Kids caught watching porn on school I-Pads

[David2074]

I feel sorry for the schools because they can't win,
When they add filters that are strong enough people complain that legitimate stuff gets blocked as well.
When they make the filters less draconian parents complain that not everything is blocked.
When the school tries to control what kids do or access at home parents complain.
When the school doesn't try to control what the kids do or access at home parents complain.

If your seven year old is watching porn at home instead of doing his homework you should probably be rethinking your home management instead of blaming the school.

As for the part about one parent installed filtering software and the school removed it ---
Probably they didn't remove it specifically unless it was preventing the kid from doing his work.
A more likely scenario is that they routinely wipe the units back to a preset default configuration. Young kids tend to screw with settings and such (as if older kids don't). So they probably wipe them every so often.

[Unconditional Heart]

David2074

I feel sorry for the schools because they can't win,
When they add filters that are strong enough people complain that legitimate stuff gets blocked as well.
When they make the filters less draconian parents complain that not everything is blocked.
When the school tries to control what kids do or access at home parents complain.
When the school doesn't try to control what the kids do or access at home parents complain.

If your seven year old is watching porn at home instead of doing his homework you should probably be rethinking your home management instead of blaming the school.

As for the part about one parent installed filtering software and the school removed it ---
Probably they didn't remove it specifically unless it was preventing the kid from doing his work.
A more likely scenario is that they routinely wipe the units back to a preset default configuration. Young kids tend to screw with settings and such (as if older kids don't). So they probably wipe them every so often.

I think it determines the kind of management the schools are willing to do.
The school in my area has blocked, but teachers are more than welcome to approach the it department to get that particular site unblocked.
I know most tend to be ran by one man or two, and I know ours has at least three.

[JamesWN]

Now let's see what we're up to on the list now:

*Computer with open internet access in the living room, where it's visible from parental seats. Remove connection betwen modem and router at night.
*Software that let's someone see everything being sent to and from kid's phone
*Confiscate school tablets and laptop and only allow them to be used where you can see them.

What else should be added...

[David2074]

Unconditional Heart

David2074

I feel sorry for the schools because they can't win,
When they add filters that are strong enough people complain that legitimate stuff gets blocked as well.
When they make the filters less draconian parents complain that not everything is blocked.
When the school tries to control what kids do or access at home parents complain.
When the school doesn't try to control what the kids do or access at home parents complain.

If your seven year old is watching porn at home instead of doing his homework you should probably be rethinking your home management instead of blaming the school.

As for the part about one parent installed filtering software and the school removed it ---
Probably they didn't remove it specifically unless it was preventing the kid from doing his work.
A more likely scenario is that they routinely wipe the units back to a preset default configuration. Young kids tend to screw with settings and such (as if older kids don't). So they probably wipe them every so often.

I think it determines the kind of management the schools are willing to do.
The school in my area has blocked, but teachers are more than welcome to approach the it department to get that particular site unblocked.
I know most tend to be ran by one man or two, and I know ours has at least three.

I realize that administrators have the ability to selectively bypass individual sites or words / place them on the white list. But some software / some administrators are overzealous.
For example, I've read articles where high school students could not do some of their homework because the system blocked legitimate words like breast (breast cancer) and so on.

But that aside, I hold the parents responsible if they are giving their kids internet access at home and not staying on top of what they are doing on the internet.

[Unconditional Heart]

David2074

Unconditional Heart

David2074

I feel sorry for the schools because they can't win,
When they add filters that are strong enough people complain that legitimate stuff gets blocked as well.
When they make the filters less draconian parents complain that not everything is blocked.
When the school tries to control what kids do or access at home parents complain.
When the school doesn't try to control what the kids do or access at home parents complain.

If your seven year old is watching porn at home instead of doing his homework you should probably be rethinking your home management instead of blaming the school.

As for the part about one parent installed filtering software and the school removed it ---
Probably they didn't remove it specifically unless it was preventing the kid from doing his work.
A more likely scenario is that they routinely wipe the units back to a preset default configuration. Young kids tend to screw with settings and such (as if older kids don't). So they probably wipe them every so often.

I think it determines the kind of management the schools are willing to do.
The school in my area has blocked, but teachers are more than welcome to approach the it department to get that particular site unblocked.
I know most tend to be ran by one man or two, and I know ours has at least three.

I realize that administrators have the ability to selectively bypass individual sites or words / place them on the white list. But some software / some administrators are overzealous.
For example, I've read articles where high school students could not do some of their homework because the system blocked legitimate words like breast (breast cancer) and so on.

But that aside, I hold the parents responsible if they are giving their kids internet access at home and not staying on top of what they are doing on the internet.

Like I said I it determines the school and how willing they are to manage everything. I think I was told that they whitelist sites that students are legitemently trying to get to.

[FirstBornTripletZack]

How does a second grader even know such site's exist, let alone hot to access them? When I was that age the only thing I was interested in was games.

[Texadar]

TheMiss Barnabas Collins

Quote:

The school district spent over $2.7 million on 5,400 iPads that were assigned to nearly all of its students. Although the school district did not put into place a filter of firewall plan for the iPads for off-ground use, the school district's policy has placed the responsibility on parents to prevent their kids from accessing inappropriate sites on government-owned iPads.

Get the ******** out, they spent all that on IPADS?! They couldn't put the money towards something that could help further education, like say, current, brand spanking new text books, or help teachers with buying them more notebooks, binders, ways to better organize classrooms, better equipment, things of that nature? School issued ipads aren't necessary.

The idea that you think it's better value for money for them to buy physical text books and notebooks over tablets is really really odd.

[BerserkLeon]

Oh no, I spilled coffee on my bookbag!
Now I owe the school like 600$ or w/e their silly price is.

[Alason]

neutral I muss have been super sheltered, I never even know what porn was when I was in second grade.

[David2074]

FirstBornTriplet

How does a second grader even know such site's exist, let alone hot to access them? When I was that age the only thing I was interested in was games.

Most 7 year olds know what boobies are.
Keep in mind that with current search engines (Google etc) they do not have to know sophisticated search terms to stumble upon porn sites.
They could simply type in naked or breast or booby or really virtually anything that is a word for a body part or nudity and some of the hits will be porn sites.

Most 7 year olds do not have sophisticated knowledge about sexual intercourse or weird fetishes but most of them are old enough to have at least mild curiosity about the human body and the opposite sex. There is a decent chance they didn't start out specifically looking for a "porn site" but if Johnny stumbled upon one there is a decent chance he would tell Bobby, "Hey, look what I found!"

Also keep in mind that some people call just about anything porn these days.
Like that recent Sports Illustrated swimsuit cover people were calling porn.
There is a decent chance they did find "real" porn but just about anything would have some parents up in arms.

[Pessimist]

Texadar

TheMiss Barnabas Collins

Quote:

The school district spent over $2.7 million on 5,400 iPads that were assigned to nearly all of its students. Although the school district did not put into place a filter of firewall plan for the iPads for off-ground use, the school district's policy has placed the responsibility on parents to prevent their kids from accessing inappropriate sites on government-owned iPads.

Get the ******** out, they spent all that on IPADS?! They couldn't put the money towards something that could help further education, like say, current, brand spanking new text books, or help teachers with buying them more notebooks, binders, ways to better organize classrooms, better equipment, things of that nature? School issued ipads aren't necessary.

The idea that you think it's better value for money for them to buy physical text books and notebooks over tablets is really really odd.

Yep, let's go back to making our children carry home suitcases of books like the did in my day! Let's spend money on updating all our textbooks every few years over and over and over again! Everyone knows textbooks are cheap as hell.

[Henrika]

So basically whats happening here, is a whole bunch of parents are pissed that they don't understand how computers work or how to set up home internet to block this kinds of stuff? And they're blaming their children's schools for their own inability to manage their personal-home internet? How dumb can people get?

[Henrika]

David2074

I feel sorry for the schools because they can't win,
When they add filters that are strong enough people complain that legitimate stuff gets blocked as well.
When they make the filters less draconian parents complain that not everything is blocked.
When the school tries to control what kids do or access at home parents complain.
When the school doesn't try to control what the kids do or access at home parents complain.

If your seven year old is watching porn at home instead of doing his homework you should probably be rethinking your home management instead of blaming the school.

As for the part about one parent installed filtering software and the school removed it ---
Probably they didn't remove it specifically unless it was preventing the kid from doing his work.
A more likely scenario is that they routinely wipe the units back to a preset default configuration. Young kids tend to screw with settings and such (as if older kids don't). So they probably wipe them every so often.

Why are schools responsible for managing their students' parents' personal home internet networks?

[Ratttking]

Pessimist

Texadar

TheMiss Barnabas Collins

Quote:

The school district spent over $2.7 million on 5,400 iPads that were assigned to nearly all of its students. Although the school district did not put into place a filter of firewall plan for the iPads for off-ground use, the school district's policy has placed the responsibility on parents to prevent their kids from accessing inappropriate sites on government-owned iPads.

Get the ******** out, they spent all that on IPADS?! They couldn't put the money towards something that could help further education, like say, current, brand spanking new text books, or help teachers with buying them more notebooks, binders, ways to better organize classrooms, better equipment, things of that nature? School issued ipads aren't necessary.

The idea that you think it's better value for money for them to buy physical text books and notebooks over tablets is really really odd.

Yep, let's go back to making our children carry home suitcases of books like the did in my day! Let's spend money on updating all our textbooks every few years over and over and over again! Everyone knows textbooks are cheap as hell.

What's the average lifespan of an iPad owned by a young child? PCPro says it typically lasts 2 years for an adult. How long will a reading text that can last decades physically remain up-to-date? Pretty sure the language has not changed so much as to be unrecognizable since I was in school. How about arithmetic, have they added something new? Now, history changes with fashions of the time, so it's quite possible that what they learn now about, say, the Civil War will not be what they are being taught in 10 years in HS but I see no cure for constantly rewriting the past.