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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 8:32 pm
I know, it's a big issue with us all.
what is your take on it? creationist? big bang? evolution? something else....?
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 8:43 pm
I personnaly try to mix religion with science. it's hard to be accepted int he scientific community if you believe in the creationist theory.
yes i believe God created the earth in 7 days. but who's day are we going by? a day in heaven could be more then a million years of our time. thus allowing the time for humans to evolve.
our God is logical, so he wouldn't just wave his arm and Foosh! something would appear. like all of us he would have molded his creation into prefection over a period of time.
as for our ancestors being apes... well... thats just crazy talk xd
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Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 3:02 pm
i tend to believe the Bible more than science. but i think both are really really important. and each tends to keep the other in check.
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Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 7:55 pm
Funny you would ask this. Because there is a lot of scientific evidence that points to the theory of Creation and about how the world is (roughly) 6,000 years old. Here is some of the evidence that I know of.
1) Before going to the moon for the first time, scientists were worried about the amount of loose dust that the surface of the moon had collected (since it's all basically made out of dust). So, using "science" they calculated that if the earth was millions of years old, the surface would have over 40 feet of loose dust on it. Because of this, silly precautions were made so they would not "sink", such as webbed-like feet for landing. When they finally landed, they found that there was actually less than 6 inches of loose dust. According to their "accurate" calculations, that would equal it to be about 6,000 years old.
2) They have actually traced timelines and family trees back all the way to Adam and Eve. They come out to this conclusion: that their is about 6,000 years on their family tree.
3) Scientists obseving the land guessed that there was a giant flood that happened a couple thousand years ago. This was also around the time that the Bible (Genesis) describes the giant flood which wiped out all of those who were impure in God's eyes.
4) They have proven carbon-dating to be inaccurate. Still, many scientists choose to use it, stubbourn enough to think that it still works.
Ahh, science! The sole weapon that athiest scientists have against us that we can also use against them!
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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 8:16 am
I hate it when scientist think they proved the bible wrong. Some of it maybe be an exsageration to show people the power of God , but most of it is true.
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Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 3:31 pm
First base instincts tell me to go straight creation versus science. Though Given enough time to really think things through I guess I use both...
I doubt we all come from Apes(or monkeys) but I do believe there are similarites to the creature and us. I also believe in what the bible says is true, that we all came from one couple, one man and one female but we were all created.
Like (and this I came up with in Science class of my junior year!) with the idea of all the continents being one whole mass of land, and the many cultures. I mean it was stated in chapter 11 of Genesis that the whole earth was of one language and one speech. I would think that it also ment one culture. So when God seperated the people into different languages (which could also create the different cultures as well) isn't it possible that God also seperated the Earth so that it would help in scattering the people? This was just a theory I thought up of while sitting in a sceince class learning about the plate tectonics.
I think Science is okay when it comes to discovering what the world is like and how God makes everything work. What I don't like about it is when people try to prove everything in the bible and just twist what the bible said.
-shrugs- I"m just new in this guild and wondered if this would help. confused
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Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 5:21 pm
Skyling Draggonnov First base instincts tell me to go straight creation versus science. Though Given enough time to really think things through I guess I use both... I doubt we all come from Apes(or monkeys) but I do believe there are similarites to the creature and us. I also believe in what the bible says is true, that we all came from one couple, one man and one female but we were all created. Like (and this I came up with in Science class of my junior year!) with the idea of all the continents being one whole mass of land, and the many cultures. I mean it was stated in chapter 11 of Genesis that the whole earth was of one language and one speech. I would think that it also ment one culture. So when God seperated the people into different languages (which could also create the different cultures as well) isn't it possible that God also seperated the Earth so that it would help in scattering the people? This was just a theory I thought up of while sitting in a sceince class learning about the plate tectonics. I think Science is okay when it comes to discovering what the world is like and how God makes everything work. What I don't like about it is when people try to prove everything in the bible and just twist what the bible said. -shrugs- I"m just new in this guild and wondered if this would help. confused Your theory makes sense to me. 3nodding And yes, that does help. I've never though of it that way before. I had always wondered if God seperated the continents or if that was another crazy thing that scientists say (such as the "big bang"). Welcome to the guild, by the way.
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Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 7:26 pm
Emery Yamato Skyling Draggonnov First base instincts tell me to go straight creation versus science. Though Given enough time to really think things through I guess I use both... I doubt we all come from Apes(or monkeys) but I do believe there are similarites to the creature and us. I also believe in what the bible says is true, that we all came from one couple, one man and one female but we were all created. Like (and this I came up with in Science class of my junior year!) with the idea of all the continents being one whole mass of land, and the many cultures. I mean it was stated in chapter 11 of Genesis that the whole earth was of one language and one speech. I would think that it also ment one culture. So when God seperated the people into different languages (which could also create the different cultures as well) isn't it possible that God also seperated the Earth so that it would help in scattering the people? This was just a theory I thought up of while sitting in a sceince class learning about the plate tectonics. I think Science is okay when it comes to discovering what the world is like and how God makes everything work. What I don't like about it is when people try to prove everything in the bible and just twist what the bible said. -shrugs- I"m just new in this guild and wondered if this would help. confused Your theory makes sense to me. 3nodding And yes, that does help. I've never though of it that way before. I had always wondered if God seperated the continents or if that was another crazy thing that scientists say (such as the "big bang"). Welcome to the guild, by the way. ^.^ Thanks and you're welcome. I obvious had too much time on my hands to come up with that theory in science class.....^^;;
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Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 10:40 am
Kate_shrew I personnaly try to mix religion with science. it's hard to be accepted int he scientific community if you believe in the creationist theory. yes i believe God created the earth in 7 days. but who's day are we going by? a day in heaven could be more then a million years of our time. thus allowing the time for humans to evolve. our God is logical, so he wouldn't just wave his arm and Foosh! something would appear. like all of us he would have molded his creation into prefection over a period of time. as for our ancestors being apes... well... thats just crazy talk xd While I'd rather believe it than the other option: That we're all products of incest. That whole darwins theory goes against some scientific law. Something like, everything's goingfrom order to chaos. While DT says it's going from chaos to order... eek
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Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 7:50 pm
Kate_shrew our God is logical, so he wouldn't just wave his arm and Foosh! something would appear. like all of us he would have molded his creation into prefection over a period of time. Actually, God isn't logical. Nothing about religion is logical. If God were logical, logically he would have been a product of some other being. Its not that I don't respect your opinion, its a good theory, but I'm just thinking logically. As for me, I believe that God created everything in 7 days. He IS God after all and can do almost anything (almost, because he cannot lie mrgreen )
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 3:03 pm
One year I went to camp the theme was 24/6 and it was on the topic of creation vs evolution. We had two guest speakers...I forget one of them. However, Jobe Martin was very imprisive about his point of creation through a scientific point of view. He even wrote a book I have called "The Evolution of a Creationist" You should check it out if you can get a hold of it. He website is www.biblicaldiscipleship.org. The other man should be on answersingenesis.org somewhere. I hope this helps and God bless.
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Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 2:41 pm
creationist? I believe God Created all big bang? He said BANG and it happened evolution? Dont believe in it something else....? Look back at the first answer
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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 3:49 pm
Seolyk Kate_shrew our God is logical, so he wouldn't just wave his arm and Foosh! something would appear. like all of us he would have molded his creation into prefection over a period of time. Actually, God isn't logical. Nothing about religion is logical. If God were logical, logically he would have been a product of some other being. Its not that I don't respect your opinion, its a good theory, but I'm just thinking logically. As for me, I believe that God created everything in 7 days. He IS God after all and can do almost anything (almost, because he cannot lie mrgreen ) true but some of the logic is in psycology so it's kind of hard for people to understand. I just finised a book that was very deep and psycological so forgive me if it hasn't worn off yet and i still think anything is possible.... sweatdrop xd
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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 6:21 pm
Now i would like to know what peoplein here think about Darwin. Personnaly I don't mind the guy I mind the people that followed him and warped his ideas.
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 8:13 am
Kate_shrew Now i would like to know what peoplein here think about Darwin. Personnaly I don't mind the guy I mind the people that followed him and warped his ideas. True. He's just another guy that had a false theory about something. Lots of people have had false theories. What bugs me is that scientists and schools use it because it is the only explanation that they can come up with that doesn't invole God. I personally don't believe it. Not only are the years of each 'species' WAY off, but it doesn't match with the rule of 'cause and effect'.
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