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 Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 7:53 pm
Well, I'm thinking of joining (boy oh boy would I love to be part of a Merkava crew), does anyone from Israel happen to know what the standards for entry are?
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Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 6:10 pm
I can get the info for you if you want, do you want it in general or for the merkava?
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Posted: Thu May 31, 2007 7:34 pm
Both, if you could. smile I know there's some sort of scoring system, or whatever. And I was told you have to have a score of 65+ to join, 85+ to be in a combat brigade. But any details you can get would be appreciated.
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Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 2:43 pm
Dis Domnu Both, if you could. smile I know there's some sort of scoring system, or whatever. And I was told you have to have a score of 65+ to join, 85+ to be in a combat brigade. But any details you can get would be appreciated. Yeah, those scores are what the army calls a "Profile". Most people get somewhere between 80-90, the highest being 97. The lowest Profile you can get is 21, which basically means you're either retarded, suicidal, or severely mentally challenged. In any event, it means you can't serve xp . The Profile score is based on your Intelligence, body skills, medical records, education, vision (if you have glasses, if it's not a severe case, all you get is a note saying you can't join the air force), social skills (they interview you for this), literate skills, etc... Most people who are mentally and physically fit make it above the 85, so unless you have something serious you should make it.
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Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 3:35 pm
My only major health defect is that I have only one kidney.
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Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 4:09 pm
nathan_ngl Yeah, those scores are what the army calls a "Profile". Most people get somewhere between 80-90, the highest being 97. The lowest Profile you can get is 21, which basically means you're either retarded, suicidal, or severely mentally challenged. In any event, it means you can't serve xp . The Profile score is based on your Intelligence, body skills, medical records, education, vision (if you have glasses, if it's not a severe case, all you get is a note saying you can't join the air force), social skills (they interview you for this), literate skills, etc... Most people who are mentally and physically fit make it above the 85, so unless you have something serious you should make it. Does that mean you can't join if you have really bad vision? And to Dis Domnu: Good luck joining, and stay safe. There's a lot of bad things out there, which I'm sure you know more than I do, but be careful.
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darkphoenix1247 Vice Captain
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 1:00 am
darkphoenix1247 nathan_ngl Yeah, those scores are what the army calls a "Profile". Most people get somewhere between 80-90, the highest being 97. The lowest Profile you can get is 21, which basically means you're either retarded, suicidal, or severely mentally challenged. In any event, it means you can't serve xp . The Profile score is based on your Intelligence, body skills, medical records, education, vision (if you have glasses, if it's not a severe case, all you get is a note saying you can't join the air force), social skills (they interview you for this), literate skills, etc... Most people who are mentally and physically fit make it above the 85, so unless you have something serious you should make it. Does that mean you can't join if you have really bad vision? And to Dis Domnu: Good luck joining, and stay safe. There's a lot of bad things out there, which I'm sure you know more than I do, but be careful. If you have really harsh vision problems, like 1/6 vision and 10 field view angle or something you'd probably get a large amount of points reduced, though I doubt they'd disqualify you entirely. Every little problem has it's serial number, and each one is worth a certain amount of points. And to Dis Domnu: I don't know how much they'd take off for that one, you'd have to ask. Was it taken out due to a defect or did you donate?
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 8:20 am
It was taken out because of a birth complication.
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 5:25 pm
Dis Domnu It was taken out because of a birth complication. Okay, it doesn't seem like anything too serious. You'd have to bring your medical files with you when get tested, and declare any surgeries you went through... I'm sure that if that's the only thing wrong, you'd do fine. If it was a dysfunctional liver, on the other hand... sweatdrop ...
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 6:26 pm
Nah, I'm pretty healthy. I've been preparing to join the IDF for years now. I'm sure I'll get in, and with luck into a Merkava brigade.
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 8:16 am
nathan_ngl The Profile score is based on your Intelligence, body skills, medical records, education, vision (if you have glasses, if it's not a severe case, all you get is a note saying you can't join the air force)
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 12:11 pm
I'm afraid there's a mix-up.
It's roughly divided in two types of standards:
Health profile (physical AND mental health): how healthy you are. The profile could either be 21 (inadequate, released from service), 24 (temporarily inadequate), 31 (special profile for people who got profile 21 but chose to volunteer), 35, 45, 64 (adequate only for service in combat support units), 72, 77, 82, 97 (adequate for serving in a combat unit). There's no profile 85 or things like that, and those are the only profile numbers out there (as of right now).
"Quality group" ("kaba"): determined by how well you did in the psycho-technical test, your education, your understanding of Hebrew and their impression of you after you've been interviewed (only boys are interviewed. During the interview, the interviewer is trying to predict your ability to adjust to the system and conditions). "Kaba" (acronym for Kvutzat eichut, quality group) scores 41-42 mean you're inadequate for army service, and it's quite rare. If your "kaba" score is 52+, you could be an officer and the Air Force & Intelligence Corps are going to give you some interesting suggestions.
"Olim" (new immigrants) who don't speak Hebrew very well will go through their recruit training ("tironut") in a camp called Michva Alon in the northern part of the country (near Karmiel, if the name means anything to you), where their special needs as newcomers are being taken care of. By the way, I have a former classmate and a best friend who are commanders at this base and I got to visit it once - it's a great place, and you'd be lucky to have those girls with you if you happen to join the army this year.
If you have any more questions about this, and IDF in general, I'd be glad to help you out. I'm going back to the base tomorrow and I might only get out at the 29th, but I hope it will be worth your while. smile
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 1:01 pm
Well, I was directed to the Mahal by someone, and that seems like the place I'd probably be enlisting with.
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 8:47 pm
Dis Domnu Well, I was directed to the Mahal by someone, and that seems like the place I'd probably be enlisting with. Good luck. Take care and all. smile
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 9:03 pm
Im A Little Pea Dis Domnu Well, I was directed to the Mahal by someone, and that seems like the place I'd probably be enlisting with. Good luck. Take care and all. smile Hehehe. Well, I'm not joining for another two years at least. So, this was just to check to see if my medical problems would bar me.
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