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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 4:42 pm
Anyone else live in an area where there are no other Jews, and no groups within easy traveling distance?
If so, how do you maintain Jewish practices (including eating kosher)?
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 8:50 pm
*Raises hand half way*
There are Jews here. "Several" families, according to the paper.
I have a very hard time keeping kosher though, not only because of my soft spot for cheeseburgers, but also because NOTHING in this town is certified kosher. It's so ridiculous. The kosher section of Wal Mart has matzah and like...salt.
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 8:52 pm
I live near lots of Jews, so I have no real opinion xD
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 9:03 pm
kingpinsqeezels I have a very hard time keeping kosher though, not only because of my soft spot for cheeseburgers... I think everyone has a weakness when it comes to being kosher. Mine are crab legs and calamari. I haven't had either in 4 years...but oh...I want them... I live near one of the largest Jewish communities in the US, so...I wish I could help, but I can't...
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 9:55 pm
kingpinsqeezels *Raises hand half way* There are Jews here. "Several" families, according to the paper. I have a very hard time keeping kosher though, not only because of my soft spot for cheeseburgers, but also because NOTHING in this town is certified kosher. It's so ridiculous. The kosher section of Wal Mart has matzah and like...salt. Heh. I know what you mean about the kosher section. Where I go to college they have kosher deserts and matzo, and only for Passover. My college doesn't even offer Kosher, and we're required (for at least a year) to buy their meal plan. By the way, my weakness to kosher is sea food. Grew up on the east coast, eating lobster, shrimp, clams, and all manner of tasty non-kosher food. My family is pretty secular, bordering on atheist, with beliefs that are more agnostic than anything. My parents laughed when I asked for them to buy kosher food. So there's no help from my family.
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 11:13 am
Well, being as the Jewish population in my school consists of my family and like 6 other kids (2 of which celebrate Christmas as well), there's not a lot of Jews where I live. xp
The closest temple to me is about 20 minutes, which isn't bad considering what some others have to go through.
Kosher is....tricky. I keep kosher the absolute best I can. The usual no mixing meat and dairy, no eating certain kinds of food, etc. We have 2 sets of silverware at home since my parents grew up in a highly Jewish neighborhood in Chicago. But, nobody else really cares as much anymore, so I'm basically the only one that does. Luckily, my mom at least is fairly supportive of me. While they might eat lasagna or chicken parmesan, I get a meatless one. As much as I used to love shrimp, I cut them out once I found they weren't kosher. The same with clam chowder. I do every last thing within my own power, but I simply can't be perfect. The kosher section in the grocery store is similar to everybody else's- lots and lots of matza, some matza balls, and some very Jewish foods.
My brothers laugh at me while eating meat lovers pizza with stuffed crust, and my parents will end up offering me pizza after they just watched me make a sandwich. I know a lot of the time (my parents) don't mean it or even realize what they're doing, but it's still frustrating.
Shabbat is impossible to keep fully. Not only is every last karate belt test on a Friday or Saturday, but school isn't much better. Missing school is a nightmare, especially since I'm in all AP classes and we don't get off for any Jewish holiday.
I'm just moving when I get old enough, or going to WashU if accepted, as at least they have a great Hillel program. xp
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darkphoenix1247 Vice Captain
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 11:46 am
Oh my gosh! Don't even get me started on my love of Crab and Shrimp and other delicious bottom feeders. I rarely eat them, but they're so good.
Right now I've started on pork. It's the easiest, so I started with it first. Then I'll move to meat/cheese, and finally bottom feeders. I think I can do it, especially once I move somewhere better than here.
I do forget that the health food stores offer much more kosher items than the devil. (Wal Mart)
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 11:55 am
kingpinsqeezels Oh my gosh! Don't even get me started on my love of Crab and Shrimp and other delicious bottom feeders. I rarely eat them, but they're so good. Right now I've started on pork. It's the easiest, so I started with it first. Then I'll move to meat/cheese, and finally bottom feeders. I think I can do it, especially once I move somewhere better than here. I do forget that the health food stores offer much more kosher items than the devil. (Wal Mart) xd I end up getting meatless stuff a lot of the time so I can keep kosher. I've never tried pork, so I can't say I miss it. That's probably a really helpful bit if you grew up in a Jewish family- I wouldn't have tried all this stuff so I wouldn't care. xp
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darkphoenix1247 Vice Captain
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 12:51 pm
I had pork once before my conversion.
I could not stop vomiting. Seriously.
In retrospect, I think that was my inner Jew screaming for me to NEVER touch that nasty stuff again!
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 12:59 pm
Lovecraftian Girlfriend I had pork once before my conversion. I could not stop vomiting. Seriously. In retrospect, I think that was my inner Jew screaming for me to NEVER touch that nasty stuff again! Haha, I have never liked pork much, besides perhaps ham every once in awhile. Like I said, it's the easiest because I don't care for it.
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 1:11 pm
Oh! Hey OP! I found a Kosher food site that delivers nationwide. I'm not sure if it's in your price range or whatever, but it's worth looking at... http://www.parkeastkosher.com
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 1:24 pm
Lovecraftian Girlfriend Oh! Hey OP! I found a Kosher food site that delivers nationwide. I'm not sure if it's in your price range or whatever, but it's worth looking at... http://www.parkeastkosher.com A tad expensive for me, but thanks. Once I get some better work, and a place of my own, I'll be able to afford it. For now I'll stick to eating my attempt at kosher (no pork, no meat with cheese, etc).
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 6:46 pm
well i'm in the military and there aren't vary many Jews in the Air Force. there were a lot of people who had never seen a Jewish person before they met me. so you can imagen the problems i have.
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 8:27 pm
Maxter well i'm in the military and there aren't vary many Jews in the Air Force. there were a lot of people who had never seen a Jewish person before they met me. so you can imagen the problems i have. One of my girls is in the Army, and she's trying to eat kosher so that she can understand how I eat (she's Pagan, not Jewish), and there's pretty much no real kosher food served.
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Eloquent Conversationalist
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 8:12 am
kingpinsqeezels *Raises hand half way* There are Jews here. "Several" families, according to the paper. I have a very hard time keeping kosher though, not only because of my soft spot for cheeseburgers, but also because NOTHING in this town is certified kosher. It's so ridiculous. The kosher section of Wal Mart has matzah and like...salt. I live in a big city with a metric ###-load of Jews, but I often visit my mother in a small, not-very-Jewish town far to the west of here, or my other relatives in a tiny little place in the middle of an entire STATE that is classified as the middle of nowhere. In those places, it's hard to find anyone who knows what kosher even means, let alone find a section of a store devoted to kosher items. However, you CAN find kosher foods there. Kellogg's cereals that have a plain K on the packaging are reliably kosher (they're one of the very few companies in the world in which the plain K actually means anything; most companies just put it on there, without having any idea what it means). Del Monte canned vegetables with the Triangle K are reliably kosher. Fresh-frozen vegetables with no "seasonings" or "flavorings" or sauces are acceptable to use. Starkist, Bumblebee, and other brands of canned salmon or tuna are usually marked with the OU (bit U inside a circle), which means they're kosher. Weight Watchers puts out breads, bagels, muffins, and little snack cakes that are all kosher dairy. It's hard to find breads that are kosher, if there's no kosher bakery, but the Weight Watchers breads are fine. According to most authorities, Minhag Amerika (the custom for North America, outside Mexico) is that plain milk (not chocolate or other flavored; not ice cream or yogurt; not buttermilk, for some reason; just plain ordinary drinking milk) is perfectly acceptable. However, if you want to be strict about chalav Yisrael (having milk that has been watched/supervised by a kosher authority from milking to market), look for "chalav Yisrael" on the label. It may appear in Hebrew; someone with a Hebrew font on their computer, please show people what this looks like. Juices that are 100% juice -- no sweeteners, no additional flavorings -- and do not contain grape, grapefruit, prune, or tomato, are acceptable, though if you can find juice with a hechsher on it, that's preferred. The world is full of kosher foods. It's just that they're also "mainstream" foods, so people don't think of them as kosher. Your cabinet probably has a lot of kosher foods already in it. Go through them and see for yourself. Look for a hechsher (a symbol of a reliable kashrut agency) on the label. You can find the reliable hechsherim here: http://crcweb.org/kosher/consumer/Agency_List.htmlor here: http://www.kashrusmagazine.comTrue, it's very hard to find kosher meats and cheeses, the further you get from large Jewish populations. But if there's even one synagogue anywhere near you, phone them up and ask them if they can order them for you. They'll usually be thrilled to do so. They'll probably also have some other congregants who also want those things. I bring a cooler full of those things for myself when I visit places I don't know, but you may have to drive (or get someone to drive you) to the synagogue to pick up kosher meats such as Empire or Aaron's, and kosher cheeses such as HaOlam and Miller's, once the synagogue has ordered them and has let you know that they've arrived. Order a lot; bring a cooler; stick it all in the freezer until you need it. They'll keep indefinitely.
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