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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 12:53 pm
Well, I jsut started to notice this lately.
I usually lunge Riley before I ride, to get out bucks and get smooth transitions. When I go to lunge him to the left, he gets tense and starts to race... then he'll pick up the wrong lead. So, I have to bring him down and try again. Usually it takes a few tries before he picks up the right lead, but I have to bring his head in and flick the whip a few times and make the "kissing" sound.
This makes him tense and pull even more. However, its ONLY to the left, when we go to the right and I ask for him to pick up the canter, we have no problems. This has only been recently in the last month or so, and its starting to concern me - he always use to pick up the correct lead in both directions with no problems.
I was already advised to check the saddle fit and his back etc. to get that ruled out. So, I'm going to make a vet app. to get his back checked and I'm going to have his saddle checked to.
I have a video of lunging him, when he pulls, races and picks up the wrong lead. I've been watching his [removed](To see about any signs of pain) and from what I can tell, he doesn't look in pain, his ears are forward etc. from what I can tell.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W27NZcZ8hic
So, once I get that ruled out - what would your suggesstions be to get him to pick up the correct lead again going left without making him tense.
All suggestions and opinions are welcome!
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:56 pm
he's just one sided. is he young? lots of green horses are one sided. all horses have a side they like better. western ones (or none dressage) especially. u can try keeping him at the canter on the lunge line and try him to change on his own. and then if he doesnt change after a circle, bring him down to trot. try working him more on this side at the canter. it will help build strength on that side.
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 4:15 am
He just turned 7 yearlier in May. He's always been perfect on both sides up until just recently (End of May/Early June).
I'm going to go out to the barn, check his back and legs - have his saddle checked. I'm going to try putting him on a longer line (Once I figure out where the thief dog ditched it rolleyes ) and work him on the left more.
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 6:44 am
I Usally take my horse outin a large field where it doesn't matter about the lead & I Work Getting him/her to canter from a stop
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 8:36 am
Thing is, I think its important for him to pick up the correct lead. If he's always picking up the wrong lead, he's unbalanced and uncomfortable.
I'm trying to get ahold of a vet who can come out soon, but its not going to well. I want to rule out physical issues.
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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 8:40 am
How about long lining him? There, you have the help of an outside rein and the horse is more balanced in general. However, it's not a good choice if you know your horse to buck or spook, since the lines can get caught.
Do you have a round pen? Have you ever tried free lunging to see if you get the same result?
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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 10:19 am
x_Devils_Child_x Thing is, I think its important for him to pick up the correct lead. If he's always picking up the wrong lead, he's unbalanced and uncomfortable.
I'm trying to get ahold of a vet who can come out soon, but its not going to well. I want to rule out physical issues. You Could Try Having An Equine Chyropractor come look at him/her
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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 5:41 pm
Theres a round pen, its not as bad but he still sometimes picks up the wrong lead. I would try it, but he does spook sometimes and he bucks (Better on the ground than in the saddle) and I don't want to be kicked or have him get hurt.
The closest equine chiro is 2 hours away :/ but...
I have an update. He's doing a bit better.
I went out to see Riley, the barn owner and I both checked him for back pain. The only thing he did was turn his head to look at what I was doing. That's something he always does - then he started trying to eat the cross ties rolleyes silly silly horse. Throughout all this his little ears were pricked.
I put on my rope halter instead of his nylon one. I put him on a longer line, and let him walk around awhile. When I did decide to trot him, I let him get all his little fits out, and I waited till he seemed totally relaxed before I asked for the canter. I didn't encourage with the lunge whip - I only used my voice. I started him off to the left and he did really well. Out of 5 times he only picked up the wrong lead once. He was even better going right.
Riley's really sensitive about lunge whips, I think thats what was making him on the tense side. The whip was there, but it wasn't doing too much encouraging.
I then saddled him up and lunged him again, I put him back on the longer line. He had a little more trouble picking it up, he was more tense but then again he is cinchy... so... could be explained? I got 4 good transitions out of him going left. He did even better going right. As usual.
I got on to ride, he was very good, well behaved at the walk and trot - not trying to take off. Well, I asked for the canter to the left, to see if he'd pick up the correct lead. rolleyes Baaaad idea, we're not ready for that yet with the problems we're having... BUT he did pick up the correct lead. Then after that, he'd pick up the canter to take off, he continued to pick up the correct lead.
I checked him after the ride for soreness, he let out a sigh and lowered his head. His lip was quivering, he was relaxed and looked like he was going to fall asleep on me, lol. His ears were forward and his eyes half closed. After I turned him out, he found a nice good spot to roll.
I'm not sure if its a physical issue, his saddle seems to fit properly - I plan to go out again this week and work withh him more and more on his left side. It's sort of become our difficult side during riding so I think its our difficult side on the ground. I'll keep him on a longer line.
I'm still going to have the vet out and check him and get his shots.
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 8:03 am
I'd try putting some padding under the cantle area, as it might be hitting him as you canter, causing him to feel a bit of pressure and pain. Having his cinch covered in a light cloth might be the next step. Make sure you have some padding under his saddle. It might help him as the padding takes most of the blow.
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Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 5:14 pm
He's got a good thick saddle pad - I've heard nothing but good things about it. I use the Wrangler SMx Air Ride with a cotton under pad. That's one of the best western saddle pads offered in the tack shop here.
Well, I don't know how I can add padding with a western saddle like some do with the english. My current pad is good and thick (But not too thick) I've been thinking of adding a rear cinch for when I lunge him, just to keep the saddle from bouncing up and down a whole lot (I notice it bounces at the trot but not so much the canter).
He picks up the canter perfectly in the 60ft roundpen, no problems. So I've been starting him in there before taking him to the outdoor arena to ride.
Riley's currently off work at the moment as well. He has a bad chip in his left front hoof that's getting immediate attention from the farrier as soon as this long weekend is over... stupid holidays...
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:21 pm
Saikano I'd try putting some padding under the cantle area, as it might be hitting him as you canter, causing him to feel a bit of pressure and pain. Having his cinch covered in a light cloth might be the next step. Make sure you have some padding under his saddle. It might help him as the padding takes most of the blow. Depends on the padding and the saddle fit. If the saddle is too narrow then extra padding makes it worse - like wearing an extra pair of socks because your shoes are too tight.
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Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:32 pm
I know exactly what you're going through, my horse is the same way! What I did was completely left the whip out of the picture and worked that way, making him listen to voice ONLY. After he got that down I worked with the whip while he was stopped completely. If he's squeemish about the whip, rub it all over him to let him know it's a friend not an enemy.
Work him his bad way first. That way when he does better to the right, it'll end on a good note. Use ALOT of positive reinforcement. Keep us posted ^^
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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 9:27 am
I always work his bad way first.
I've been working him in the round pen (Bigger circle then trying on the lunge line in the arena) and he picks it up fine. Trying on the lunge line, its more difficult.
Currently I can't even get him to do a full-circle of the round pen at any gait stare the neighbors bought some alpaca’s and their in the field closest the round pen and the horses are dead scared of them.
I'm going to get my coach out, and have him work with Riley for a bit. Maybe its just how I'm asking him? :/ .. I'm also getting him use to the lunge whip, because he is squirmish about it - he see's it and he tries to break into a trot. He was never abused, he's just really sensitive.
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:17 am
Do You Have A Trainer at your barn?
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 4:06 pm
x_Devils_Child_x He just turned 7 yearlier in May. He's always been perfect on both sides up until just recently (End of May/Early June).
I'm going to go out to the barn, check his back and legs - have his saddle checked. I'm going to try putting him on a longer line (Once I figure out where the thief dog ditched it rolleyes ) and work him on the left more. Good idea keeping him on a longer line. I would suggest cutting down the canter work for a while and increasing the trot. Strengthen him up a bit and let him settle. Change the rein quite frequently to give him a break.
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