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 Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 12:44 am
So, you know the movie Jackass. It stars Johnny Knoxville and a group of guys who do stunts for fun. I happen to think that this movie is really funny but sometimes the stunts they do harm others or other's stuff. Now, from a Buddhist standpoint is this frowned upon? My Mom says it depends on my limtations. Where do I draw the line? What do you think?
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Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 5:59 am
I'd say yeah, it's frowned upon. They're willfully and knowingly causing others more unneeded anguish, either physically or emotionally. The second they dissolve into giggle fits over the idea of breaking something of someone else's, hurting someone, or even laughing at each other's failed stunts and the pain they cause, they're immediately lacking compassion. And right mindfulness. And right livelihood, given they make money from directly harming other people.
Of course, I could also play Mara's advocate on this one, and claim that while the stuff they do does hurt other people, there's a chance they could have the unexpected benefit of causing someone to reexamine their attachment to their things and physical form, and in the end make them happier for having been hurt/lost something they worked hard for.
Your mom's right. It really is a personal stand - at what point do the things the Jackass kids do make you feel they've crossed a line? Our opinions will, in general, make little to no difference. It's how you feel about it that will, and why you feel that way. 3nodding
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Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 1:22 pm
Great advice! Thanks for helping! biggrin
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 8:48 am
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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 9:56 pm
Sorry this reply is kinda late!!
I'd say most definitely frowned upon... In Buddhism we are constantly trying to gain knowledge and be a peace with ourselves and others and I think most of what Jackass does works against that. However, They're just kids having fun. So who knows? That's my personal opinion... Even though i can't help laughing at some stunts.
Good luck Raven
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 7:42 pm
I've only seen small clips of the movie and show but I believe it would be frowned upon from a Buddhist standpoint. The stunts they intentionally pull always end up harming themselves or another's property and for what? Kicks.
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 6:45 am
I'm going to try to play Devil's Advocate here. Unfortunately, it forces me to take a Zen viewpoint, which I admit I'm not completely in tune with.
Their actions are inspired and rarely filtered through the mind; they are highly impulsive. While this doesn't result in acts of compassion, it does seem to represent a form of action with little or no attachment to thought, ego, self, etc. If they were self-absorbed, one could argue, they would be trying to *not* get hurt, and as such the act of trying to hurt oneself can be seen as a direct opposition to this attachment. Seeming to not care whether or not you get hurt, then, could be seen as the middle road.
In regards to hurting or disturbing others, it certainly isn't an act of direct compassion. But what it does do is present these people with an ultimately absurd situation. By trying to filter the absurdity in the mind, and trying to make sense of their perceptions, these "victims" cause their own suffering merely by trying to adhere to the commonplace, everyday views. To understand nonattachment in this case would be to be able to view such absurdity and be unaffected by it.
Grarg, that was horrible. I wish I could find a better way to phrase that argument.
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 6:43 am
Well, I've laughed my a** off a share of times at that movie. sweatdrop
It's definitely a bad thing to get pleasure from others misfortune, but the problem is, it's oh so common that it is that way. While you aren't harming another, you are .. sort of endorsing that sort of behavior. And of course, there's the old saying, you get out what you put in. So, if you're filling your head with s**t, you'll get s**t. sweatdrop Perhaps I'm missing the question. xd Honestly, it is a boundary sort of thing, however, in my opinion, it's not a good practice. It's hard to give a straight answer. confused
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