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Medimoon1

PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 1:32 pm


I personally beleive that abortions are wrong, esecially when someone doesn't want the child because the child puts them in a dificult position.
The only time I beleive an abortion should be performed is when the mother's life is in danger, as in, the mother is in the hospital with some sort of medical problem due to something. Another reason for an abortion in my mind is if the mother was raped and the child is the product of that rape. My friend posted the following in her journal. She believes that what this mother did was wrong.


Hi Mommy. I'm your baby. You don't know me yet, I'm only a few weeks old. You're going to find out about me soon, though, I promise. Let me tell you some things about me. My name is John, and I've got beautiful brown eyes and black hair. Well, I don't have it yet, but I will when I'm born. I'm going to be your only child, and you'll call me your one and only. I'm going to grow up without a daddy mostly, but we have each other. We'll help each other, and love each other. I want to be a doctor when I grow up.
You found out about me today, Mommy! You were so excited, you couldn't wait to tell everyone. All you could do all day was smile, and life was perfect. You have a beautiful smile, Mommy. It will be the first face I will see in my life, and it will be the best thing I see in my life. I know it already.
Today was the day you told Daddy. You were so excited to tell him about me! ...He wasn't happy, Mommy. He kind of got angry. I don't think that you noticed, but he did. He started to talk about something called wedlock, and money, and bills, and stuff I don't think I understand yet. You were still happy, though, so it was okay. Then he did something scary, Mommy. He hit you. I could feel you fall backward, and your hands flying up to protect me. I was okay... but I was very sad for you. You were crying then, Mommy. That's a sound I don't like. It doesn't make me feel good. It made me cry, too. He said sorry after, and he hugged you again. You forgave him, Mommy, but I'm not sure if I do. It wasn't right. You say he loves you... why would he hurt you? I don't like it, Mommy.
Finally, you can see me! Your stomach is a little bit bigger, and you're so proud of me! You went out with your mommy to buy new clothes, and you were so so so happy. You sing to me, too. You have the most beautiful voice in the world. When you sing is when I'm happiest. And you talk to me, and I feel safe. So safe. You just wait and see, Mommy. When I am born I will be perfect just for you. I will make you proud, and I will love you with all of my heart.
I can move my hands and feet now, Mommy. I do it because you put your hands on your belly to feel me, and I giggle. You giggle, too. I love you, Mommy.
Daddy came to see you today, Mommy. I got really scared. He was acting funny and he wasn't talking right. He said he didn't want you. I don't know why, but that's what he said. And he hit you again. I got angry, Mommy. When I grow up I promise I won't let you get hurt! I promise to protect you. Daddy is bad. I don't care if you think that he is a good person, I think he's bad. But he hit you, and he said he didn't want us. He doesn't like me. Why doesn't he like me, Mommy?
You didn't talk to me tonight, Mommy. Is everything okay?
It's been three days since you saw Daddy. You haven't talked to me or touched me or anything since that. Don't you still love me, Mommy? I still love you. I think you feel sad. The only time I feel you is when you sleep. You sleep funny, kind of curled up on your side. And you hug me with your arms, and I feel safe and warm again. Why don't you do that when you're awake, any more?
I'm 21 weeks old today, Mommy. Aren't you proud of me? We're going somewhere today, and it's somewhere new. I'm excited. It looks like a hospital, too. I want to be a doctor when I grow up, Mommy. Did I tell you that? I hope you're as excited as I am. I can't wait.
...Mommy, I'm getting scared. Your heart is still beating, but I don't know what you are thinking. The doctor is talking to you. I think something's going to happen soon. I'm really, really, really scared, Mommy. Please tell me you love me. Then I will feel safe again. I love you!
Mommy, what are they doing to me!? It hurts! Please make them stop! It feels bad! Please, Mommy, please please help me! Make them stop!

Don't worry Mommy, I'm safe. I'm in heaven with the angels now. Jesus told me what you did, he said it's called an abortion.
Why, Mommy? Why did you do it? Don't you love me any more? Why did you get rid of me? I'm really, really, really sorry if I did something wrong, Mommy. I love you, Mommy! I love you with all of my heart. Why don't you love me? What did I do to deserve what they did to me? I want to live, Mommy! Please! It really, really hurts to see you not care about me, and not talk to me. Didn't I love you enough? Please say you'll keep me, Mommy! I want to live and grow up and be a doctor. I don't want to be here, I want you to love me again! I'm really really really sorry if I did something wrong. I love you!
I love you, Mommy.
PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 3:27 pm


Appeal to emotion fallacy. Fetuses have neither higher thought processes nor pain receptors until the third trimester.

Shiroi Kokoro no Mendori


Medimoon1

PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 5:11 pm


Still, to kill a child just because your husband isn't happy with that fact that your pregnate isn't a reason to get abortion.
PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 9:47 pm


And if you get raped and you are pregnant? you'll not do abortion?
If you have 12 years old or it's dangerous for you to have this child you'll not do abortion? Many facts can make you abort, girl dont only abort cuz their husbands dont want it, the girl can also be the one who dont want it.

destruction angel


Godrules272

PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 3:02 pm


Medimoon1
The only time I beleive an abortion should be performed is when the mother's life is in danger, as in, the mother is in the hospital with some sort of medical problem due to something. Another reason for an abortion in my mind is if the mother was raped and the child is the product of that rape.


to appeal for this person, destruction angel, please note the quote (I ryhmed!). also, it says:

Medimoon1
My friend posted the following in her journal. She believes that what this mother did was wrong.

it doesn't say Medimoon1 wrote it, it says her friend wrote it.

oh, and I agree with the 1st quote just to go ahead and add that.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:17 pm


i was asking some question cuz my father told me about a woman who have be raped but have keep her child cuz it wasnt the child fault, do we have to punish the child for the father's mistake, it doesnt make sense but if i was raped, will i keep the child? seriously i really dont know especially when you have a bf, it more difficult i think and when i said "you" it cuz i want everyone to think deeply about what they'll do in a situation like this.

destruction angel


Godrules272

PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 10:47 am


destruction angel
i was asking some question cuz my father told me about a woman who have be raped but have keep her child cuz it wasnt the child fault, do we have to punish the child for the father's mistake, it doesnt make sense but if i was raped, will i keep the child? seriously i really dont know especially when you have a bf, it more difficult i think and when i said "you" it cuz i want everyone to think deeply about what they'll do in a situation like this.


now I get what you were saying. and I personally would not have an abortion just because I was raped. but for some girls, to have a rapist's baby would cause deep pscyhological trauma if they actually kept the baby. everytime they looked at the child they could easily think back to the act that conceived the child. of course, a simple way to fix this would be to put the child up for adoption but since everyone has a different mind, even this could affect the mother, especially if she ended up holding the baby when it came from the womb since her motherly instincts would then kick in. one more thought, at least if a baby is killed, it goes to be with God. though that doesn't particularly make the situation 'better'. I hope I've been clear.
PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 11:05 pm


Shiroi Kokoro no Mendori
Appeal to emotion fallacy. Fetuses have neither higher thought processes nor pain receptors until the third trimester.


Bingo! We have a winner!

lordstar


Sarcastic_Angel

PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 8:08 pm


Just wanna say first off that I support the freedom of choice, but I don't support the choice.

To me, abortion is wrong. In my mind when a girl is pregnant, the child is alive. he/she breathes, grows, moves, consumes and uses food and energy....and is human.
However, I don't think the choice should be taken away from the mothers and families. God made us with the power to choose. why would I want to limit what God has given?

So again, support power of choice, but don't support the choice of abortion.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 4:25 am


I agree with all sides. I do believe abortion is wrong. However when a young girl or woman is raped, it's not right that she should be required to carry a child that is going to cause trauma. she'll be raising something that could be a mini version in appearance of her predator, and i know i personally couldn't live with that. Unfortunately there is hardly a way an abortion clinic could verify that a woman was raped. I also believe there should be a law on abortion. Personally i believe that once the heart is beating, a baby is a baby and should be able to live. I know the heart forms early on, but God breathes life into these children, and if they are unwanted, they should be carried then put up for adoption rather than killed before experiencing life.

Nakayru
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