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Vice Captain

PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 10:55 pm


So, Job hunting was a no go...I can never seem to get off my lazy...

Anyways, latin.

let's start with an overview on verbs, and the Present Indicative Active
Most latin verbs have four principle parts, Let us take the verb monere;

moneo, monere, monui, monitum - "to advise"

To conjugate this verb we use the second part of the verb, called the infinative, and we cut off the "ere".

moneo - I advise monemus - we advise
mones - you advise monetis - you (pl) advise
monet - he/she it advises monent - they advise

The imperative of monere in the Present Active Imperative is

mone - Advise! singular
Monete - Advise! plural

Imperatives are used for giving commands.

I will leave some sentences for those who want some;

1) Quid videtis? Nihil videmus
2) Apollo me servat
3) Quid debemus cogitare?
4) Mone me, si erro.

I am not perfect, and I am writing this very exhausted. If there are ANY errors please feel free to correct me 3nodding or any other information regarding the Present Indicative Active only (for now) that any of you want to add, please do.

Questions? let me know.
And of course, feel free to post the answers to the sentences!
PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 8:06 am


I'm going to put up a summary of all the declensions and some conjugations when I get back from having lunch with the serbian mafia. The above was probably an insult to any latin reader xd

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Vice Captain


Pseudo-Onkelos

Adored Admirer

PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 8:58 am


I have a question. Does quid mean "thing" or "something"? It's my favorite Latin word. sweatdrop
PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 10:23 am


John Calvin
I have a question. Does quid mean "thing" or "something"? It's my favorite Latin word. sweatdrop
Interrogative pronoun, I always thought.

"Who?" or "what?"

By some streak of fortune a rat ran over my keyboard and turned "who" into pen0r. Odd.

SilverDratini


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Vice Captain

PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 1:03 pm


SilverD is right, it is an interrogative pronoun...

here's the chart for the declining of quis quid qui

Singular plural
Quis quid qui quae quae
cuius cuius quorum quarum quorum
cui cui quibus quibus quibus
quem quid quos quaas quae
quo quo quibus quibus quibus

Masc+fem N M F N

As you can see Richard, depending on the context of a sentence, quid can take a lot of forms.
PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 5:29 pm


Ariadnae
SilverD is right, it is an interrogative pronoun...

here's the chart for the declining of quis quid qui

Singular plural
Quis quid qui quae quae
cuius cuius quorum quarum quorum
cui cui quibus quibus quibus
quem quid quos quaas quae
quo quo quibus quibus quibus

Masc+fem N M F N

As you can see Richard, depending on the context of a sentence, quid can take a lot of forms.


Well, I was just wondering, because I saw a Latin word, tertium quid, which means, "third thing."

That now reminds me of the other word, quid pro quo. gonk

Pseudo-Onkelos

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magistertexas

PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 9:06 pm


Silly syntax and goofy grammar rules:
from catutullus:

vivamus, mea Lesbia atque amemus

the "whore'tatory subjuctive"
PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2007 6:57 am


magistertexas
Silly syntax and goofy grammar rules:
from catutullus:

vivamus, mea Lesbia atque amemus

the "whore'tatory subjuctive"



Isn't amemus and vivamus jussive noun clauses? different name for them?

mmm I love that poem


I like "on Lesbia's Husband" a bit more, but, here's some humor..

at dulce ridentem, misero quod omnis eripit sensus mihi,

It took me a good while to figure out that ridentem was the present active participle in the accusative

Mah proffy didn't look too thrilled when I was like "ooooh waits a minute! this be a participle!" her expression was more like... stare

In media res
Vice Captain


magistertexas

PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 11:11 pm


Ariadnae
magistertexas
Silly syntax and goofy grammar rules:
from catutullus:

vivamus, mea Lesbia atque amemus

the "whore'tatory subjuctive"



Isn't amemus and vivamus jussive noun clauses? different name for them?

mmm I love that poem


I like "on Lesbia's Husband" a bit more, but, here's some humor..

at dulce ridentem, misero quod omnis eripit sensus mihi,

It took me a good while to figure out that ridentem was the present active participle in the accusative

Mah proffy didn't look too thrilled when I was like "ooooh waits a minute! this be a participle!" her expression was more like... stare


another name for a jussive is a "hortatory" subjunctive from hortor, hortari, hortatus sum"= " to urge on"
My Feeble attempt at a bad joke, slandering Clodia Metella's reputation for the sake of a pun. I love Catullus; lots of good invective and slangy latin.
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 9:10 am


magistertexas
Ariadnae
magistertexas
Silly syntax and goofy grammar rules:
from catutullus:

vivamus, mea Lesbia atque amemus

the "whore'tatory subjuctive"



Isn't amemus and vivamus jussive noun clauses? different name for them?

mmm I love that poem


I like "on Lesbia's Husband" a bit more, but, here's some humor..

at dulce ridentem, misero quod omnis eripit sensus mihi,

It took me a good while to figure out that ridentem was the present active participle in the accusative

Mah proffy didn't look too thrilled when I was like "ooooh waits a minute! this be a participle!" her expression was more like... stare


another name for a jussive is a "hortatory" subjunctive from hortor, hortari, hortatus sum"= " to urge on"
My Feeble attempt at a bad joke, slandering Clodia Metella's reputation for the sake of a pun. I love Catullus; lots of good invective and slangy latin.


Ohhh, I didn't know that there was another word for it. *shudders* hortor..deponents gonk

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Vice Captain


magistertexas

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 8:53 pm


Ariadnae
magistertexas
Ariadnae
magistertexas
Silly syntax and goofy grammar rules:
from catutullus:

vivamus, mea Lesbia atque amemus

the "whore'tatory subjuctive"



Isn't amemus and vivamus jussive noun clauses? different name for them?

mmm I love that poem


I like "on Lesbia's Husband" a bit more, but, here's some humor..

at dulce ridentem, misero quod omnis eripit sensus mihi,

It took me a good while to figure out that ridentem was the present active participle in the accusative

Mah proffy didn't look too thrilled when I was like "ooooh waits a minute! this be a participle!" her expression was more like... stare


another name for a jussive is a "hortatory" subjunctive from hortor, hortari, hortatus sum"= " to urge on"
My Feeble attempt at a bad joke, slandering Clodia Metella's reputation for the sake of a pun. I love Catullus; lots of good invective and slangy latin.


Ohhh, I didn't know that there was another word for it. *shudders* hortor..deponents gonk


don't forget the "fab five" that take the ablative:
fruor, fungor, pascor, vescor, and utor
enjoy, change, pasture, feed, and use.
usufruct and pasta
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 6:54 am


Ariadnae
magistertexas
Ariadnae
magistertexas
Silly syntax and goofy grammar rules:
from catutullus:

vivamus, mea Lesbia atque amemus

the "whore'tatory subjuctive"



Isn't amemus and vivamus jussive noun clauses? different name for them?

mmm I love that poem


I like "on Lesbia's Husband" a bit more, but, here's some humor..

at dulce ridentem, misero quod omnis eripit sensus mihi,

It took me a good while to figure out that ridentem was the present active participle in the accusative

Mah proffy didn't look too thrilled when I was like "ooooh waits a minute! this be a participle!" her expression was more like... stare


another name for a jussive is a "hortatory" subjunctive from hortor, hortari, hortatus sum"= " to urge on"
My Feeble attempt at a bad joke, slandering Clodia Metella's reputation for the sake of a pun. I love Catullus; lots of good invective and slangy latin.


Ohhh, I didn't know that there was another word for it. *shudders* hortor..deponents gonk


Jussive & Hortatory subjunctives are different things - not interchangable terms:

Jussive is a command/exhortation given in third person, Hortatory is when it's given in the first person.

Slayer Igraine


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Vice Captain

PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 1:01 pm


Slayer Igraine
Ariadnae
magistertexas
Ariadnae
magistertexas
Silly syntax and goofy grammar rules:
from catutullus:

vivamus, mea Lesbia atque amemus

the "whore'tatory subjuctive"



Isn't amemus and vivamus jussive noun clauses? different name for them?

mmm I love that poem


I like "on Lesbia's Husband" a bit more, but, here's some humor..

at dulce ridentem, misero quod omnis eripit sensus mihi,

It took me a good while to figure out that ridentem was the present active participle in the accusative

Mah proffy didn't look too thrilled when I was like "ooooh waits a minute! this be a participle!" her expression was more like... stare


another name for a jussive is a "hortatory" subjunctive from hortor, hortari, hortatus sum"= " to urge on"
My Feeble attempt at a bad joke, slandering Clodia Metella's reputation for the sake of a pun. I love Catullus; lots of good invective and slangy latin.


Ohhh, I didn't know that there was another word for it. *shudders* hortor..deponents gonk


Jussive & Hortatory subjunctives are different things - not interchangable terms:

Jussive is a command/exhortation given in third person, Hortatory is when it's given in the first person.



No I know that now, we just called them different things.
But I absolutely HATE deponents... I jump all over the place when I am typing, you will soon realise this xd
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 4:36 pm


so amemus is the "whoratory" in fact. wink gratias Slayer, i apologize for implying that they were the same. Though the semantic difference between
eam ad forum ire "let me go to the forum"
and exeat ex forum "let him go from the form "
is slight.
Damn the subjuncitve and it's "not yet real aspects!"
But who am i to argue with centuries of learned philology. smile

magistertexas


Slayer Igraine

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 4:06 am


Ariadnae
Slayer Igraine
Ariadnae
magistertexas
Ariadnae
magistertexas
Silly syntax and goofy grammar rules:
from catutullus:

vivamus, mea Lesbia atque amemus

the "whore'tatory subjuctive"



Isn't amemus and vivamus jussive noun clauses? different name for them?

mmm I love that poem


I like "on Lesbia's Husband" a bit more, but, here's some humor..

at dulce ridentem, misero quod omnis eripit sensus mihi,

It took me a good while to figure out that ridentem was the present active participle in the accusative

Mah proffy didn't look too thrilled when I was like "ooooh waits a minute! this be a participle!" her expression was more like... stare


another name for a jussive is a "hortatory" subjunctive from hortor, hortari, hortatus sum"= " to urge on"
My Feeble attempt at a bad joke, slandering Clodia Metella's reputation for the sake of a pun. I love Catullus; lots of good invective and slangy latin.


Ohhh, I didn't know that there was another word for it. *shudders* hortor..deponents gonk


Jussive & Hortatory subjunctives are different things - not interchangable terms:

Jussive is a command/exhortation given in third person, Hortatory is when it's given in the first person.



No I know that now, we just called them different things.
But I absolutely HATE deponents... I jump all over the place when I am typing, you will soon realise this xd


Deponents make me cringe, too.
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