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10:13pmReignOfAthena:
What? NO dont make me a ginger!
10:13pmZephyr_infinity:
deal with it
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10:14pmReignOfAthena:
No, you cant just snatch away my soul through the computer! Be happy with your current soul collection! SHEESH PHIL
10:16pmZephyr_infinity:
i had to rent them all out tho, josh keeps breaking them and i can too steal a soul through the computer, have yo never seen those handy sight s that do it for you?
JEEEEZZ MADDIE
10:20pmReignOfAthena:
No. I refuse. Your argument is invalid.
10:21pmZephyr_infinity:
i deny your reality and substitute my own.
10:32pmReignOfAthena:
That's nice, but your reality is your own. You cannot just throw me into it.
10:32pmZephyr_infinity:
sure i can jsut did
10:33pmReignOfAthena:
I don't see it.
10:33pmZephyr_infinity:
its not something you see actualy
10:33pmReignOfAthena:
It's actually not something you can force me into.
10:33pmZephyr_infinity:
but it is always watching, searching, waiting
lol
10:34pmReignOfAthena:
I hold firm in my own reality in which my soul is MY OWN. I'm not soulless.
10:35pm
And you def cannot take it through technology. That just kills a soul, dontcha know.
10:36pmZephyr_infinity:
everyone is souless, the soul is a pigment of the human mind an invention that holds dear the thoughts and emotions of someone who has passed is both illogical and pointless, that electrical impulses in the brain live on through an insubstantial non existent entity...
and not true
the brain is a machine
10:37pmReignOfAthena:
But having a soul means you are not just a machine.
10:37pmZephyr_infinity:
also an peice of the human imagination
we could build a machine that perfectly replicates the human mind in every detail.
10:38pm
it kan think fele love hate
does that mean it is souless?
10:38pmReignOfAthena:
But can it create?
Creativity it was makes humans different.
10:38pmZephyr_infinity:
yes it has a prefect AI
it is esentialy the same as a human mind
the key duifferece being it is made of metal
10:39pmReignOfAthena:
There is always something that a human can do that a machine cannot.
10:39pmZephyr_infinity:
and do we not make machines that create.
not always true
cna a human lift 100000 punds?
but a machine can
10:39pmReignOfAthena:
Machines that do that exist to only assist humans.
10:40pmZephyr_infinity:
eventually machines will be made better thna humans, many of the already are
10:40pmReignOfAthena:
But humans have empathy and religion and yadayada.
10:41pmZephyr_infinity:
all of which are also created by the human mind
10:41pmReignOfAthena:
Yes...
10:41pmZephyr_infinity:
and there fore have no real substantila existence upon reality
10:42pmReignOfAthena:
But they help to fill in gaps on the unknown, in the case of religion.
10:42pmZephyr_infinity:
it is easier to assume everything does not exist and prove what does to yourself then your world is just that your world everyone else is bond by the thoughts of their parents.
if you had never been told ore heard of empaty or religion whould they exist to you?
10:43pm
therefore
logic
10:43pmReignOfAthena:
Not by those names, but I think that at least empathy would.
10:44pm
Im certainly not saying I dont like logic, though.
10:44pmZephyr_infinity:
oh?if no one had ever imposed those ideas upon you they would still exist?
if they had never bene thought up they whould stil lexist?
10:44pmReignOfAthena:
They havent necessarily been thought up. It's part of emotions.
10:45pmZephyr_infinity:
not always true
a name invented to clasify something an ideal not something that may or may not exist
10:46pmReignOfAthena:
May or may not being the key there. A rose by any other name though, right? Just because it hasnt been classified does not mean that it doesnt exist.
10:48pmZephyr_infinity:
but if it doesn't exist but was still classified? to give name to a concept, that was the widely accepted as fact. that is what makes it real that everyone believes it is. if everyone in the world belied the sun was green would that make it so?
yes certainly
10:49pm
the human mind is based on the thoughts of all the other minds that came before it
so if it was widely beleived that something was true then it is true
no matter how false it is
10:50pmReignOfAthena:
But calling the sun green would not make it what we see as green, it would just be putting it under a new name. It would still be yellow. BASICALLY logic is good and useful and logical, but why live without imagination and creativity and a SOUL? That would be like living out one half of a life. MODERATION!
10:51pmZephyr_infinity:
but why live out more than half a life, if that extra bit is false is all im saying.
10:53pm
and yes true as well but if it was so and not just reclassifying the color names but everyone truly believed the sun was s green as the grass it would be because the human mind has enough prossesing power to convince itself that what it sees is false.
10:55pmReignOfAthena:
But even if that extra bit of life is false, it makes life more enjoyable. Not everything must be cold hard fact, because then it is just that: cold.
10:56pmZephyr_infinity:
but it is true you are not living a delusion meaning what you accomplish with that extra bit is meaningful and not just a waste of time.
lol random argument.
10:57pmReignOfAthena:
Well, I don't argue with just anyone, but when I do, it has to be with you about SOULS.