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Carnamagos
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2007 1:58 pm


Everybody knows the big three of the World of Darkness, but what about some of the other family members? Has anyone ever played them?

Wraith the Oblivion, Changeling the Dreaming, Demon the Fallen, Hunter the Reckoning, Mummy the Resurrection (or as I like to call it, "I can't die. Ever. Seriously, stop trying to kill me, it won't work.").
PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2007 3:01 pm


My only experience with the other games is stories told to me about said games and second hand information. Also, I've played that terrible PS2 game Wayward, which is based on Hunter.

That's not to say I wouldn't play any of them. I may have a Hunter game next fall, but that's uncertian at this point.

Ironic Discordia


MikaKyoko

PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 6:29 am


sadly, I have never heard of those! OMG! I didn't even know that they exicted. maybe someone could send me some more info about them and maybe i could check them out! thanks....

Mika Kyoko
PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 11:33 am


Ironic Discordia
My only experience with the other games is stories told to me about said games and second hand information. Also, I've played that terrible PS2 game Wayward, which is based on Hunter.

That's not to say I wouldn't play any of them. I may have a Hunter game next fall, but that's uncertian at this point.

Yeah, the Hunter video games are a little more...sanitized than the RPG they were based on. Wayward especially. Waywards have a little tendency towards homicidal lunacy because the voices never stop talking to them and they see monsters everywhere.

MikaKyoko
sadly, I have never heard of those! OMG! I didn't even know that they exicted. maybe someone could send me some more info about them and maybe i could check them out! thanks....

Mika Kyoko

Wraith the Oblivion is a complex game and not to dig on any roleplayers, it takes some good players to make it work. They do a better job explaining it here than I can. Wraith the Oblivion


Demon the Fallen is about fallen angels who were imprisoned in Hell following Lucifer's rebellion. Due to the activities of other supernaturals, some Demons were able to escape into the mortal world, however they were forced to take control of mortal bodies to survive. Some of the Fallen want to redeem themselves and return to their station as angels, others want to resume their war on Heaven, others are searching for their lost leader Lucifer for guidance.

Hunter the Reckoning is about crazy people who hear divine voices that monsters are everywhere and have powers to combat them. Monsters own the Earth and Hunters intend to rectify that situation.

Carnamagos
Vice Captain


sven_the_warrior
Captain

PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 8:19 pm


Yeah, I've got the Wraith book, but I've never played. I've read Changling, but again, never played.

Demon I've paged through the book in a store once, and I'd really like to play if I can get my hands on it, because it looks awsome, but I've yet to find a copy of the book.
I suppose I could go onto Amazon if I decided that it was worth the money.

Mummy is just ridiculous.
As is Hunter, in my opinion. I don't like the idea of mortals that "just happen" to have uber powers.

See, all the games except Hunter have their own myths. I think the inspiration for Hunter might have come partially from Dracula, with Dr. Van Helsing, but he didn't have uber powers.

With Hunter you're just a completely munchkined and misguided mortal. There's no mythology, no culture to speak of, and not brains.

The one time I played Hunter I said "screw this" halfway though, and the ST had me play their prey, a stranded werewolf.

As it happens, I ended up killing them all, one at a time, but it was damn tricky. Hunters can do to werewolves what werewolves generally do to everyone else, so I couldn't just pop up and rip his head off.
PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 8:06 am


I largely avoided wraith, and by the time Hunter and Demon came out, my gaming group was winding down on White Wolf and moving on to other things...so I didn't even bother with them.

I have played Changeling on a couple occasions, and enjoyed it. It's just too bad that our storytellers weren't all that great, and my companion and I had more fun mostly avoiding the plot.

Aienn


Carnamagos
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 12:05 pm


Wraith is bad, evil, wrong fun if you like that sort of thing. Since the Tempest contains literally hundreds, if not thousands of various, realms, underworlds, and afterlives, there's no telling where your Wraith could end up. The Shadow also makes for all sorts of interesting play, considering that, unlike the Beast, Rage, and Paradox, the Shadow is an independent consciousness that wants to take your Wraith and turn it into a slave of Oblivion and works diligently to weaken you enough to take control. But I'm just a Wraith fan who thinks it suffered from too much of its own greatness.

Changeling I never played because I never really understood the point of the game. Play make-believe or fall victim to Banality and cease to exist.

I love and hate Hunter. White Wolf returned to their non-PC roots with much of the Hunter setting material, like deranged Hunters who murder people in broad daylight, racial and national conflict among Hunters, idealogical conflict among Hunters because someone isn't doing it "right", etc. I disliked Hunter because they seemed to know everyone's business inside of five years. Yes, there are Vampires who pretend to be humans and have Clans. Yes, Werewolves are big engines of death that worship nature and have human relatives. Yes, Mages exist and can practice magic, but not if there are people watching. I'm just sitting here thinking, "How the hell did they get all of this info?" The INTARWEB? Hunter-Net?

Hunter becomes much more interesting when you use the setting option that Hunters aren't divinely inspired at all, but powerful psychics who were used by the government to kill supernaturals and implanted with a psychic trigger (The Heralds) before being released back into society.

And the two most powerful Hunters in the world, God_45 and Alleyman222, were a homicidal lunatic and a half-Indian white supremacist respectively. Just trying to stop those two from upping their body counts accounts for more than half of my Hunter experience.
PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 12:58 pm


Hunter is an interesting idea, but I don't think that it's well executed at all.

There's no real source or limit to their power. Werewolves, Vampires and the like get their power from their inhuman nature. Mages are human, but their abilities are much more limited. Playing a Mage is not much different from playing a kinfolk.

Hunters on the other hand, just seem like little kids that find their daddie's AK47. They have more power than they should, and they have no idea what they're doing.

That's not interesting to me. Mortal Hunters would be interesting. You could just have them be regular mortals that find out, one way or another, that something's going down, and decide to do something about it.
They would be just like normal mortals, though, if you wanted to give them a chance you could give them the better starting points, the 7/13/5 that wolves and leeches get for their primary stats.

So they would be humanities finest, but they would just be humans, trying to get by on their cunning.


Dead Man's Hand does that. They're just scary smart, instead of being supernatural.

sven_the_warrior
Captain


Phedre Delauney

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 9:45 am


Hi Folks. I am one of the newest members of the guild.

Just wanted to make myself known. I used to be the Head Storyteller of the Darqness Sabbat Chronicals on white-wolf.com So as the HST, I have been able to utlitize ALL of the other factors of the WoD. After the end of the Masquerade era, the game went south cause White Wolf wanted to focus on the new material rather than the older game. So as a form of protest, I havent even opened any of the new WoD books.. lol

Anyway, just letting you know, I am at least familiar with all the distant games of WoD. My expertise remains with Vampire and Werewolf though. Since they are best in crossover stories. But wraith and mage make things terribly interesting from a player perspective, if your playing a vampire (enter evil laugh here, "I am all powerful and nothing else in the universe is as strong as m... what.. mummies cant die? Damn....") Hunter? Gotta love em... fun fun fun to play, even liked the novels.

Ummm yeah lol I guess that is enough for tooting my own horn. Let me know if any of these others games start to get a following. Would be very interested.
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 6:16 pm


Phedre Delauney
Hi Folks. I am one of the newest members of the guild.

Just wanted to make myself known. I used to be the Head Storyteller of the Darqness Sabbat Chronicals on white-wolf.com So as the HST, I have been able to utlitize ALL of the other factors of the WoD. After the end of the Masquerade era, the game went south cause White Wolf wanted to focus on the new material rather than the older game. So as a form of protest, I havent even opened any of the new WoD books.. lol

Anyway, just letting you know, I am at least familiar with all the distant games of WoD. My expertise remains with Vampire and Werewolf though. Since they are best in crossover stories. But wraith and mage make things terribly interesting from a player perspective, if your playing a vampire (enter evil laugh here, "I am all powerful and nothing else in the universe is as strong as m... what.. mummies cant die? Damn....") Hunter? Gotta love em... fun fun fun to play, even liked the novels.

Ummm yeah lol I guess that is enough for tooting my own horn. Let me know if any of these others games start to get a following. Would be very interested.


The first part of your post should have been in other threads, namely the "getting to know you" thread and what I think of as the "complain about nWOD" thread.

I'm not going to edit the post, but I do ask that you keep on subject hereafter. The latter part was fine.

sven_the_warrior
Captain


Carnamagos
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2007 3:41 pm


I forgot to mention this, but the best supplements White Wolf produced were for some of their lesser known gamelines. Demon's books were almost all well-written (nobody had time read them as WW killed off the universe a few months after DtF's release), Kindred of the East had the supplement before which all other supplements bow, Dharmabook: Devil-Tigers, and it's close second, The 1000 Hells, and Charnel Houses of Europe was, by far, the most disturbing book White Wolf (Black Dog) ever published.
PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2007 11:05 pm


I had no idea that there was such a wide variety of publications, until I went to Powell's bookstore, in Portland, OR. If any of you folks live that close, then I totally suggest it. It takes up an entire city block, with many different levels, and was just really neat to go to.

Wendy-of-Davenport
Crew


sven_the_warrior
Captain

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 2:20 pm


Is this just a huge bookstore, or a giant geekery (slang: game store)?
PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 11:15 am


Powell's is a big bookstore, one of the biggest physical bookstores in the US. They also have an online store that's good for getting out of print or hard to find books.

Carnamagos
Vice Captain


Drinker_of_Styx

PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 12:31 pm


Aww, who doesn't like Mummy?

I swear, I never get tired of a Hunter chopping of my head, burning my body. Scattering my ashes to the wind... and the next night I only respond by giving him a sample of my home brewn english tea...

But seriously, Demon had a sweet book. I enjoyed all 2 months of reading it at Hastings before it disapeered. Poor Lucian and his angels... they never had a fighting chance.

Changling...eww. I agree with the Banality bit. I mean whats the point if you can't cross over games... other wise you die? Pitiful.

Wraith and Orpheous are both cherished treasures. But yes, I do think you need a good player base otherwise the game will break itself.

Kindred of the East...1000 Hells, Devil Tigers... zomg. More of a BoneFlower myself or Centipede, but yes, lovely. The court system is so amazing and you toss in the sentai and the Hengokai, you got yourself a great game.

Werewolf is a favorite among many. Who doesn't want to go Crinos and pop some formori's head off for the wrym. The tastes of victory and the spoils of war, just watch the elders with the battle scars. The brain damage is starting to catch up with them.

Hunter is wrong... while all other games have their mythos and stories. Hunter is like DnD on crack... lets kill everything. The only good hunter is a dead hunter, besides most get derangements and go rouge anyways. Now who needs to be hunted? (Rogue hunter for those of you who don't know are Hunters who start killing mortals, etc. In order to save them)

Mage. House of Hermes... hehehe. Not my best know system, I actually know little about it. But I always wanted to play.

And Vampire, the orginal...the classic. So many clans, so much fun. I just can't wait to do another Gehenna chronicle... bring it. I will go out in a blaze of glory!
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