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When it comes to the topic of abortions, and whether I can be labelled "pro-choice" or "pro-life", I've never really thought about it too much, so that I have a definite opinion of how things should be. That's why my real-life debate with toxic_lollipop yesterday was quite the enlightening experience. over the past couple of days I've been researching pro-choice and pro-life literature, and as of right now, with my ever flexible opinions poised, I've come up with this, as what I think should happen with the abortion issue.

Abortion is, technically, murder. You are killing a thing that is living, and has the potential to grow, and form opinions, and fall in love, and become a complex, multi-layered human being. Being inside a womb, and having a limited environment, it is restrained from experiencing things other than what it's mother can provide. If the mother chooses to have an abortion, it's one more thing that the fetus experiences within its own habitat, but it can not fend for itself. It is defenseless. Is Abortion therefore justifiable?

In some cases, I believe yes. Rape, for instance, is a justifiable situation for abortions. It's not as if you wanted that baby, you did not choose to conceive it, and it may be emotionally traumatizing for you to have a baby that you feel only brings back memories of how the child was conceived, this is a situation where you have to decide if you can take the circumstances in which the child was conceived with acceptance, and if you are willing to live with a child that was forced inside your body.

Abortion is not, repeat, NOT birth control. It should not be utilized frivolously or without maturity. I've personally witnessed circumstances where 16 year old girls have gotten pregnant, and when the father of the child went to jail, it was aborted. As revenge, I suspected. This is the kind of situation where abortions disgust me.

If people would ask me if I was pro-choice or pro-life, I don't know what I'd say, because I can defend both sides based on what I believe. Or maybe I'm just naturally indecisive.

Naw, he's a fencer. I know him from chemistry and I've talked to him. A choicer believes it's everyone's choice, he has stated that he doesn't think it's okay to make that choice in some cases. Many lifers find it acceptable if the woman is raped, that doesn't make them a choicer.

well, I guess I only agree with 5% of abortions then, because I can see no other way for it to be justifiable, through health complications or rape are the only appropriate circumstances.

Yeah, a lot of people who're pro-life feel that way.

That's why my main thing in America is overturning RvW, because then it goes to states rights, which is a start. Mandatory legal abortions available in the other 5% of cases....hmm, trying to remember. Rape you used to have to prove you were raped in some states, others didn't let it by as an excuse. In this country, the declaration of independance gives us the wise words of John Locke revised slightly....life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness.

In that order.

If sex makes you happy, you can't rape someone, their liberty comes first.
If you're pregnant but it'd be an inconvenience to carry to term, the baby's life should come before your liberty (imo, but it makes sense to me.)
Life against life is survival of the fittest...if you need to save yourself by killing another, it's legal and ethical by most social standards.

But then, that's just my view.

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I find it funny when people say it's not. My responce is always "Well then what is it? It's a fetus yes, but what species? Is there a chance it won't develop into a baby? Why not? If it's simply a fetus, which is an all encompassing term, why isn't there only a chance you'll wind up with a human baby?" so on and so forth.

One girl has said over and over that it's not alive. However when I asked her to prove scientifically that it wasn't she asked me to give her time to research it and then never responded again.

That was Mikami, wasn't it? mad