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 Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 12:30 pm
I saw the AlmightyBeanDip's request for this and I like things anciently military, so ... Here's a link to an on-line copy of Frontinus' Strategmata. I wanted to create a subforum for it, but maybe as a lowly *sniffle* Crew member, I can't.
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Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 5:11 pm
DeeFarnham I saw the AlmightyBeanDip's request for this and I like things anciently military, so ... Here's a link to an on-line copy of Frontinus' Strategmata. I wanted to create a subforum for it, but maybe as a lowly *sniffle* Crew member, I can't. Holy Fishpaste! I thought it was just my testosterone talking... Is it really that good idea? Wow... But yea, basically what I thought about was basically how they formulated their tactics, the formations of their positions, ancient weaponry and its flaws (except Greek Fire has no flaws.. BUAHAHAHAHA!), ect.
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Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 7:46 am
mrgreen
Victor Davis Hanson has a very interesting book, The Western Way of War: Infantry Battle in Classical Greece. I don't much care for his politics but he's an excellent military historian. He describes being a hoplite in the 5th century BC very well, and talks about experiments done at a school in California in which students donned replica armor and tried to duplicate the Greek charge at Marathon. It ain't easy. (Hanson says to understand the hoplite you need to put on armor that weighs half your body weight and then, just to make it even better, put a bronze bucket on your head.)
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 11:38 am
I am totally psyched to explore this site (THANKS!!!) and I am also going to get that book. I love military history, and especially that of ancient greece so this is like a dream book for me. I have read similar but this one seems like it will have some fun new information for me.
*and BeanDip is totally right, Greek Fire rocks!! I just wish we could figure out what its made of*
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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:12 pm
The Spartan Dieneces I am totally psyched to explore this site (THANKS!!!) and I am also going to get that book. I love military history, and especially that of ancient greece so this is like a dream book for me. I have read similar but this one seems like it will have some fun new information for me. *and BeanDip is totally right, Greek Fire rocks!! I just wish we could figure out what its made of* Urine >_>
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 6:39 am
TheAlmightyBeanDip The Spartan Dieneces I am totally psyched to explore this site (THANKS!!!) and I am also going to get that book. I love military history, and especially that of ancient greece so this is like a dream book for me. I have read similar but this one seems like it will have some fun new information for me. *and BeanDip is totally right, Greek Fire rocks!! I just wish we could figure out what its made of* Urine >_> Truly? <_< That's one ingredient I hadn't heard, but what the heck.
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Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 8:40 pm
DeeFarnham TheAlmightyBeanDip The Spartan Dieneces I am totally psyched to explore this site (THANKS!!!) and I am also going to get that book. I love military history, and especially that of ancient greece so this is like a dream book for me. I have read similar but this one seems like it will have some fun new information for me. *and BeanDip is totally right, Greek Fire rocks!! I just wish we could figure out what its made of* Urine >_> Truly? <_< That's one ingredient I hadn't heard, but what the heck. If you'd know about Mediterranean foods, you'd know that olive oil is in alot of their dishes. Most likely, with the amount of olive oil they consume, it'd come as no surprise to me that some of it would be found in their urine. Urine is easily accessible and in great sum. It's the perfect ingredient for a everlasting flaming rock biggrin
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 9:31 am
TheAlmightyBeanDip DeeFarnham TheAlmightyBeanDip The Spartan Dieneces I am totally psyched to explore this site (THANKS!!!) and I am also going to get that book. I love military history, and especially that of ancient greece so this is like a dream book for me. I have read similar but this one seems like it will have some fun new information for me. *and BeanDip is totally right, Greek Fire rocks!! I just wish we could figure out what its made of* Urine >_> Truly? <_< That's one ingredient I hadn't heard, but what the heck. If you'd know about Mediterranean foods, you'd know that olive oil is in alot of their dishes. Most likely, with the amount of olive oil they consume, it'd come as no surprise to me that some of it would be found in their urine. Urine is easily accessible and in great sum. It's the perfect ingredient for a everlasting flaming rock biggrin Ah, O BeanDip, I do know about the consumption of oliveoil in the Mediterranean world, indeed, I'm a great devotee of the stuff myself. I don't think the oil makes it through the digestive system into the kidneys and thence into the urine, though. That would mean that there's undigested olive oil circulating with the blood, which I find highly unlikely.
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 11:19 am
DeeFarnham TheAlmightyBeanDip DeeFarnham TheAlmightyBeanDip The Spartan Dieneces I am totally psyched to explore this site (THANKS!!!) and I am also going to get that book. I love military history, and especially that of ancient greece so this is like a dream book for me. I have read similar but this one seems like it will have some fun new information for me. *and BeanDip is totally right, Greek Fire rocks!! I just wish we could figure out what its made of* Urine >_> Truly? <_< That's one ingredient I hadn't heard, but what the heck. If you'd know about Mediterranean foods, you'd know that olive oil is in alot of their dishes. Most likely, with the amount of olive oil they consume, it'd come as no surprise to me that some of it would be found in their urine. Urine is easily accessible and in great sum. It's the perfect ingredient for a everlasting flaming rock biggrin Ah, O BeanDip, I do know about the consumption of oliveoil in the Mediterranean world, indeed, I'm a great devotee of the stuff myself. I don't think the oil makes it through the digestive system into the kidneys and thence into the urine, though. That would mean that there's undigested olive oil circulating with the blood, which I find highly unlikely. Hey, you never heard of the phrase "You are what you eat?" xd
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 8:03 am
TheAlmightyBeanDip DeeFarnham TheAlmightyBeanDip DeeFarnham TheAlmightyBeanDip The Spartan Dieneces I am totally psyched to explore this site (THANKS!!!) and I am also going to get that book. I love military history, and especially that of ancient greece so this is like a dream book for me. I have read similar but this one seems like it will have some fun new information for me. *and BeanDip is totally right, Greek Fire rocks!! I just wish we could figure out what its made of* Urine >_> Truly? <_< That's one ingredient I hadn't heard, but what the heck. If you'd know about Mediterranean foods, you'd know that olive oil is in alot of their dishes. Most likely, with the amount of olive oil they consume, it'd come as no surprise to me that some of it would be found in their urine. Urine is easily accessible and in great sum. It's the perfect ingredient for a everlasting flaming rock biggrin Ah, O BeanDip, I do know about the consumption of oliveoil in the Mediterranean world, indeed, I'm a great devotee of the stuff myself. I don't think the oil makes it through the digestive system into the kidneys and thence into the urine, though. That would mean that there's undigested olive oil circulating with the blood, which I find highly unlikely. Hey, you never heard of the phrase "You are what you eat?" xd Well, sure, but I still don't think there's olive oil floating around in one's blood stream. eek
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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 12:14 am
Of no relation to Greek Fire in particular, the ammonia and nitrates in Urine are handy dandy things if you're looking to make things explode. You can also derive saltpeter from it and potash, one third of the holy trinity that is gunpowder. I digress smile
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 7:30 am
Charley Of no relation to Greek Fire in particular, the ammonia and nitrates in Urine are handy dandy things if you're looking to make things explode. You can also derive saltpeter from it and potash, one third of the holy trinity that is gunpowder. I digress smile From Wiki, under "Fulling": In Roman times, fulling was conducted by slaves standing ankle deep in tubs of human urine and cloth. Urine was so important to the fulling business that urine was taxed. Urine (known as 'wash') was a source of ammonium salts, and assisted in cleansing the cloth.
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 1:11 pm
DeeFarnham Charley Of no relation to Greek Fire in particular, the ammonia and nitrates in Urine are handy dandy things if you're looking to make things explode. You can also derive saltpeter from it and potash, one third of the holy trinity that is gunpowder. I digress smile From Wiki, under "Fulling": In Roman times, fulling was conducted by slaves standing ankle deep in tubs of human urine and cloth. Urine was so important to the fulling business that urine was taxed. Urine (known as 'wash') was a source of ammonium salts, and assisted in cleansing the cloth. So the government would get money because of my own bodily fluids? Jeez, whatever happened to No Taxation Without Representation? I never agreed to such a tax...
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 7:13 pm
DeeFarnham From Wiki, under "Fulling": In Roman times, fulling was conducted by slaves standing ankle deep in tubs of human urine and cloth. Urine was so important to the fulling business that urine was taxed. Urine (known as 'wash') was a source of ammonium salts, and assisted in cleansing the cloth. Interestingly, no fullers pots were at pubs, because the quality of urine from a drinker isn't fit for wash purposes. The Romans also used urine for oral hygiene. MMMMM
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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 9:51 pm
Charley DeeFarnham From Wiki, under "Fulling": In Roman times, fulling was conducted by slaves standing ankle deep in tubs of human urine and cloth. Urine was so important to the fulling business that urine was taxed. Urine (known as 'wash') was a source of ammonium salts, and assisted in cleansing the cloth. Interestingly, no fullers pots were at pubs, because the quality of urine from a drinker isn't fit for wash purposes. The Romans also used urine for oral hygiene. MMMMM I thought that was supposedly the Spaniards?
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