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 Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 10:16 am
So my mom is a Transplant Coordinator- When a person is near death she goes out to see if they can be organ donators and if their family will let them. Today she got a call for a fetus (on the brink of birth) that has no brain. This condition is known as Hydrancephaly. Apparently the baby still has a brain stem which means that the baby can still breath and will be technically alive. However the baby will die shortly after birth. As my mom said " There isn't any hope for them". To see ultra sounds of this go Here (Not gross, I swear.) So let’s say you were pregnant. You were in the best of condition for this-mentally, physically, finically stable. Lets say you found out that your soon to be baby had no brain, would you abort it? In the second trimester, in the third? For you pro-lifers- do you think that a fetus without a brain is a live human being that should be giving a chance at life even though it will so die? Did you know that more people support the draft than mandatory organ donation after brain death? Would you donate organs? http://www.sharenj.org/
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Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 10:50 am
Speaking just for myself, this is one of the few cases where I would not object to abortion. However, IF I did not find out about the condition until late in the pregnancy (five months or more) I think after the first emotional reaction was over, I would opt to carry the baby full term so he/she could be used as a donor. If my baby MUST die, it would make me feel better to know that other babies would get a second chance at life because of it.
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Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 12:59 pm
Kinky Twinkie Did you know that more people support the draft than mandatory organ donation after brain death? God, some people are ******** stupid. Anyways, this is one instance where I would compare a fetus to a plant. When you have no brain activity, you're considered to be in a "vegetative" state. A fetus with no cerebrum can be considered likewise. Also: if you live in Upstate New York, go see UNYTS.org.
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Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 8:42 pm
I don't know, I don't think I would abort, but if it was going to die then abortion wouldn't be off-limits. Depending on when I found out about its brain, I would keep it for the donation, and to just hold it for a few moments...
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 3:58 am
That's really nice, in a very sad way... crying
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 6:18 am
The problem here isn't that it has no brain, it's that it's never going to be able to do anything. At an early enough stage, none of us have a brain, which doesn't give us any less right to live. However the difference is that eventually we will be able to live independantly.
Just like the difference between a person in a coma temporarily and one that will never come out of one.
And I'm completely for donating organs, all of mine will be donated.
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 6:10 am
If it's alive, it's alive. I don't really see the gray area here. also Quote: For you pro-lifers- do you think that a fetus without a brain is a live human being that should be giving a chance at life even though it will so die? kinda sounds like you're pro choice to me. Mind if i ask what brought you here?
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 10:35 pm
This is one of the cases I would support abortion. I'm not sure what I do but if it has no brain and shows no signs of devolping one it will most likly die anyways (you can't live without a brain) so it would be very hard choice to make.
If something happened to me I would donate my organs but I don't know If I would have the baby just for it to have it's organs donated, I be too upset to even think about it (mourning for the loss of a child), I might fall into depress for awhile.
I'm just be honest and thinking about that would happen or how I would feel in a stituation like that (but I won't really know unless that ever did happen).
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 3:53 pm
To me, this isn't even abortion. This is one of those cases where it actually is the removal of something that is essentially already dead.
As for mandatory organ donation, I do believe that it would be wrong to mandate such a thing. There are religious reasons for not wanting to donate organs, and you have to respect that, even if you don't agree with it. It's not actively hurting anyone else, after all.
I do believe that donating your organs is the right thing to do, but I don't believe that it should be mandatory.
(I also support the draft, but that gets off topic.)
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Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 11:43 pm
I'd probably carry it to term intact and then sign over organs for donation. I can't fathom how many infants would need organ donors at such an early stage but it must exist. And, I dunno, I used to work in animal shelters with animals that were doomed to die for many reasons. I always figured if I showed them affection before their death it would somehow help things. It probably doesn't stand up to scrutiny but before it died, even if it couldn't feel it, I'd at least like to give it a hug.
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Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 8:09 am
Awww... so much...sweetness here... It's so sad but... everyone cares about lives!
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 1:44 am
Personally, I would carry the baby to term. Only God can decide when to take my babies life. I'd spend as much time as I could before and after his/her death... then I'd allow their organs to be donated and then have him/her cremated.
When I die, I have asked that my organs be donated as well.
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Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 7:59 am
I would still carry it. Even if I only had the chance to hold the child for a few moments, it would be worth it. I've never heard of them using babies as donors, but I'm sure it must exsist.
I checked off the "Donate All My Organs" box on my health card.
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 2:19 pm
Here, I would not object to abortion either. The baby will die indefinitely. It does not have a brain, which means it does not have consciousness. I would end it's life as soon as I found out it had no brain. I would also donate my organs so that others may live.
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 11:41 pm
I think I would carry the baby to term - for two reasons. First, it's my personal feeling that it's not really up to me to decide when the baby's life should end, even if the child will die anyway. Second, if the baby's organs were in good shape, I would want them to be donated. It would be worth it to give someone else's child a chance at life.
As for me, I've told my parents that I would want my organs donated (and it says so on my driver's license 3nodding ).
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