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Eccentric Iconoclast Captain
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 Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 1:52 pm
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Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 1:51 pm
Well, I'm fine with it the way it is.
I say we finalize this and the 8 vowels and move on to diphthongs and other things. xp
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 4:17 pm
I'm changing my vote for "Yes" to your revised consonants.... Eccentric Iconoclast Voiceless Bilabial Plosive
Voiced Bilabial Plosive
Voiceless Alveolar Plosive
Voiced Alveolar Plosive
Voiceless Velar Plosive
Voiced Velar Plosive
Voiceless Velar Fricative
Voiceless Labiodental Fricative
Voiced Labiodental Fricative
Voiceless Alveolar Fricative
Voiced Alveolar Fricative
Voiceless Postalveolar Fricative
Voiced Postalveolar Fricative
Alveolar Lateral Approximant
Alveolar Flap/Tap
Bilabial Nasal
Alveolar Nasal
Velar Nasal
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 4:09 am
Quite. Let me put those up and restart the poll:
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Eccentric Iconoclast Captain
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 10:24 am
We really should also post the X-SAMPA version of the vowels and consonants, for people like me doesn't lost themselves. sweatdrop
Btw, I'm voting yes this time. 3nodding Now we go to ortography and after the most interesting part of it: Syllabic Structure, Stress and Phonotactics!!!! blaugh blaugh blaugh
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 10:38 am
I'm kind of confused by the difference between vowels w and o... I think I'd need to hear w, q, u, y, and o to quite get them. The rest are ok. Though I think in writing it'd take me a while to remember to pronounce them those different ways from "normal" sweatdrop Are u and y "oo"ish sounds? They're labelled with the "rounded".. I'm confused sweatdrop Uhh, nevermind. Vowels Thread a = a ä = q e = e i = i o = o ö = w u = u ü = y Took me a while to find that, gave up too fast last time I tried stressed sorry
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Eccentric Iconoclast Captain
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 1:02 pm
Sano Parmandil We really should also post the X-SAMPA version of the vowels and consonants, for people like me doesn't lost themselves. sweatdrop Btw, I'm voting yes this time. 3nodding Now we go to ortography and after the most interesting part of it: Syllabic Structure, Stress and Phonotactics!!!! blaugh blaugh blaugh That's the most interesting part of phonology, yes. mad D But overall, I think syntax and morphology are more interesting by a long shot.
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 3:04 pm
Morphology always tends to get on my nerves, but syntax and other grammatical structure are my favorite parts (not counting the scripting). Also, once this is finalized, I'll be glad to get started on some audio recordings to help people understand the basic phonology. EDIT: Please keep an eye on this thread. Conlang Status Thread Vowels:a - "ah" as in English "f ather" (Open Front/Back Unrounded) q/ä - "ae" as in English "h at" (Near-Open Front Unrounded) e - "eh" as in English "s et" (Mid Front Unrounded) i - "ee" as in English "mach ine" (Close Front Unrounded) o - "oh" as in German "K ohl" (Mid Back Rounded) w/ö - "oe" as in German "sch ön" (Mid Front Rounded) u - "oo" as in English "f ood"(Close Back Rounded) y/ü - "ouh" as in English "h ook" (Close Front Rounded OR Near-Close Near-Back) That's my best explanation for the sounds of the vowels for now.
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Eccentric Iconoclast Captain
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 3:52 pm
o.O
/y/ isn't anything like what you described.
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 9:24 pm
Eccentric Iconoclast o.O /y/ isn't anything like what you described. Meh, it's the best I could do without using another German example. Really, I don't think the German examples are any good because not everyone here is familiar with German, and if they are, they probably don't need examples. But there aren't really Mid Front Rounded or Close Front Rounded vowels in most dialects of English.
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Eccentric Iconoclast Captain
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 5:31 am
You could say "a weird hybrid of and ." mrgreen
Myself, the only English word I use /y/ in is "tuna."
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 3:05 pm
For "tuna" I just say "too nuh."
But for the great majority of us in Texas who do not have the stereotypical drawl, words like "hook" or "book" or "hood" often get VERY close to this sound.
You're right with the "hybrid of and " thing. It's not quite "hick" and it's not quite "huck," around here at least.
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Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 10:16 am
We can represent /y/ using French examples. 3nodding
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Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 1:20 pm
I know absolutely nothing about French phonetics. sweatdrop
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Eccentric Iconoclast Captain
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Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 7:40 pm
In French, /y/ is. usually, . It depends on where there are other vowels, though. In words like "une" and "fracture," they're /y/, but in words like "un" it's more /A~/.
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