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Ryu_Kaze

PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 10:14 am


This car makes me drool

TOMMY KAIRA ZZII

Cars that weigh only 1500 lbs,Mid engine AWD. can get very impressive performance numbers from a small inline 4 but Tommy Kaira ups the fun with 2 more cylinders and a twin-turbo. The result is a 550 hp monster capable of 0-60mph in 3.3 seconds and a top speed of 210MPH.

an orgasm on wheels

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like RUF, its made from a tuner/modifier company TOMMY
PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 2:29 pm


What car do they use to make those?

Masticatius


Ryu_Kaze

PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 3:58 pm


i think the ZZ and ZZII are built by Tommy. I dont think the chassis was modded from another car, but what i DO know is the engine is a Modified SR20DET
PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 5:03 pm


Ah, that's what I thought.

Masticatius


kAiTo tEh bLaZiN aSiAn

PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 8:02 am


The Tommykaira ZZ is an aluminium-spaceframe midship sports car. it measured at approximately 700kilograms with its FRP body shell, and had an SR20 engine that was fed by FCR high-performance Carburetors rather than fuel injected.

now, the ZZ-II was supposed to be the successor to the ZZ and has the RB26DETT engine and the AWD system from the Nissan Skyline GT-R. the enigne has been bored out to 2.7 rather than 2.6 liters, and as you said, it's very impressive.

The problem is that this car never actually made it to mass production. The Nissan RB26 engine was killed off after the first few prototypes made it off the production lines, and Tommykaira moved on to become ASL, Autobacs Sportscar Labs. ASL is producing the "Garaiya", another lightweight sportscar that's currently competing in the Super GT (JGTC) GT300 class.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 9:18 am


kAiTo tEh bLaZiN aSiAn
The Tommykaira ZZ is an aluminium-spaceframe midship sports car. it measured at approximately 700kilograms with its FRP body shell, and had an SR20 engine that was fed by FCR high-performance Carburetors rather than fuel injected.

now, the ZZ-II was supposed to be the successor to the ZZ and has the RB26DETT engine and the AWD system from the Nissan Skyline GT-R. the enigne has been bored out to 2.7 rather than 2.6 liters, and as you said, it's very impressive.

The problem is that this car never actually made it to mass production. The Nissan RB26 engine was killed off after the first few prototypes made it off the production lines, and Tommykaira moved on to become ASL, Autobacs Sportscar Labs. ASL is producing the "Garaiya", another lightweight sportscar that's currently competing in the Super GT (JGTC) GT300 class.


I don't think it's completely true. There is a plentiful amount of RB motors and wrecked GT-R's but I think the problem is cost. Where did you get you info?

Never knew that Tommy was bought out by S.A. though, funny that they still have a web site.

gman15975


Ryu_Kaze

PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 3:38 pm


gman15975
kAiTo tEh bLaZiN aSiAn
The Tommykaira ZZ is an aluminium-spaceframe midship sports car. it measured at approximately 700kilograms with its FRP body shell, and had an SR20 engine that was fed by FCR high-performance Carburetors rather than fuel injected.

now, the ZZ-II was supposed to be the successor to the ZZ and has the RB26DETT engine and the AWD system from the Nissan Skyline GT-R. the enigne has been bored out to 2.7 rather than 2.6 liters, and as you said, it's very impressive.

The problem is that this car never actually made it to mass production. The Nissan RB26 engine was killed off after the first few prototypes made it off the production lines, and Tommykaira moved on to become ASL, Autobacs Sportscar Labs. ASL is producing the "Garaiya", another lightweight sportscar that's currently competing in the Super GT (JGTC) GT300 class.


I don't think it's completely true. There is a plentiful amount of RB motors and wrecked GT-R's but I think the problem is cost. Where did you get you info?

Never knew that Tommy was bought out by S.A. though, funny that they still have a web site.
yea,cuz tommy mainly make body kits and tunes cars
PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 8:40 pm


The problem is not the cost, it's the simple fact that the RB26 is not available anymore as a new engine. Since the ZZ-II is not a "Tuned" car, the Japanese transport department would never allow a "New" car with a used engine. Tommykaira is an established auto builder as the Japanese Transport boffins see it, and therefore must comply with Japanese AUto maker rules. No new car after 2002 can use the RB26, 2JZ, 13B, or pretty much every other powerful turbocharged engine that was used throughout the 90's as a source of power for Japanese high-tuned cars, due to emissions regulations put into effect in that year.

kAiTo tEh bLaZiN aSiAn


gman15975

PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 9:39 am


kAiTo tEh bLaZiN aSiAn
The problem is not the cost, it's the simple fact that the RB26 is not available anymore as a new engine. Since the ZZ-II is not a "Tuned" car, the Japanese transport department would never allow a "New" car with a used engine. Tommykaira is an established auto builder as the Japanese Transport boffins see it, and therefore must comply with Japanese AUto maker rules. No new car after 2002 can use the RB26, 2JZ, 13B, or pretty much every other powerful turbocharged engine that was used throughout the 90's as a source of power for Japanese high-tuned cars, due to emissions regulations put into effect in that year.


Oh yeah, now that I remember it, that is why the Supra, GT-R, and RX-7 were put out of production, because it was to expensive to develop a more eco friendly engine for their aging platforms.

But with that said, could ASL just use a TT VQ35 engine from the Nissan lineup?
PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 9:37 pm


gman15975
kAiTo tEh bLaZiN aSiAn
The problem is not the cost, it's the simple fact that the RB26 is not available anymore as a new engine. Since the ZZ-II is not a "Tuned" car, the Japanese transport department would never allow a "New" car with a used engine. Tommykaira is an established auto builder as the Japanese Transport boffins see it, and therefore must comply with Japanese AUto maker rules. No new car after 2002 can use the RB26, 2JZ, 13B, or pretty much every other powerful turbocharged engine that was used throughout the 90's as a source of power for Japanese high-tuned cars, due to emissions regulations put into effect in that year.


Oh yeah, now that I remember it, that is why the Supra, GT-R, and RX-7 were put out of production, because it was to expensive to develop a more eco friendly engine for their aging platforms.

But with that said, could ASL just use a TT VQ35 engine from the Nissan lineup?

Unlike the LEGENDARY RB26DETT unit, the VQ35DE engine is not a bespoke engine for sports cars. It's even been used by the French, for christ's sake. That, it has to be said, isn't the important part. What IS important is that it simply isn't quite as tough as the RB block. Truth, it did help Nissan regain its place as a JGTC Champion in 2003 and 2004, but the ZZII chassis was designed entirely to take a straight in-line setup motor, and converting it for a V6 engine would've cost more than Tommykaira could handle. That's what I would see as the main reason why the VQ swap wouldn't have worked on a mass-production basis. I mean, if it was a one-off, they could've gone right ahead.

kAiTo tEh bLaZiN aSiAn


Masticatius

PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 5:55 pm


Sweet, someone else who knows their s**t.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 9:01 pm


kAiTo tEh bLaZiN aSiAn
gman15975
kAiTo tEh bLaZiN aSiAn
The problem is not the cost, it's the simple fact that the RB26 is not available anymore as a new engine. Since the ZZ-II is not a "Tuned" car, the Japanese transport department would never allow a "New" car with a used engine. Tommykaira is an established auto builder as the Japanese Transport boffins see it, and therefore must comply with Japanese AUto maker rules. No new car after 2002 can use the RB26, 2JZ, 13B, or pretty much every other powerful turbocharged engine that was used throughout the 90's as a source of power for Japanese high-tuned cars, due to emissions regulations put into effect in that year.


Oh yeah, now that I remember it, that is why the Supra, GT-R, and RX-7 were put out of production, because it was to expensive to develop a more eco friendly engine for their aging platforms.

But with that said, could ASL just use a TT VQ35 engine from the Nissan lineup?

Unlike the LEGENDARY RB26DETT unit, the VQ35DE engine is not a bespoke engine for sports cars. It's even been used by the French, for christ's sake. That, it has to be said, isn't the important part. What IS important is that it simply isn't quite as tough as the RB block. Truth, it did help Nissan regain its place as a JGTC Champion in 2003 and 2004, but the ZZII chassis was designed entirely to take a straight in-line setup motor, and converting it for a V6 engine would've cost more than Tommykaira could handle. That's what I would see as the main reason why the VQ swap wouldn't have worked on a mass-production basis. I mean, if it was a one-off, they could've gone right ahead.


Does that mean that this car will forever remain a prototype? Maybe they'll be able to convert it to use the new GT-R's engine, because just to have this car end in this way doesn't seem right, nor like ASL to give up on a project.

gman15975


Ryu_Kaze

PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 6:22 pm


gman15975
kAiTo tEh bLaZiN aSiAn
gman15975
kAiTo tEh bLaZiN aSiAn
The problem is not the cost, it's the simple fact that the RB26 is not available anymore as a new engine. Since the ZZ-II is not a "Tuned" car, the Japanese transport department would never allow a "New" car with a used engine. Tommykaira is an established auto builder as the Japanese Transport boffins see it, and therefore must comply with Japanese AUto maker rules. No new car after 2002 can use the RB26, 2JZ, 13B, or pretty much every other powerful turbocharged engine that was used throughout the 90's as a source of power for Japanese high-tuned cars, due to emissions regulations put into effect in that year.


Oh yeah, now that I remember it, that is why the Supra, GT-R, and RX-7 were put out of production, because it was to expensive to develop a more eco friendly engine for their aging platforms.

But with that said, could ASL just use a TT VQ35 engine from the Nissan lineup?

Unlike the LEGENDARY RB26DETT unit, the VQ35DE engine is not a bespoke engine for sports cars. It's even been used by the French, for christ's sake. That, it has to be said, isn't the important part. What IS important is that it simply isn't quite as tough as the RB block. Truth, it did help Nissan regain its place as a JGTC Champion in 2003 and 2004, but the ZZII chassis was designed entirely to take a straight in-line setup motor, and converting it for a V6 engine would've cost more than Tommykaira could handle. That's what I would see as the main reason why the VQ swap wouldn't have worked on a mass-production basis. I mean, if it was a one-off, they could've gone right ahead.


Does that mean that this car will forever remain a prototype? Maybe they'll be able to convert it to use the new GT-R's engine, because just to have this car end in this way doesn't seem right, nor like ASL to give up on a project.
yea, seeing the car ended the way it did brought me to tears, i think only a few were made like 5-10 i think.
PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 4:38 am


gman15975
kAiTo tEh bLaZiN aSiAn
gman15975
kAiTo tEh bLaZiN aSiAn
The problem is not the cost, it's the simple fact that the RB26 is not available anymore as a new engine. Since the ZZ-II is not a "Tuned" car, the Japanese transport department would never allow a "New" car with a used engine. Tommykaira is an established auto builder as the Japanese Transport boffins see it, and therefore must comply with Japanese AUto maker rules. No new car after 2002 can use the RB26, 2JZ, 13B, or pretty much every other powerful turbocharged engine that was used throughout the 90's as a source of power for Japanese high-tuned cars, due to emissions regulations put into effect in that year.


Oh yeah, now that I remember it, that is why the Supra, GT-R, and RX-7 were put out of production, because it was to expensive to develop a more eco friendly engine for their aging platforms.

But with that said, could ASL just use a TT VQ35 engine from the Nissan lineup?

Unlike the LEGENDARY RB26DETT unit, the VQ35DE engine is not a bespoke engine for sports cars. It's even been used by the French, for christ's sake. That, it has to be said, isn't the important part. What IS important is that it simply isn't quite as tough as the RB block. Truth, it did help Nissan regain its place as a JGTC Champion in 2003 and 2004, but the ZZII chassis was designed entirely to take a straight in-line setup motor, and converting it for a V6 engine would've cost more than Tommykaira could handle. That's what I would see as the main reason why the VQ swap wouldn't have worked on a mass-production basis. I mean, if it was a one-off, they could've gone right ahead.


Does that mean that this car will forever remain a prototype? Maybe they'll be able to convert it to use the new GT-R's engine, because just to have this car end in this way doesn't seem right, nor like ASL to give up on a project.

If they're ever going to use a V6 engine in a mid-engined lightweight sports car with 4WD, they're far better off starting with a completely new chassis and a completely new car. The center of gravity can be set lower with a V-arrangement engine, so why waste that opportunity to lower that engine and make it the best it can be by using an outdated layout?

don't get me wrong, Straight-six and Rotary are the only two engine layouts that I truely approve of.

kAiTo tEh bLaZiN aSiAn


krazer427

PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 9:53 am


that is a cool car!
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