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 Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 1:13 am
This is something that's been bothering me especially lately because I really only have theories that may or may not approximate the answer. We've seen Haku and his ability to pass through mirrors, there's the Hyuga and the Uchiha byakugan and sharingan and then there is always Kimimaro's Shikotsumyaku. All we know is that these bloodlines are genetic, but that could mean a lot. So...
arrow Were bloodlines evolutionary developing over a period of several centuries?
arrow Did they just appear one day in the clan as a mutation?
arrow Or, as I've seen in several fanfictions, could they be the result of demon blood?
Discuss.
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 8:04 am
hm ive neva thot of that b4
u bring up a realy good point but im not sure
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 10:55 am
I've been thinking that a lot myself. I can come up with no logical answer.....
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 11:32 am
I remember Yamato and Kakashi explained it a little to Naruto when they got back from their mission with Sai. Kekkei Genkai techniques are created when one clan uses two different types of nature chakra and combine them to create, whatever. But I'm not sure about byakugan and shikotsumyaku. Their jutsu's don't seem to fit that description.
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 12:04 pm
Hm, not really sure. It's passed down through the genes somehow, but I don't really have a solid explanation on how it got started. It could quite possibly be through adaptation, though.
Since each family is a clan, they all have the same ability. It's possible that these clans once used their ability for something, such as to live or to perform a specific job. Maybe a long time ago, the clan was assigned a specific job that the entire family was obiligated to do, so to make the job easier, a jutsu was developed.
It's also possible that a mutation caused the bloodline. Or perhaps there was a child born with it because each parent was a carrier for the gene, or one parent had the dominant gene for it. Maybe somewhere down the line these people were isolated and separated into groups, forming clans. Since each person had the dominant gene for the bloodline, their offspring did as well. This would explain how they are able to reproduce without complications.
Doing this would also contain the gene, explaining why it's difficult to find others with a specific trait (ie., Byakugan) in another village unless there is a branch there, or a person from the clan has traveled.
It sort of seems resonable, especially if the separation of clans happened many, many years ago. It's like segregation in our world. Perhaps it started out that people with the bloodlines were treated differently than others, so they were separated into groups. Not that they were treated badly, just differently. Eventually time went on and the villages modernized, producing what we see today.
Bah, sorry. I like biology. :B
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 7:53 pm
I think it is a mix of evolution and mutations. Early in the series it says that the Hyuuga clan where the oldest clan in Konoha and the sharingan evolved from the byakugan. So the sharingan could have been a mutation.
The laws of physics in the real world and the Naruto world are slightly different and chakara seems to be a force inherent in most people, with people like Lee being the exceptions. It could have been that thousands of years ago in the Naruto world people had chakara in them and gradually became aware of their ability to manipulate it. They then discovered things like elements and that elements seemed to be inherited from generation to generation. Ninjas are only successful with techniques that match their element, so if elements are inherited then it would make sense that parents would teach their children jutsus that they made up and pass those down throughout the years.
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 8:16 pm
True, especially about the Byakugan/Sharingan thing. All I can assume is different things cause different bloodlines, because they all have such a wide variety of effects and types.
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 3:49 pm
I wondered about that briefly one time, but never really bothered to scratch more than the thick surface.
Logically, my guess is it would be something between a mutation, and gradually developing. Like, a few clan members were born with some type of genetic mutation, then they had kids, and they had the genetic mutation, to a point where the Uchiha clan became seperate, and it developed from there.
...That sounded kinda confusing, but it makes sense. In a logical-crackish kinda way. xD
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--The Trusty Sidekick-- Captain
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Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 12:33 pm
This is how I have evaluated the origin of bloodlines in Naruto.
I believe that its sort of like a race of humans. There are humans, and then there are the 'gifted' humans. Something like a mutation in the DNA and RNA of a human. Think of it as kind of like X-Men. They are humans, and share human-esque DNA and RNA. But they have that one Mutation that makes them a different race.
So I look at a clan as a race in its own. The Uchiha's have the Sharingan, that makes them human; but a race in their own. They stick together because they are most powerful around eachother. Not like they are outcasted, but honored because they are different. They are their own race I believe.
A mutation that not everyone gets.
I dont believe that its Demon blood. Probably because Im so partial to that theory because Im bias. I watch a show called Supernatural, and they have that effect of demon blood. Even though its a TOTALLY different show, and different story line, it still makes my opinion on the matter bias.
As for evolutionary, I think that the Bloodline has evolved, but I dont think that everyone can get it. Ya know. I think that goes with the mutation theory. You have to be a certain race [clan] to be able to devolpe the ability of a bloodline.
But again; this is all in theory. They will probably have an episode, where they are fighting someone like. Or its going to be against Itachi and Sasuke, and they are going to be wondering 'hmm, about bloodlines' and the origin will be answered. But until then, they want to keep us Narutards guessing.
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 6:43 am
Well, I don't think it was demon blood, but I actualy think that it was a combonation of evolution, mutation, and because this is the most reliable answer, breeding, I say breeding because of arranged marriages, because of strongest with strongest, and mutation/evolution because the mutated with enhanced abilities breed together and create stronger abiklities, thats why Hinata was disowned in a way, because she wasn't strong enough, and to continue the byakugan (sorry for spelling) needs to have a strong holder to make the next generation even more powerful, and thats why incest is used in many clans, to purify thier bloodlines, and to make thier unique, within the clan, abilities stronger. do not support incest by the way, it's just the way it is, I also do not like arranged marriages, I am just trying to explain how it works, well the reason for inbreeding, and a theroy for the bloodline limits.
-that was a bit long sweatdrop sorry
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 8:16 pm
hmm i never really thought about it, but now that i am im curious, maby its something the clans created them selves to have more/better power over a certin tecnique that eventuly just evolved into a genetic trait throught the clan.
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:50 am
I think it's a mix of evolution and mutation. Mutation to begin with (and get the bloodline started) and it evolves over time...like with the Byakugan and Sharingan.
I also lean towards mutation because mutated genes tend to degenerate rather quickly. Hence why Kakashi asks Itachi how his eyes have been/are, (Episode 12 of Shippuuden I believe). Kakashi's comment leads me to believe that the supposed mutated genes that give the Uchiha clan Sharingan will sooner or later (sooner with more use) cause the user to go blind altogether.
I don't take much stock in the demonic blood theory because in the Naruto universe, demons tend to be solely spirits incarnate, (and in cases like Naruto and Gaara) the demon shares no actual blood with the Jinchuuriki so really there is not blood to passed down.
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Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 10:06 pm
I have a theory that also when families start inbreeding, it creates a lot of mutations after several generations. So its something they could have planned! Its just a theory, cuz throughout history whenever that happened people started getting deformed, so it could have 'deformed' them in a different way.
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Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 10:14 pm
I'd guess, that since the majority of the people in "naruto land" don't have special abilties - the blood line thing might have started from demon mixing and then later evolved into more refined bloodlines - biggrin
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Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 11:27 pm
I'm guessing the Darwin survival of the fittest theory. In the old times with the big ninja wars, the ones that came back were the strongest ones. So if you had slightly increased vision range or something, that would tend to give you an edge. So they breed and get slightly better range and so on and so forth.
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