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gman15975

PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:08 pm


I bet some of you have seen pictures of Nissan's next generation GT-R, but if you haven't, here:


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The near finished model was seen at this year's Goodwood Festival of Speed:Autoblog article

So my question is, what do you guys think of it and why?
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 9:44 am


I think this car is pritty good, I knew it was coming out so i was exyded how it wold look like.
it has a cool shape odo the lights are a litte weird...

710

Rafaelbig


Masticatius

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:40 am


That's going to be nice!
PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 8:05 pm


Wow cool car!

krazer427


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 5:44 am


No Nissan, I repeat, NO Nissan, deserves the name GT-R if it doesn't have a straight-six engine. The badge is the equivalent of something like the BMW M badge to Japan, and is unique only to the Skyline. It shouldn't stand out on its own as "Nissan GT-R".

It doesn't matter how incredible the performance of this machine might be. The jumped-up Frenchmen who run Nissan just don't understand. Shinichiro Sakurai must be crying.
PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 11:13 am


My dad had a nissan!

krazer427


gman15975

PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:52 pm


kAiTo tEh bLaZiN aSiAn
No Nissan, I repeat, NO Nissan, deserves the name GT-R if it doesn't have a straight-six engine. The badge is the equivalent of something like the BMW M badge to Japan, and is unique only to the Skyline. It shouldn't stand out on its own as "Nissan GT-R".

It doesn't matter how incredible the performance of this machine might be. The jumped-up Frenchmen who run Nissan just don't understand. Shinichiro Sakurai must be crying.


Well, the GT-R was always a different car from the rest of the Skyline brand, so what does it matter is it loses the Skyline name.

As for the I6 arrangement, I thinks it's inferior the the V6 arrangement. Too high and too long.
PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 10:12 pm


gman15975
kAiTo tEh bLaZiN aSiAn
No Nissan, I repeat, NO Nissan, deserves the name GT-R if it doesn't have a straight-six engine. The badge is the equivalent of something like the BMW M badge to Japan, and is unique only to the Skyline. It shouldn't stand out on its own as "Nissan GT-R".

It doesn't matter how incredible the performance of this machine might be. The jumped-up Frenchmen who run Nissan just don't understand. Shinichiro Sakurai must be crying.


Well, the GT-R was always a different car from the rest of the Skyline brand, so what does it matter is it loses the Skyline name.

As for the I6 arrangement, I thinks it's inferior the the V6 arrangement. Too high and too long.

You wouldn't understand what the R badge means to us if you weren't Japanese, this is just a fact. And I'll have you know, the R was never a different car from the rest. The RB26 is, when all is said and done, based on the RB24ET engine's bore and stroke size. The monocoque skeleton of the body is identical to that of the rest of the range, although reinforced: it shares drivetrain components with the GTS-4. It existed purely because the name Skyline existed, it owes everything to the "rest of the Skyline brand".

As for the L6 layout, even with all its drawbacks, a V6 will never give that beautiful howl of a well-sorted straight-six. BMW, one of the best engine makers in the world, still use the layout and got engine of the year for the twin turbo version last year. It is never, EVER inferior to a V6.

The definition for the R badge remains the same:
The top-most grade of the Nissan Skyline range, designed especially to win touring car races.


kAiTo tEh bLaZiN aSiAn


gman15975

PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 9:56 am


kAiTo tEh bLaZiN aSiAn
gman15975
kAiTo tEh bLaZiN aSiAn
No Nissan, I repeat, NO Nissan, deserves the name GT-R if it doesn't have a straight-six engine. The badge is the equivalent of something like the BMW M badge to Japan, and is unique only to the Skyline. It shouldn't stand out on its own as "Nissan GT-R".

It doesn't matter how incredible the performance of this machine might be. The jumped-up Frenchmen who run Nissan just don't understand. Shinichiro Sakurai must be crying.


Well, the GT-R was always a different car from the rest of the Skyline brand, so what does it matter is it loses the Skyline name.

As for the I6 arrangement, I thinks it's inferior the the V6 arrangement. Too high and too long.

You wouldn't understand what the R badge means to us if you weren't Japanese, this is just a fact. And I'll have you know, the R was never a different car from the rest. The RB26 is, when all is said and done, based on the RB24ET engine's bore and stroke size. The monocoque skeleton of the body is identical to that of the rest of the range, although reinforced: it shares drivetrain components with the GTS-4. It existed purely because the name Skyline existed, it owes everything to the "rest of the Skyline brand".

As for the L6 layout, even with all its drawbacks, a V6 will never give that beautiful howl of a well-sorted straight-six. BMW, one of the best engine makers in the world, still use the layout and got engine of the year for the twin turbo version last year. It is never, EVER inferior to a V6.

The definition for the R badge remains the same:
The top-most grade of the Nissan Skyline range, designed especially to win touring car races.



Well, eventually, every car, no matter how nostalgic, goes through some sort of redesign, to create a better car than what the predecessor was. A design can only last so long. If we only followed the trends of the time, we would never advance the automotive market. Thats what the GT-R was about when it was released as the R32 model. Now Nissan wants to rethink their design, and I think they know what they're doing.

I think Nissan would rather develop their current V6, the VQ series, than rather create a new I6, because it's cheaper, and it shows the potential of the engine. BMW even knows that they can build a better engine, and thats why their new M3 uses a new V8 and not a tuned verison of their I6 from the new 3 series.

I can understand why you'd be upset, it would be like if some changed a nostalgic American car (like when Ford was going to phase out the Mustang for the FWD Probe). Whether we like it or not, and automaker will do what they like with their make and model, and as painful as it is, if you give the new car a chance, you'll be most surprised.

Besides, most fans of the GT-R love it not for what features the car has, or what engine it uses, but for what the car is, a awesome handling sports coupe, and if Nissan sticks to that, then that's all I care.

Personally, If I owned an R32-R34 series GT-R, I would replace the RB for a 600-800 horsepower VK series V8, simply because no one has done it yet, and I think it would be a mean sounding engine.

In short, you have your opinions and I have mine.
PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 5:45 pm


kAiTo tEh bLaZiN aSiAn
gman15975
kAiTo tEh bLaZiN aSiAn
No Nissan, I repeat, NO Nissan, deserves the name GT-R if it doesn't have a straight-six engine. The badge is the equivalent of something like the BMW M badge to Japan, and is unique only to the Skyline. It shouldn't stand out on its own as "Nissan GT-R".

It doesn't matter how incredible the performance of this machine might be. The jumped-up Frenchmen who run Nissan just don't understand. Shinichiro Sakurai must be crying.


Well, the GT-R was always a different car from the rest of the Skyline brand, so what does it matter is it loses the Skyline name.

As for the I6 arrangement, I thinks it's inferior the the V6 arrangement. Too high and too long.

You wouldn't understand what the R badge means to us if you weren't Japanese, this is just a fact. And I'll have you know, the R was never a different car from the rest. The RB26 is, when all is said and done, based on the RB24ET engine's bore and stroke size. The monocoque skeleton of the body is identical to that of the rest of the range, although reinforced: it shares drivetrain components with the GTS-4. It existed purely because the name Skyline existed, it owes everything to the "rest of the Skyline brand".

As for the L6 layout, even with all its drawbacks, a V6 will never give that beautiful howl of a well-sorted straight-six. BMW, one of the best engine makers in the world, still use the layout and got engine of the year for the twin turbo version last year. It is never, EVER inferior to a V6.

The definition for the R badge remains the same:
The top-most grade of the Nissan Skyline range, designed especially to win touring car races.

I may not be Japanese, but I know how you feel. That's why I stick with the early 90's model Nissan's, like my '93 240 coupe. take a look at my car in the Show your Ride section and help me explain to the other guy that the 240SX Coupe and the Silvia are basically (minus the engine, right hand drive, and front bumper) the exact same car.

Nymphocide


Masticatius

PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 11:21 am


kAiTo tEh bLaZiN aSiAn

You wouldn't understand what the R badge means to us if you weren't Japanese, this is just a fact. And I'll have you know, the R was never a different car from the rest. The RB26 is, when all is said and done, based on the RB24ET engine's bore and stroke size. The monocoque skeleton of the body is identical to that of the rest of the range, although reinforced: it shares drivetrain components with the GTS-4. It existed purely because the name Skyline existed, it owes everything to the "rest of the Skyline brand".

As for the L6 layout, even with all its drawbacks, a V6 will never give that beautiful howl of a well-sorted straight-six. BMW, one of the best engine makers in the world, still use the layout and got engine of the year for the twin turbo version last year. It is never, EVER inferior to a V6.

The definition for the R badge remains the same:
The top-most grade of the Nissan Skyline range, designed especially to win touring car races.


Believe it or not, marketing decisions aren't always made by the CEO, and anyway, Carlos Ghosn may be French, but he was hired by the Japanese who run Nissan.

I understand your sentiment when it comes a car you are a fan of, please leave the ethnic pride out of it, it's divisive and irrelevant. There are plenty of Japanese who don't give half a s**t about the GT-R, and I'm sure there are plenty of Americans excited by the fact that they'll finally be able to buy one, straight-six or no. There are plenty of Japanese who really like American muscle cars. Would I tell them they couldn't possibly like them as much as I do because they're not American? It's a car. Anyone can appreciate a work of art, and engineering has it's own language and soul.

Unfortunately, the old must always give way to the new, and the vocal enthusiastic traditionalists will always have very little say, because they represent very little of the market.

Posrsche sold out and started producing an SUV. Enthusiasts were outraged. Too bad people didn't buy enough sports cars. Thanks to the Cayenne, Porsche's doing better than ever. Honda discontinued the Type R in Japan, when Japanese Type Rs were the envy of enthusiasts the world over. Too bad they didn't sell too well in their home country. (In recent news, I heard they're bringing them back).

There are stories like this all the time. Every time I open a car magazine, I read about a company either breaking from tradition or going back to it. It all just depends on what the market wants. V8s are in right now. As cars get heavier, they need more torque and V8s are the best way to get it. The new Lexus IS series has one available. The new BMW M3 has one. And to compete in that growing market, the GT-R must have one as well. Sure, they could stick with tradition and make another Skyline-based straight-six, but it just wouldn't be able to compete with the other cars in this class anymore. And thus, the engineers behind this car have to choose whether they'll stick with the tradition of a Skyline-based straight-six powered car, or a car designed to beat all other touring cars.
PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 3:36 pm


It is going to be interesting to see what Nissan sets the price of this puppy at. I had a feeling this car was going to end up going head to head with the super Vettes (ZO6 and the not yet produced blue devil style Vettes). But if the GTR really ends up having AWD and AWS then I think the price is going to be pushed into the super car area.

CXTKRS1


gman15975

PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 8:46 am


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Tokyo, Japan, (September 26, 2007) - Nissan today started the pre-launch activities in support of the all-new GT-R, the high performance sports car to be revealed at the Tokyo Motor Show on October 24th. Central to the launch of GT-R, which will ultimately go on sale around the world, is a dedicated website that will provide all information on the car, including latest news, specifications and where to buy. The address for the website is www.gtrnissan.com and will be available in six languages: Japanese, English, Spanish, German, French and Italian.

With sales due to start in Japan in December, Nissan is today also confirming the final name of the car. Previous generations of this car were known as the Skyline GT-R; the new name for this car is simply Nissan GT-R in all global markets. Supporting substantial early customer interest in the Nissan GT-R, the company is today making available for customers in Japan some initial details including basic specifications, colors and practical information on placing pre-orders. Prices in Japan for the Nissan GT-R will start from around 7.8 million yen.

In support of the sale of the Nissan GT-R, the company also announced today the establishment of 160 Nissan High Performance Centers in Japan. These centers have been established to provide specialist sales and servicing support for customers of the Nissan GT-R.

Story by Nissan

473 horsepower
434 ft lbs of torque
0-60 in 3.5 seconds
197 mph top speed
$70,000 USD
PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 9:48 am


can't wait to see these things driving around on the streets. It's about time Nissan released a Skyline into America. 70K though! ouch! too steep of a price for me.

Onewing949


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 8:53 pm


I went to see it inthe flesh the other day, to Nissan Gallary Nagoya. Its exterior exceeded my expectations, but the interior... nasty as nasty could be. They've festooned it with R badges EVERYWHERE. You open the door, where a big chrome R logo greets you on the area that you step over, whatever it's called. then, three inches from it there's another big shiny R badge in the carpet, and you look up to find an even bigger badge staring at you from the steering wheel. Press the starter button in the center console, and the Multi-function comes up to first show you an R badge. I'm surprised they didn't just ust the badge for the pattern on the carpets.
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