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 Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 6:16 pm
I'm not overly religious, and while I remain open-minded, my general view is that when you die, your spirit just goes to another space/time plane. Similar theories are used in Slaughter-House-Five and The Place Promised In Our Early Days, which also contemplate the possible reasons for certain dreams and deja`vu. Anyone have comments on this theory?
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Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 8:17 pm
To start off with I'm using a GOOD keyboard! Yay i'm at home >_<
Alrighty then.
I am in a religion so i guess you would expect me to say my views and such about life and death and such.
Me = After you die you are asleep. (Won't get any further due to religious arguments.))
Others
There are plenty of other things that people believe whether it be:
1) Like me you are merely resting after you die.
2) You are reborn again into another person forgetting some of your past, though perhaps you do have these Deja' Vu's you supposedly you did in your past life.
3) Yay for the ghost theory your spirit waunders the earth. ((Kinda getting a little creeped out *goes to turn on bedroom light* Much better! *Has seen something creepy in dark before* ))
4) Spirit goes to live in a nice place or a terrible place if he/she lived a good life or bad.
((Plenty more, studying world religions next year! ^_^
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 2:19 pm
This is an idea that I have been interested in a while, actually. Ever since I really started questioning my religion from various events in the news and developments in society and of course my own personal views and principles. Up until a few years ago I actually considered myself a loose Christian, you could say. But yeah, I think I've almost completely seperated from Christianity as of now. I still think that there's some sort of higher power other than ourselves, but I'm much more open to the possibilities on what that power could be. Right now, I'd say that I'm religion-less, but I still do believe in something bigger, such as other worlds, spirits, gods, so I'm not saying I'm athiest, really. If anything, I might be closer to Buddhist or maybe Hinduism.
In fact, me and Aki Yasu-chan have declared ourselves as Shinto-Buddhist-Hindu-Pagan-Wiccans, because we're that wide in our spectrums.
BTW, first to come up with a shorter name for all that gets a cookie...and pocky!
Anyway, back to the main topic...
Yes, I do believe that there are other worlds than our own, perhaps in seperate dimensions. Perhaps we go there after we die or something, well, at least we do in spirit. I think the body and spirit are two seperate entities after death, and the spirit goes to a certain somewhere else. In fact, I play with this very idea in a manga I'm plotting to draw and most hopefully get published one day.
And Spirited Away is one of my favorite movies and has great influence on me, if that says anything more on the subject for me!
mrgreen
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 8:18 pm
Please feel free to join our little cult,by the way... now I personally belive that when you die, you are given a choice of what comes after that. rebirth, heaven, oblivion, whatever... should be fun. one explanation I herd about for deji vue is that humans have an underlying hive mind that allows a few experences that has happened to others to leak into your consence. Cool huh?
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 2:53 pm
Cute... However.. Wiccan is paganism, or rather a branch of it... and paganism and Buddhism have completely different views on life.
But what the hell...
I'm going to be all cynical and bitter (wouldn't want to break character). My belief is, when you die, your mind and body shuts down, you become the same as your were before you lived (which also brings us to the question, before we're born, are we technically dead?). You simply cease to exist. All your memories, good and bad, all you emotions, and eventually your body, all gone. You either get eaten by maggots, or burned to a cinder. Eventually, people will either forget about you or die themselves, so everything you've ever done will be forgotten. Good things, bad things, all meaningless.
And even if you do reincarnate (I have studied zen-Buddhism a lot), you are a completely different person, so it's mostly the same as dying. Your souls lives on, sure, congratulations, but I don't remember s**t from my previous incarnation, so what's the difference?
And as for déjà vu... I agree with your theory, partly. What I don't agree with is that some other have experienced it before. Rather, you have experienced something similar sometime in your life. Maybe a bird flew by you in a park when someone was walking the dog a few meters away. Déjà vu! Explanation: You once sat in a park, same or another one, when someone with another dog walked by, and another bird flew by. Your memory of the incident has been muddled over time, so you react, thinking, "this is just like that other time!, but in fact, it was only partly similar. It's called "anomaly of memory".
And, to be a Buddhist, you need to have studied buddhism, learned how to meditate, read buddhist scrips... You're not a Buddhist just 'cuz you agree with some Buddhist theories.
.. Go on, hate me. I know I deserve it rofl
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 3:45 pm
I don't hate you, Why would I? As it happens, while I don't read the scriptures first hand 'Cuz I don't speak the language, I have studyed it and am a practicing Buddist.
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Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 6:57 am
Er, wait, big typo... Hate on me, not hate me... Huge difference.
And anyway... You can't be of more than one religion. If you have clashing faith, then you don't belong to either religion. Besides, paganism comes in so many different form and shapes... If you have a unique belief, just call yourself a pagan and you'll be ok xD
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Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 10:52 am
Well...this has raised some interesting view points...
Personally I don't think it really matters what major religion people belong to, as long as it doesn't involve old techniques of sacrificing and such. (Hence I shall never be going to Mexico, as certain members of their country in specific seem to hold up some of those rituals (no offense to anyone from Mexico)). Don't get me wrong, all countries have their issues, but they stand out in my point of view...
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Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 1:33 pm
Well, in our little 'two-person cult's' defense, we never really said we strictly adhere to each and every one of those listed religions. Like I said, I don't really belong to any religion, as of yet. Let's just say I like a bunch of ideas, but many of those ideas belong to different religions, therefore we consider ourselves a little bit from here, a little bit from there, thus our long name sweatdrop
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Posted: Sun May 20, 2007 2:40 pm
Hehe... I'm sure I've mentioned how these threads tend to go off-topic after the first six posts... Somehow this turned into a theological discussion... Space/Time Planes, was it?
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Posted: Sun May 20, 2007 3:59 pm
Yeah...space/time planes... sweatdrop
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 3:51 pm
That sounds about right. anyone have any new thought about that? Sheba-san perhapse?
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Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 7:17 pm
Oh! I have a thought. I think Time is a product of the human imagination. thats my contribution.
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Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 2:11 am
If you mean time as in minutes, days, years etc, you're right. But Time as an... element? law of nature? has been (somewhat) proved to exist. Somewhat, I mean, there's absolutely nothing sure about the universe, scientists are basically coming up with probable theories that works with other existing theories. But we don't really know anything about the universe. Time is more.. hmm.. extremely difficult to explain, that's what it is... Though of course, we're still not sure that Time exists... but I stick with that theory.. But it's got nothing to do with clocks.
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Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 3:01 pm
Finally somyhing you and I agree on... The end of the world is coming in 5...4...3...
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