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WingsofMorphius

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 6:56 am


I know she's not the most popular character, but I adore Dani! I love how she's so cute and spunky, as well as her refreshing innocence and naive nature. Plus her and Danny's relationship is so fun and sweet! xd

Feel free to tlak about Dani and what you Like/Dislike about her. I love hearing other people's opinions!
PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 12:23 pm


She's cute, but not necessary which is probably why I don't care too much for her. Plus, I really can't understand how she came into being, and I'm one of those people that has a need to understand everything.

Refreshing innocence and naïve nature? That's how I think of Danny. I like how they're a lot alike. They didn't really interact all that much, so I can't say what I think of their relationship. It didn't seem too different from how he relates to Sam or Tucker, though.

I suppose I could assume she's just a younger, female Danny. It was interesting how she instinctively didn't like Dash, but then that makes me wonder if she's also instinctively attracted to girls.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 8:28 am


^^ They didn't get too in depth about her creation, I think Butch decided to leave that to the fans to explain, and I've heard some really interesting theories about it.

Actually, I believe Dani and Danny are similar but not the same. Danny's naive, but not to the same level that Dani is, since she hasn't yet seemed to fully grasp the fact that not everyone she meets can be fully trusted. She also seems more playful then Danny, and more likely to use her powers for a quick laugh. As for Dash... 'shrugs' My theory there is that neither Phantoms are fond of bullies. Besides, while Dani is something of a tomboy, she also seems to have girlish qualities that Danny does not possess.
PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 6:24 pm


Danny's a little too trusting of people himself. Trust is what landed him his ghost powers in the first place, after all. Honestly, I think Danny's the most innocent character in the show, taking age into proportion, of course.

The only difference between the two is their physical and mental ages. Danny was probably just like Danielle at age 12. Danielle will probably be just like Danny when she's "14."

But...I wonder how Danielle will turn out without parents to raise her?

On a more random note, Danielle in her human form kind of looks like Melody from The Little Mermaid II.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 6:20 am


I don't think that's was a trust issue as much as it was curiosity combined with stupidity... sweatdrop You know, one of those 'famous last words' moments (Come on, what's the worse that could happen?) Danny is innocent, but I still think he's far more wary of others then Dani, who put blind trust into both Valerie and Vlad and got betrayed by both of them (Valerie came back to save her, but still...) Also, whereas Danny seems shy and content with lying low, Dani seems a little more bold, the kind of girl who enjoys the spotlight being on her and who offers no apologies for who and how she is.

As far as the orphan thing goes, I've actually been kind of wondering that myself. The way I see it, there are a few options that could occur there. One is that Dani is discovered family-less in the human world and put into foster care, another is that she decides to live in the ghost zone, where noone could care less if she was on her own. (It also explains why she was there when Danny needed ghosts to help make the world intangible.) and the third is that she somehow manages to survive on her own off the streets and gets tougher because of it.

I genuinely doubt Dani will be willing to go live with the Fentons, out of both pride and the desire to be her own person, and not just Danny's clone. Danny also seems to respect this, even though he worries about her. (as seen at the end of D-Stabilized.)

I actually noticed that too XD It's kinda creepy, since Ariel looks like Jazz and Danny looks like Eric.

...I try not to think too hard about that...
PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 10:45 am


Why, because then you'd be sort of pairing Danny and Jazz together with a daughter who's actually Danny's clone? Yeah, I guess that'd be messed up. Great, now I really wish I could draw so I can draw DP characters as Disney characters. I guess I'll just have to pay someone to draw it for me. Again.

Trust is a big part of curiosity. It's one thing to be curious about what's inside a sealed box. It's another to trust that whatever's inside this box won't hurt you if open it. If you trust that it's a harmless gift, you'll open it. If you suspect it's a bomb or a virus that'll kill you if you breathe it in, you won't open it. Danny stupidly decided to trust that going inside this ghost portal he knew nothing about wouldn't hurt him.

I'm not saying they're like each other now. They're two years apart. I'll bet Danny used to have a lot of confidence in himself when he was 12, like Danielle does now, and when that confidence started to slip as it always done when one becomes a teenager and enters the dreaded "identity versus role confusion" stage, he started to become more cautious of people who could potentially hurt him. Of course, that's not always the case. I was shocked when he so easily trusted Dash and Paulina in Reality Trip. That could've been a huge trap (I was reminded of The Princess Diaries). And now that his secret is out to everybody, there'll be a lot more people who'll try to use and trick him.

Besides, he seriously thinks he's going to be astronaut. What's more innocent than that?

Back to Danielle, she's still a "pre-teen." She appears to be in the stage below Danny's, "industry versus inferiority." She has active curiosity and is overly sure of of how she relates to others, and that's why she ends up putting too much trust into people. She wants recognition and praise for what she does ("and you're welcome"). She always tried to impress Vlad when she was on his side before, even asking him directly if she did well. Danny's past this stage while Danielle is still going through it, and that's why they're currently different. She does show some characteristics of the next stage, but not enough to actually place her there.

Not to say one can't be in a stage that isn't exactly part of his age group. Vlad's still in the young adult stage of "intimacy versus isolation" when he should be with Jack and Maddie in "generativity versus stagnation."

I guess it just depends on where she wants to be. If she wants to live in the human world, then she'll definitely need adult help so that she can learn more about how the world works. She'll definitely need to learn things about stuff like banking, economics, politics, English, and, of course, sex education, though I wonder how she'll deal with sex education knowing that that's not how she was created. Then, if she wants a career, she'll definitely have to go to school.

She's very adorable, though. Danielle's someone I would like to have for a sister, though that'd be a problem because I already have a sister named Dani (though her real name is Danelle, not Danielle).

Sorry for all the psychosocial stuff I threw in. It just seemed like the best way to describe what I was thinking. I'm not a psychology nut, I swear! sweatdrop Oh, no! Now I'm using a defense mechanism!

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 6:27 pm


Yeah, I definately know where you're coming from, since I'm something of a psych nut myself. I agree with what you're saying, though I still strongly suspect that Dani and Danny will get more and more different from each other as time goes on, due to the whole 'nurture vs nature' thing.

AAs for Paulina and Dash... I think that's being a little unfiar to them. I mean, sure there'll be people who will try and get close to Danny because of his fame, but I doubt they're among them. After all, Paulina fell in love with Danny before he was even cleared in the public's eyes, and Dash was always spouting off his admiration of Danny Phantom for being a hero. I believe that, for those two at least, thier loyalties to Danny are genuine.

I agree about wanting Dani for a little sister, btw. coming form a family where i'm an only girl, I could definately use the company...
PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 2:45 pm


I said I'm not a pyschology nut! scream I don't think the nurture aspect will play much of a part in her personality. She's already kind of old. She'll learn differently, but if she really is a clone of Danny, she would still almost exactly like him except different.

I wasn't saying that Paulina and Dash weren't genuine. I'm just saying that Danny should've been a bit more wary rather than just "Wow, you're going to help me? How nice of you!" considering his history with them. Sort of like how he probably wouldn't have trusted Valerie even though he knew she really liked him as Fenton.

As for people who will try to get close to Danny because of his fame, that's not exactly why I would worry for him. Despite all of the good he's done, there will definitely be people who hate him, and now that everyone knows who he is and where he lives...then again, it's a cartoon universe.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 9:37 am


sweatdrop I heard, I heard! I just meant to say that I was, so I don't mind psychological profiles of characters.

I disagree. I don't think people ever really stop 'growing up.' I mean, look how much Danny has matured since Mystery Meat, and other characters like Valerie and Jazz have really grown up throughout the series as well. (Or down in Jazz's case, if one considers TFM xd ) And I think the severe differences between how they're living and what they're fighting for will lead to more differences between Dani and Danny's characters. After all, Danny fights more to protect those he cares about while Dani seems to be fighting more for survival. It's true that sometimes one or the other will fight for the other reason as well, but I think the fact that these are their main reasons for fighting is an important factor to consider.

Also, I think the age difference and the fact that Dani was 'born' with her powers where Danny gained them through an accident is important as well. Danny often freaks out about his powers, and is more cautious about using them in public, whereas Dani automatically accepts it as who she is, and has not yet grasped the fact that her powers are strange to humans so she's more careless then her cousin. Dani strikes me as being more blunt then her cousin, less afraid of other people's opinions of her since she didn't grow up among humans and is less aware of how she is and is not supposed to act towards others. Plus she also seems to have a devious side, which seems to come from overexposure to Vlad (It's true! How do you think Maddie the Cat turned all fat and evil!) So there is no doubt in my mind that she and Danny will have some personality traits that are similar, but enough differences that each is their own person.
PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 11:42 am


Eh, I was kidding. I just get kind of edgy about it since my friends are convinced that I should become a psychiatrist, and I have to keep telling them to dream on.

It's not really so much a matter of "growing up." It's more of a matter of how you learn things. What I mean is that Danielle, if she really is a clone, was already created with Danny's learning skills and capabilities, and so she should respond to and absorb information in the same way Danny would. She'll be a different person because she'll be faced with different situations, but her personality would still mirror Danny's because she started life at a more advanced age already "programmed" with specific genetic information. Of course, since this is a cartoon universe containing a lot of unrealistic logic, this could be argued. After all, if she really was Danny's clone, she'd be his age and, well, male.

We don't know if she automatically accepted her powers as who she is. We weren't there when she was created. She most likely did because she probably wasn't told that they weren't normal and common to everyone, but we can't say for sure. She'll definitely be a unique and separate person, but she'll always have Danny's genetic information regardless. She'll still take in events and situations in the same way Danny does.

It does really come down to nature versus nurture in the end, but since they obviously both play a big part in our lives, we won't know anything about Danielle unless Nick decides to continue the series with her as a bigger character or if she gets her own series.

A devious side? Er...I definitely can see what you mean, especially since Danny has one as well, but I haven't really paid much attention to that about her, I guess. Do you have an example?

My posts keep turning out way longer than I want them to...oh, look. I just added another paragraph. Well, more gold for me, then.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 7:47 am


^^ That's cool... My parents are still trying to convince me to get into nursing or teaching, in spite of my interests and desires, so I totally know what that's like... scream

As far as Dani's devious side goes, I was refurring to the way Dani tricked Danny in Kindred Spirits. Especially after the fight with the clone, where Dani pretended to faint to get out of having to answer Danny's questions, again when she pranked Sam and Tucker and suggested she prank Dash, and then a third time when she and Danny were 'racing.' There are probably more too, but those are whe ones I really remember.
PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:22 am


What do you want to be, then? Just out of curiosity.

Oh, yeah! Now I remember. Good stuff in that episode, yup. She's such a kid.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 6:04 am


I wanna get into Video Game Animation and Design. I plan to write a book, too...
PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:41 am


Do you actually want to script and write the story of a game, or would you just animate and design it? Or do those jobs go together? I guess I'm just thinking of how an animated movie gets made. sweatdrop I don't know if it's a similar process or not.

Have you started your book yet?

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:32 am


I apologize for breaking your guys' "A-B conversation" but I just wanted to state that I love Danielle! I think that she'll turn out differently than Danny, because of her history. She's been basically betrayed since her "birth" and I think she knows she can't trust anyone. But because Danny has that trait that allows forgiveness and love, I think she'll be alright. But I believe that she'll be different than Danny Phantom. Not to mention, she did get her powers earlier on than Danny.
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