to have these now) turn it off when you go to bed at night.

✘ If said tablet is an iPad and you have an iPhone turn on Family Sharing so you can see when your kids want to make purchases on their iPad and hope the school (if the school issued it) doesn't remove it on their iPad.

With TVs coming with browsers, Facebook access, Youtube apps, Hulu, Netflix, and other apps that access the net as standard fare now you have to worry that kids will use that to see things they shouldn't. Then you have to turn off that access when you go to bed at night by turning off the moden/router combo and on top of that you want to have the abilty to say yes or no to their app purchases with Family Share (thank you Apple for that).

@ Thread: If you're surprised at the fact that seven year olds have an iPad then you'll be downright having a heart attack when you find out there are two year olds that own (not just use mom or dad's but flat out have their own) an iPad mini. Parents now are so quick to shove the iPad under their kids' noses that they would just rather give each family member their own iPad. It's become now where you go to any restaurant and the kid's head is face down in an iPad instead of the kid with a mound of crayons or colored pencils to occupy their time. It's okay for them to be around a house but parents need to severely limit the amount of time these kids are exposed to the technology because more and more studies are finding that toddlers who are brought up on the iPad, iPod, or other Tablet are more likely to be delayed in their speech as they don't have the interpersonal interactions with family members that help develop speech skills at an early age.

I've already seen how technology has delayed my brother's girls (they talk but it's been far later than our sister's daughters who spoke full on sentences by the time they were one). I can see the upside for technology in schools because they can be used to supplement the books in school at home. My oldest niece was given a CD ROM to take home and use for her at home textbook so she didn't have to lug her math book home every day because it was a large thing. If they're being used for that at home then I can see having them starting in junior high. Heck, my fourteen year old niece at her high school is using a Surface Pro 3 for in class work now, to the point where her school has a professionally done video touting the use of the Surface in the classroom, and my seventeen year old niece at her high school is given free reign of a Chromebook. So schools are pushing towards being more technology centered at an earlier age it seems.

[King Shining Heaven]

FirstBornTriplet

How does a second grader even know such site's exist, let alone hot to access them? When I was that age the only thing I was interested in was games.

If you live a kid unsupervised online, you'd be surprised what they could find. I remember as a kid I followed what I believed were perfectly innocent links and it led to some pictures and stories that were not....child-friendly

[JamesWN]

Chibi Halo

JamesWN

Now let's see what we're up to on the list now:

*Computer with open internet access in the living room, where it's visible from parental seats. Remove connection betwen modem and router at night.
*Software that let's someone see everything being sent to and from kid's phone
*Confiscate school tablets and laptop and only allow them to be used where you can see them.

What else should be added...

✘ Make sure every television in the house is dumb.

✘If said modem has a built in router (Comcast is pushing everyone to have these now) turn it off when you go to bed at night.

✘ If said tablet is an iPad and you have an iPhone turn on Family Sharing so you can see when your kids want to make purchases on their iPad and hope the school (if the school issued it) doesn't remove it on their iPad.

With TVs coming with browsers, Facebook access, Youtube apps, Hulu, Netflix, and other apps that access the net as standard fare now you have to worry that kids will use that to see things they shouldn't. Then you have to turn off that access when you go to bed at night by turning off the moden/router combo and on top of that you want to have the abilty to say yes or no to their app purchases with Family Share (thank you Apple for that).

@ Thread: If you're surprised at the fact that seven year olds have an iPad then you'll be downright having a heart attack when you find out there are two year olds that own (not just use mom or dad's but flat out have their own) an iPad mini. Parents now are so quick to shove the iPad under their kids' noses that they would just rather give each family member their own iPad. It's become now where you go to any restaurant and the kid's head is face down in an iPad instead of the kid with a mound of crayons or colored pencils to occupy their time. It's okay for them to be around a house but parents need to severely limit the amount of time these kids are exposed to the technology because more and more studies are finding that toddlers who are brought up on the iPad, iPod, or other Tablet are more likely to be delayed in their speech as they don't have the interpersonal interactions with family members that help develop speech skills at an early age.

I've already seen how technology has delayed my brother's girls (they talk but it's been far later than our sister's daughters who spoke full on sentences by the time they were one). I can see the upside for technology in schools because they can be used to supplement the books in school at home. My oldest niece was given a CD ROM to take home and use for her at home textbook so she didn't have to lug her math book home every day because it was a large thing. If they're being used for that at home then I can see having them starting in junior high. Heck, my fourteen year old niece at her high school is using a Surface Pro 3 for in class work now, to the point where her school has a professionally done video touting the use of the Surface in the classroom, and my seventeen year old niece at her high school is given free reign of a Chromebook. So schools are pushing towards being more technology centered at an earlier age it seems.

Modem/router combination? Never seen those. Could still probably be turned back on untess you disconnect the power cord and take it with you.

[Seradinea26]

This just goes to show you why the education system has went down hill. These parents need to be told by the school boards that when your child is out of school it is there responsibility as the parents to watch what there children are watching or doing.. You know actually be a parent and do your job !!! People sure want kids but they sure dont want to take care of them or take ownership of what there children do outside of school.

[Fucc Da Ops]

See u give a kid an IPad & see wat they do go on the wrong sites really u should never give a kid any device unless u know wat there up 2 first or the teachers should but Blocks up so kids cant go on certin sites so it is kinda the teachers fault that there aloud 2 do that. evil

[zweet_dreamz]

It's surprising how 7 year olds these days know how and where to download porn.
That's really freaky.
The school can only do so much when the children are on school grounds, but once the kids go home, it's the parent's responsibility to monitor what their child does on their i-pads.
The parents should put restrictions; tell the kids that they're only allowed to use their i-pads when mom and dad are home and for homework purposes only. Once homework is completed, the i-pad is put away.
It's not like your kid can protest, since (s)he isn't paying to 'rent' the device.
Parental filters are nice and all, but since kids are taught these days everything that has to do with computers, apps, coding, etc, it's very easy for them to find a way circumvent these filters.

Personally, I'd rather raise my own child without the need of all this technology (I was raised this way as well) but really hard to do this when schools are forcing kids to learn about technology at the age of four.

[Texadar]

Ratttking

Pessimist

Texadar

TheMiss Barnabas Collins

Quote:

The school district spent over $2.7 million on 5,400 iPads that were assigned to nearly all of its students. Although the school district did not put into place a filter of firewall plan for the iPads for off-ground use, the school district's policy has placed the responsibility on parents to prevent their kids from accessing inappropriate sites on government-owned iPads.

Get the ******** out, they spent all that on IPADS?! They couldn't put the money towards something that could help further education, like say, current, brand spanking new text books, or help teachers with buying them more notebooks, binders, ways to better organize classrooms, better equipment, things of that nature? School issued ipads aren't necessary.

The idea that you think it's better value for money for them to buy physical text books and notebooks over tablets is really really odd.

Yep, let's go back to making our children carry home suitcases of books like the did in my day! Let's spend money on updating all our textbooks every few years over and over and over again! Everyone knows textbooks are cheap as hell.

What's the average lifespan of an iPad owned by a young child? PCPro says it typically lasts 2 years for an adult. How long will a reading text that can last decades physically remain up-to-date? Pretty sure the language has not changed so much as to be unrecognizable since I was in school. How about arithmetic, have they added something new? Now, history changes with fashions of the time, so it's quite possible that what they learn now about, say, the Civil War will not be what they are being taught in 10 years in HS but I see no cure for constantly rewriting the past.

That life span is based on Software (likely games) made for 3rd gen iPad not working as well on a first gen i-pad (what is not s**t

My brother's 1st gen iPhone still works Sure it don't run games made for iPhone 6 but it runs everything what a 1st gen iphone was built to run fine.

school curriculum changes

school curriculum is different between the years