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Yume Keraun

PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:57 pm


California is attempting to pass a law that requires most cats and dogs to be fixed. It is already on its way to the Senate.
Rhode Island, as of June 10th already has a mandatory law passed for cats to be spayed or neutered if 6 months or older. *This topic is for the Cali law, not the R.I. law.*

Purpose of this Law:
-It is aimed at reducing the estimated 500,000 unwanted dogs and cats that are destroyed in California animal shelters each year.
“The more animals neutered and spayed, the fewer animals born, the fewer animals coming into our shelters, and fewer animals are euthanized,” said Pat Claerbout, president of the California Animal Control Directors Association.

At least 500,000 animals each year are killed in the most populous U.S. state, imposing an unacceptable “humanitarian” cost on California, said Assemblyman Lloyd Levine, the Democrat promoting the bill.
Those dogs and cats also impose a big expense to the state as keeping and killing them costs $300 million a year, Levine said in a telephone interview

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Some are opposing this law. Now I do not have the full text on the law, but I do believe it can be very beneficial with some consideration.

- They have already said Breeders, as well as guide dog owners, can apply for an exemption.
-- Pro: Puppies will still be available, hopefully less from mills.
-- Con: They may not allow -all- breeds to be bred.
--- Complaint: Professional breeders say, “It will drive up their costs and entangle them in bureaucracy, and that it would amount to social engineering for animals.” [Can I get a definition of ‘social engineering for animals?]
--- Complaint: In the Sierra foothills, officials in rural Amador County complained “…it could lead to the demise of the beloved mutt”

- There is [not to my knowledge] a grandfather clause for already owned animals.
-- Pro: Owners who do not take precautions to keep an unfixed animal indoors, will have to get it fixed or face hefty fines.
-- Con: Those who are responsible with an unfixed pet may have a hard time getting the animal fixed. Thus facing hefty fines. [This is a very weak con, in my opinion.]

- All animals will have to be fixed by at least 4 months of age or be fined.
-- Pro: There is less chance of some genital diseases, and unwanted offspring.
-- Con: Some pet owners may abandon their pets rather than face the cost or fees.


So far it seems the only ones complaining are the Professional Breeders, those who work in dog shows, and law officials who do not want to think about the ‘time and cost’ of enforcing such a law.

Overall I am in FULL SUPPORT of this law being passed IF they allow breeders to breed any type of dog desired. I do not want this to be a way for them to say "Pit bulls, Dobermans, these are to risky to breed. So no, you are not exempt from the spay/neuter law."

***I am aware that this may be moved to the Debate thread. I think at first though people should be aware that such a law is in progress. ***
***Source for Cali. law is http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19463307/ as well as http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19113211/ ***
*** Source for the R.I. law is from http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13248311/ ***
PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 1:15 am


I really can't say I'm for this bill, not that it makes any difference living in the mid-Atlantic region. I understand what it's trying to do and everything, but something about it just seems too much, too extreme.

What kind of exceptions will be made for barn/feral cats? After working for years at horse barns, it's common knowledge that many of the cats that start showing up come from who-knows-where. They come in regularly for food and water, but they don't stay around and don't want attention. Heck, you're hard-pressed to get within ten feet of some without getting any hissing, yowling, clawing, or attacking. Would California consider the barn owner to be the "owner" of these cats that they can't even get near, let alone pick up to take them to get fixed, just because they're feeding the animal? If so, that's simply unfair, because barns often have to many cats passing through to afford that at all. If not, then the whole purpose of hte bill is defeated, because these cats do breed.

Will the government be providing low-cost options for people with lower incomes? If a family takes in an animal temporarily after finding it on the street, just long enough to find it a home because they can't afford to keep it permanently, will they be required to fix the dog?

The first time some breeder's dog runs away for a couple months, is found by someone else, and gets "fixed" by its new "owners" before being returned, I won't be surprised if the breeder sues the state AND the people who found the dog. ninja

Is anything in this being done to prevent puppy mills from continuing? Someone who starts off as a registered breeder with a spaying/neuturing exception that only has to be reapplied for every few years can basically keep the dogs in whatever horrid conditions he/she wants in the time between. The fact that other people can't breed the animals doesn't have any significance in this case, and you can't tell me that the government will be routinely inspecting EVERY person permitted to breed animals.

Are any programs being put in place to help with the spaying and neuturing of feral and stray animals in general?

And, of course, there's the mutt issue, because I think mutts are absolutely fabulous dogs, and people generally do not officially "breed" them enough to go through beaurocratic steps to register..


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