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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 11:16 am


The underground, not the sandwiches. D:

So, hi. I'm addicted to finding magickal significance out of strange yet everyday things, and as such, I'm recently started thinking about building up a magickal system based on the subway, of all things. I'm pretty sure my fascination with the underground (the Glasgow Subway by the way, though I'd heart to go around on the London Underground someday <3) came from my dad's side of the family, since all the men there seem terminally fascinated with trains.

But yes'm, since I'm on the subway practically every day, and since that feeling of awe at it has never ceased, I want to find any and all existing material relating the Subway to Magick and vice versa. Anything. Everything. I'm talking concepts, ideas, random metaphors, movies and books, interesting parallels, experiences, gematric correspondances, info that could be put to use in magick -- anything like that at all. I realise the response to this will be pretty limited, but if I end up getting something going here, you'll have something nifty packed and ready for the next time you're on the subway. |D

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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 4:19 pm


How would this even work? Inturpretation of waves? The people inside it and how they react to your prospectice? It seems strange, but interesting, something to look into.

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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 7:39 pm


Subways are underground and they are transport systems. Perhaps that is symbolism of crossing from the world of the living to the world of the dead?

I hope that's what you're looking for. Maybe I just read your post wrong.
PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 8:14 pm


S p a r o l
How would this even work? Inturpretation of waves? The people inside it and how they react to your prospectice? It seems strange, but interesting, something to look into.


That ain't my beef yet; I'll find a way of making it work. I've already used the subway as a means of 'banishing a demon' (getting rid of bad habits) by writing the habit on a subway ticket, then throwing the ticket away while passing though Merkland Street station, which is a disused station (casting it into the void, if you will). It's little things like that that the system would be based off of.

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Subways are underground and they are transport systems. Perhaps that is symbolism of crossing from the world of the living to the world of the dead?

I hope that's what you're looking for. Maybe I just read your post wrong.


Not at all chief, that's precisely what I'm looking for. Cheers!

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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 11:59 am


Er... Well, I always see the subway as a big snake (not the SLIGHTEST clue why... Maybe because they're both... long? o.O) and... it's in the ground. So... perhaps... it... symbolizes... *brain goes caplooie* penetrating the secrets of the earth? And... the unkown? Like you're riding into your subconcious? gonk Augh. Brain... needing... abiltiy to think! Question... cripiling mind! burning_eyes

And now I must check on the other thread about the making people think they have gone mad. XD
PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 12:10 pm


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Er... Well, I always see the subway as a big snake (not the SLIGHTEST clue why... Maybe because they're both... long? o.O) and... it's in the ground. So... perhaps... it... symbolizes... *brain goes caplooie* penetrating the secrets of the earth? And... the unkown? Like you're riding into your subconcious? gonk Augh. Brain... needing... abiltiy to think! Question... cripiling mind! burning_eyes

And now I must check on the other thread about the making people think they have gone mad. XD


A snake? Ouroboros? The snake that devours its own tail and infinitely travels in a circle. Not sure if subways travel in a circle or if they go back and forth on a straight line xD never been on one (I live in Florida lmao).

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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 2:34 pm


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Er... Well, I always see the subway as a big snake (not the SLIGHTEST clue why... Maybe because they're both... long? o.O) and... it's in the ground. So... perhaps... it... symbolizes... *brain goes caplooie* penetrating the secrets of the earth? And... the unkown? Like you're riding into your subconcious? gonk Augh. Brain... needing... abiltiy to think! Question... cripiling mind! burning_eyes

And now I must check on the other thread about the making people think they have gone mad. XD


A snake? Ouroboros? The snake that devours its own tail and infinitely travels in a circle. Not sure if subways travel in a circle or if they go back and forth on a straight line xD never been on one (I live in Florida lmao).


Interestingly, the Glasgow Subway's just a ring of stations, there's no branching-off lines or anything, so the Ouroboros idea fits. X3
PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 5:29 pm


Yeah... I loved the tube...( *sings* chube chube chube) I actualy resently got back from the UK, and we took the London underground every-day we were in London, which was for about four days, but I haven't taken the American subway since....well, since the...no..since I was two or three. (i'm 16 now)


right back on topic of train magick. Well, both are...cool...and...are found in many places....like big cities (!) so largely populated areas tend to attract more things and ideas.....well that was kinda stupid...um...OH I have an actual idea! OK, both use color coding to differenciate different parts of it'self, and If you consider how it makes the entire city like a human, it's the energy system. The trains going different directions carying people (the city's energy) in different directions. and there are some major stops that represemt the major charkas. (like Earl's Court, everyone shuffles around trains, and gets on and off to go to different places) and!...and!...and! ...uh!...um!...yeah!

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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 10:10 am


Im Nick
Yeah... I loved the tube...( *sings* chube chube chube) I actualy resently got back from the UK, and we took the London underground every-day we were in London, which was for about four days, but I haven't taken the American subway since....well, since the...no..since I was two or three. (i'm 16 now)


right back on topic of train magick. Well, both are...cool...and...are found in many places....like big cities (!) so largely populated areas tend to attract more things and ideas.....well that was kinda stupid...um...OH I have an actual idea! OK, both use color coding to differenciate different parts of it'self, and If you consider how it makes the entire city like a human, it's the energy system. The trains going different directions carying people (the city's energy) in different directions. and there are some major stops that represemt the major charkas. (like Earl's Court, everyone shuffles around trains, and gets on and off to go to different places) and!...and!...and! ...uh!...um!...yeah!


I like the idea about the subway being similar to a biologial system, and (while the subway I frequent's only a circular route), it makes sense. Anyone in the Glasgow area could tell you that Buchanan Street station would undoubtedly be the "heart" of the system, cause there's so many bloody folk there. I think I might just try assigning different body parts (or chakras, maybe) to the subway system... cheers for the idea!
PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 1:59 pm


For a seriously, seriously good film about the subject of the seperate world of the underground train networks is by a Hungarian Independent filmmaker, Nimrod Antal. The film is called Kontroll, and is made in 2003. Check it out.

Personally I see it as something that lacks time when you're away from the exit. Trains come and go as the clock ticks by but really it could be anytime outside. It's completely different to "up there", and then there's the fact that for minutes at a time, you're shut in a small, barely ventilated box with dozens of people you don't even know.... with no way out until the next station.

The underground train systems, no matter where you are, is the "otherworld". People, places, time, they're all different. People are all trying to get to the aforementioned place, fully lacking the time that seems not to even exist on the subway to begin with.

Oh, I live in London, by the way. So I get the tube a lot. pirate

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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 10:03 pm


I'm too brain-numb to really think of mystical significance, however I've got a few good works for you to ponder on your next trip.

1) Fred Perry's "Legacy" - volume two, specifically, includes the group who uses graffiti symbols as wards, spells, etc. And we all know that graffiti and trains go hand in hand.

2) Neil Gaiman's "Neverwhere" is set all about the London Underground. Good times, mate, good times. Brings new and sinister meaning to the term, "Mind the gap".
PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 1:11 am


Yvaine
I'm too brain-numb to really think of mystical significance, however I've got a few good works for you to ponder on your next trip.

1) Fred Perry's "Legacy" - volume two, specifically, includes the group who uses graffiti symbols as wards, spells, etc. And we all know that graffiti and trains go hand in hand.

2) Neil Gaiman's "Neverwhere" is set all about the London Underground. Good times, mate, good times. Brings new and sinister meaning to the term, "Mind the gap".


I'll look out for this Legacy book, sounds pretty neat. I've heard of Neverwhere, but I've been putting off buying and reading it because of Reasons. I'll definitely pick it up the next time I'm in Borders - cheers! 8D

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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 11:51 am


Legacy is a comic paperback, available through Antarctic Press if you can't find it in a bookstore. Volume One is cool too, but has nothing to do with graffiti.

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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 6:07 pm


I live in St Louis, where we have a metro hitting the major hubs in the city. Symbolically, every time I wait at the station I always get the feeling of expectation, the urge to complete, the same feeling you get if you linger breathless between exhale and inhale. When you get on the train, the expectation rises, building at each stop as you get closer to your goal. You can feel the intention of everyone around you rising and releasing as they arrive at their stops.

You could charge your (or theirs, depending on your ethics on that) energy of expectation towards a goal and either release small bits affecting the entire along the way at each stop (like cord magick or a seven day spell) or build, build, build until your stop and then release in the relief felt upon arriving at the destination. The speed, the interconnection and otherworldliness of the subway will only make this easier.

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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 10:40 am


Andiela
I live in St Louis, where we have a metro hitting the major hubs in the city. Symbolically, every time I wait at the station I always get the feeling of expectation, the urge to complete, the same feeling you get if you linger breathless between exhale and inhale. When you get on the train, the expectation rises, building at each stop as you get closer to your goal. You can feel the intention of everyone around you rising and releasing as they arrive at their stops.

You could charge your (or theirs, depending on your ethics on that) energy of expectation towards a goal and either release small bits affecting the entire along the way at each stop (like cord magick or a seven day spell) or build, build, build until your stop and then release in the relief felt upon arriving at the destination. The speed, the interconnection and otherworldliness of the subway will only make this easier.


Hurm, I quite like this idea; use of expectation to fuel a desire. Sounds almost like a boost for sigil magick, methinks. Cheers! 8D
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