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I am Holey

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:09 pm


PETA kills animals en masse while raking in money for them

Then there’s the revelation by the Center for Consumer Freedom that People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) kills thousands of animals every year at its Norfolk, Virginia headquarters. The Center notes that, between 1998 and 2003, PETA put to death more than 10,000 dogs, cats, and other creatures they dub “companion animals” and, get this, raked in nearly $29 million in 2004 from people who thought PETA wouldn’t ever harm any animal. In the years noted, PETA killed 78.3% of the animals they received.

PETA has also waged war against laboratories that use animals for research purposes, using the most corrupt forms of propaganda to target Covance of Vienna, Virginia. According to the FBI, PETA has donated thousands of dollars an animal rights groups like the Animal Liberation Front that the FBI considers to be no less terrorist than Islamic fundamentalists. PETA are the same people who don’t want you to wear real fur and who spend huge bucks on campaigns to scare little children who might be served chicken in the school cafeteria or go fishing with dad. PETA wants all of us to become vegetarians. Hypocrites? The worst!


I like how they try to help, but really they kill so many animals its digusting.
A simple chart of The animals peta receives/keeps/kills.User Image
PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:30 pm



Peta is out there.

That is one reason
I do not support them
at all.

They force their opinions
onto others who never
asked for it, they think
having a pet is a bad
thing.

Plus, as you put the worst
of it all they end up
killing more animals
then by truly helping
them.

The only thing
I support with Peta
is they want to help
out animals but I think
they get that idea
and it just gets
lost in translation
somewere along
the way.

Maxrb2321


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 10:21 am


Maxrb2321

Peta is out there.

That is one reason
I do not support them
at all.

They force their opinions
onto others who never
asked for it, they think
having a pet is a bad
thing.

Plus, as you put the worst
of it all they end up
killing more animals
then by truly helping
them.

The only thing
I support with Peta
is they want to help
out animals but I think
they get that idea
and it just gets
lost in translation
somewere along
the way.
i like you. Some people like peta in this guild and im like "WTF?" because if they are vegetarian and hate KFC and crap, than they shouldnt like PETA because they kill animals too.
PostPosted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 11:35 am


Will you find me a blue rose?

I agree. I'm not a fan of PETA. They're very hypocritical, and they say some horrible things such as.

"Six million Jews died in concentration camps, but six billion broiler chickens will die this year in slaughterhouses."

I think humans are a little more important than chickens. Do get me wrong I love animals and I'm going to dedicate my life to saving them, but thats not something you can comare to the Holocaust.

Or that they attack people who have different beliefs.

They had issues with Jimmy Carter fishing and hes not even killing the fish. Hes setting them free. And just a ton of other things that annoy me.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 1:25 pm


Before I knew that PETA euthanased thousands of animals I have to say I was a massive supporter, pretty much when i turned vegetarian actually, I suppose I was struggling with mhy parents opinions and I needed to be able to say ... THESE PEOPLE AGREE WITH ME SO THERE ... kind of thing. I do think it's wrong that they intimidate children, that's wrong no one should have vegetarianism forced upon them, however they do do some good work and i think the "ink not mink" and similar poster campaigns have been quite succesful, matybe they should go down that line more. Whats scary is gullible teen converts, like me, will be drawn in straight away and not look at the whole picture.
PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 2:05 pm


I think that yeah they do force people sometimes to see their beliefs or whatever it is they want to get across, but they also do a bit of good when they show how some animals die e.g. taking fur it makes people think about what others are doing. So in that respect it is both good and bad...I mean come on have any of you seen any perfect societies? Not that I'm saying I aprove of all their methods, I don't.

And as for all the animals they are killing...perhaps a percentage of that is neccessary, putting animals to sleep because otherwise they would be in pain because of their conditions. But I can't say for sure because I'm not there to see what is going on, so maybe they have their own reasons for all the deaths.

Littlemiss1753


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 7:53 pm


Littlemiss1753
I think that yeah they do force people sometimes to see their beliefs or whatever it is they want to get across, but they also do a bit of good when they show how some animals die e.g. taking fur it makes people think about what others are doing. So in that respect it is both good and bad...I mean come on have any of you seen any perfect societies? Not that I'm saying I aprove of all their methods, I don't.

And as for all the animals they are killing...perhaps a percentage of that is neccessary, putting animals to sleep because otherwise they would be in pain because of their conditions. But I can't say for sure because I'm not there to see what is going on, so maybe they have their own reasons for all the deaths.
yea i don't like peta. i still watch the vids and s**t. for TheOriginalNonEmo, if people ask em why i am veg or smothing, i would prolly show them like peta vids even thhough i absolutly hate them...
PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 9:48 am


JackMorris
Littlemiss1753

And as for all the animals they are killing...perhaps a percentage of that is neccessary, putting animals to sleep because otherwise they would be in pain because of their conditions. But I can't say for sure because I'm not there to see what is going on, so maybe they have their own reasons for all the deaths.
yea i don't like peta. i still watch the vids and s**t. for TheOriginalNonEmo, if people ask em why i am veg or smothing, i would prolly show them like peta vids even thhough i absolutly hate them...


Littlemiss1753, I agree with you that it's right to put an Animal to sleep if it would suffer unduly otherwise ( I support the leaglisation of euthanasia for people too), but surely not all of the animals they kill are in undue distress.

JackMorris, I agree with you about the videos, some of them are quite shocking and a few people in my english class converted after i showed the "meet your meat" video in class, what i mean was, for people who turn vegetarian without the support of their friends or family, PETA can have a certain allure, that if PETA is the only source you have you'll have a blinkered view of their own activities.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 9:50 pm


    First of all, the Center for Consumer Freedom is a front group for the tobacco, restaurant, and alcohol industries. They run media campaigns opposing the efforts of scientists, environmentalists, doctors, health care enforcers, anti-rights activists, and even groups like Mothers Against Drunk Driving.

    They've fought against the organic food movement.
    They've lobbied for lowering the legal blood alcohol limit for drunk driving.
    And against smoke-free laws.

    Animal shelters are over flooded due to peoples' failure be responsible companions to their animals; to spay and neuter them. Most shelters euthanize animals; and while it's extremely sad, unfortunate, and upsetting - the truth is there's not enough room in shelters.

    The Animal Liberation Front is a peaceful organization.
    They don't take lives; they destroy equipment and buildings in order to hurt the companies torturing animals. They free the animals from the hell of animal testing, the meat industry, the egg industry, and the dairy industry.

    Why is not wanting you to wear real fur a bad thing?
    Animals were murdered for it; how can we advocate animal rights while saying it's okay to kill animals in the name of fashion?

    I do think everybody should be vegetarian, even vegan. If somebody you knew was beating their dogs, would you not be appalled, tell them to stop, fight against it? What the animals face in the meat, egg, and dairy industries is far worse - and what's more frightening is it's socially acceptable.

    And I'm the crazy one because I believe all life is valuable; all creatures deserve to live a life free of suffering, pain, torture, and senseless murder.




PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 1:39 pm


v e g a n l i c i o u s
    First of all, the Center for Consumer Freedom is a front group for the tobacco, restaurant, and alcohol industries. They run media campaigns opposing the efforts of scientists, environmentalists, doctors, health care enforcers, anti-rights activists, and even groups like Mothers Against Drunk Driving.

    They've fought against the organic food movement.
    They've lobbied for lowering the legal blood alcohol limit for drunk driving.
    And against smoke-free laws.

    Animal shelters are over flooded due to peoples' failure be responsible companions to their animals; to spay and neuter them. Most shelters euthanize animals; and while it's extremely sad, unfortunate, and upsetting - the truth is there's not enough room in shelters.

    The Animal Liberation Front is a peaceful organization.
    They don't take lives; they destroy equipment and buildings in order to hurt the companies torturing animals. They free the animals from the hell of animal testing, the meat industry, the egg industry, and the dairy industry.

    Why is not wanting you to wear real fur a bad thing?
    Animals were murdered for it; how can we advocate animal rights while saying it's okay to kill animals in the name of fashion?

    I do think everybody should be vegetarian, even vegan. If somebody you knew was beating their dogs, would you not be appalled, tell them to stop, fight against it? What the animals face in the meat, egg, and dairy industries is far worse - and what's more frightening is it's socially acceptable.

    And I'm the crazy one because I believe all life is valuable; all creatures deserve to live a life free of suffering, pain, torture, and senseless murder.




i agree but people are like "we are supposedd to eat meat so w/e!" but i am not goiong to force them to go veg. that is their choice

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 6:57 pm


JackMorris
According to the FBI, PETA has donated thousands of dollars an animal rights groups like the Animal Liberation Front that the FBI considers to be no less terrorist than Islamic fundamentalists.


The FBI, once upon a time, considered Martin Luther King to be a terrorist.

The ALF is "officially" non-violent. They do not harm people (or any other animals.) They intimidate, and they prevent slaughter, but they do not kill people.

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PETA are the same people who don’t want you to wear real fur and who spend huge bucks on campaigns to scare little children who might be served chicken in the school cafeteria or go fishing with dad. PETA wants all of us to become vegetarians.


I see nothing wrong with this whatsoever. I find it appalling that you do.
PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:43 pm


Maxrb2321

Peta is out there.

That is one reason
I do not support them
at all.

They force their opinions
onto others who never
asked for it, they think
having a pet is a bad
thing.

Plus, as you put the worst
of it all they end up
killing more animals
then by truly helping
them.

The only thing
I support with Peta
is they want to help
out animals but I think
they get that idea
and it just gets
lost in translation
somewere along
the way.
Wow, I never knew how much of a hypocrite PETA is. I'm just wondering, why do they kill the animals they get? Or is there any other reason besides cruelty? Now, forcing their opinions on those who never asked for it, well of course meat eaters aren't going to ask for it. They're too absorbed in their own convenience and too consumed by their apathy that there is NO other way but to at least be somewhat forceful. I'm not saying punch someone on sight for eating a burger, but what I am saying is to not be shy about your diet, and if anyone asks you anything, tell em. If you get into any arguments, don't be the one to back down. That's all I'm saying. I don't know, maybe I'm too extreme, but if all else fails, and we can't convert others to vegetarianism another way, I hate to say it but violence may be necessary. I say if all else fails not because I have anything against a violent revolution, but because if we do it violently people may get the wrong idea about us and even if we won, in the end vegetarianism may end up short lived. Now, if nothing else works, hell, it would be an honor to die fighting for this, just ya, like I said, people are actually going to listen more if we do it peacefully. gah, I don't even know what else im trying to say, but thats the gist of it.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:58 pm


cantkillaliarx333
v e g a n l i c i o u s
    First of all, the Center for Consumer Freedom is a front group for the tobacco, restaurant, and alcohol industries. They run media campaigns opposing the efforts of scientists, environmentalists, doctors, health care enforcers, anti-rights activists, and even groups like Mothers Against Drunk Driving.

    They've fought against the organic food movement.
    They've lobbied for lowering the legal blood alcohol limit for drunk driving.
    And against smoke-free laws.

    Animal shelters are over flooded due to peoples' failure be responsible companions to their animals; to spay and neuter them. Most shelters euthanize animals; and while it's extremely sad, unfortunate, and upsetting - the truth is there's not enough room in shelters.

    The Animal Liberation Front is a peaceful organization.
    They don't take lives; they destroy equipment and buildings in order to hurt the companies torturing animals. They free the animals from the hell of animal testing, the meat industry, the egg industry, and the dairy industry.

    Why is not wanting you to wear real fur a bad thing?
    Animals were murdered for it; how can we advocate animal rights while saying it's okay to kill animals in the name of fashion?

    I do think everybody should be vegetarian, even vegan. If somebody you knew was beating their dogs, would you not be appalled, tell them to stop, fight against it? What the animals face in the meat, egg, and dairy industries is far worse - and what's more frightening is it's socially acceptable.

    And I'm the crazy one because I believe all life is valuable; all creatures deserve to live a life free of suffering, pain, torture, and senseless murder.




i agree but people are like "we are supposedd to eat meat so w/e!" but i am not goiong to force them to go veg. that is their choice
*sigh* i'm going to cut this short, so what if someone was a thief? What if you know they are a thief? What if you have the proof to prove they are one? What if the items they are stealing and the amount of it is something that is completely wrong? Are you going to do all you can to get that person arrested, or are you going to sit by, knowing hes stealing, and say,"I can't do anything, because he says, 'I'm supposed to have this, so this is ok!', and I'm not going to force him to stop stealing, that has to be his choice," knowing the whole time that he doesn't really need the stuff and he's only in it for himself? Now picture the same situation, but with a murderer or a rapist. What about then? My point is that if you know someone is doing something wrong, or a certain practice is occurring that you know is corrupt, you do everything in your power to stop it. Pacifism doesn't go very far, and it goes absolutely nowhere if you don't even have an alternate way of fighting for your beliefs. That's all I have to say.
PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:55 pm


v e g a n l i c i o u s
    First of all, the Center for Consumer Freedom is a front group for the tobacco, restaurant, and alcohol industries. They run media campaigns opposing the efforts of scientists, environmentalists, doctors, health care enforcers, anti-rights activists, and even groups like Mothers Against Drunk Driving.

    They've fought against the organic food movement.
    They've lobbied for lowering the legal blood alcohol limit for drunk driving.
    And against smoke-free laws.

    Animal shelters are over flooded due to peoples' failure be responsible companions to their animals; to spay and neuter them. Most shelters euthanize animals; and while it's extremely sad, unfortunate, and upsetting - the truth is there's not enough room in shelters.

    The Animal Liberation Front is a peaceful organization.
    They don't take lives; they destroy equipment and buildings in order to hurt the companies torturing animals. They free the animals from the hell of animal testing, the meat industry, the egg industry, and the dairy industry.

    Why is not wanting you to wear real fur a bad thing?
    Animals were murdered for it; how can we advocate animal rights while saying it's okay to kill animals in the name of fashion?

    I do think everybody should be vegetarian, even vegan. If somebody you knew was beating their dogs, would you not be appalled, tell them to stop, fight against it? What the animals face in the meat, egg, and dairy industries is far worse - and what's more frightening is it's socially acceptable.

    And I'm the crazy one because I believe all life is valuable; all creatures deserve to live a life free of suffering, pain, torture, and senseless murder.






Same.

Catherine teh Vegan


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 9:25 pm


PETA has some rather extreme ideas on what "helping" animals really is. For this I listen to what they have to say, but I certainly do not agree with nor support them.
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