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Jelai

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 5:59 pm


So...

...what's the point of the:




Moon sign?

Rising sun/Ascendant?


Venus sign?

Marts sign?

Mercury, Saturn, Uranus, etc. signs!?

eh?!

gonk


No matter how much I try to make sense of them, I still do not understand their descriptions from astrology sites.
PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 9:48 pm


Well, there is more to a person than just their general personality. People are infinitely complex and made of several different parts. On a super-basic level:

Your rising sign is the way you appear to other people, and deals with your appearance and body as well as your general vibe. For example, a Leo with a Taurus Ascendant may not seem as sunny and expansive in public as they do with their friends. They might seem solid and even a bit unfriendly, even though as a Leo this is obviously not true.

The moon represents your emotional structure. The way you feel. For example, your sun is in Aquarius and your moon is in Cancer, you might be a lot more emotional and sensitive than the average Aquarius.

Mercury represents your mind. The way you think and the way you communicate. For example, if your sun in is Taurus and your Mercury is in Gemini, you may be a lot more talkative and quick witted than your average Taurus.

Venus relates to your love life. Who you love, how you love, and how your relationships play out. A cancer with a Leo Venus is going to require lots of attention and praise and will be a warm, generous lover.

Mars relates to your anger and your sex drive. A Scorpio mars can make even the sweetest Pisces have a vengeful streak, for example.

Jupiter and Saturn are less personal planets and serve as more external points. Generally, wherever Jupiter is in your chart (and this requires at least some understanding of the houses), you're generally lucky and expansive. And wherever Saturn is, there is generally work to be done, and you may often experience limitations.

The rest of the planets are generational planets, and don't carry as much personal significance. However, wherever Uranus is in your chart, you are likely to have revolutionary urges. Where Neptune is, you have a tendency to dream and you don't have a lot of clarity. Where Pluto is, there are deep currents of transformation.

All this, of course, doesn't even begin to go into the houses, aspects, and all the million other confusing parts of astrology that make it so hard to learn. XD But I hoped it helped a little bit!

midara the happy banshee


Jelai

PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 4:30 pm


Thank you so much. whee

I already have the houses and aspects figured out, sort of...I just don't remember each and every house's job, lol. XD; So I usually need to look at a full chart.

I just wanted to know because I'm a sun in Pisces, moon in Gemini, and ascendant in Leo, and I still don't see how these fit my overall personality. I have a hard time seeing my Gemini moon. The Leo part of me, I could kind of see...I think...

and then there's my Venus in Aries and Mars in Gemini, which I still don't get how they all fit a Pisces personality.

I think my Mercury was in Aquarius
PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 8:52 am


I'm still trying to get the more indepth stuff of astrology myself so your definetely not alone!! 3nodding

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Burning Sosobra

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 1:29 am


Jelai
Thank you so much. whee

I already have the houses and aspects figured out, sort of...I just don't remember each and every house's job, lol. XD; So I usually need to look at a full chart.

I just wanted to know because I'm a sun in Pisces, moon in Gemini, and ascendant in Leo, and I still don't see how these fit my overall personality. I have a hard time seeing my Gemini moon. The Leo part of me, I could kind of see...I think...

and then there's my Venus in Aries and Mars in Gemini, which I still don't get how they all fit a Pisces personality.

I think my Mercury was in Aquarius



Woah! I'm also a sun in Pisces, Gemini moon, and Leo ascending! Haha, crazy! (My Merc is in Aqu, too!! Oo Crazy)

Do you know the alignment of your sun to your moon?

The thing with Pisces is that it's a mutable (Please correct me if I'm wrong) water and it does it's "problem solving" or communication by emotion over logic. While a Gemini is also a mutable, its an air sign that thinks with logic over emotion..

My sun is square to my moon, so it complicates the communication between the two. So depending on the alignment between them (and the degree of their placement), you can see more or less of the traits given from them. If your Gemini is at, say, 28 degrees, then its understandable that it doesn't stand out.

Mercury in Aquarius is awesome, since it's the exalted planet for the air sign. =D
PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 4:42 pm


Sesshira
Woah! I'm also a sun in Pisces, Gemini moon, and Leo ascending! Haha, crazy! (My Merc is in Aqu, too!! Oo Crazy)

Do you know the alignment of your sun to your moon?

The thing with Pisces is that it's a mutable (Please correct me if I'm wrong) water and it does it's "problem solving" or communication by emotion over logic. While a Gemini is also a mutable, its an air sign that thinks with logic over emotion..

My sun is square to my moon, so it complicates the communication between the two. So depending on the alignment between them (and the degree of their placement), you can see more or less of the traits given from them. If your Gemini is at, say, 28 degrees, then its understandable that it doesn't stand out.

Mercury in Aquarius is awesome, since it's the exalted planet for the air sign. =D




Woah, we must be long lost astrological twins then. XD

Well, let's see...here's my full chart if you want to examine. I still don't know how to examine my own chart yet anyway:

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Jelai


Burning Sosobra

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 12:53 am


Jelai
Sesshira
Woah! I'm also a sun in Pisces, Gemini moon, and Leo ascending! Haha, crazy! (My Merc is in Aqu, too!! Oo Crazy)

Do you know the alignment of your sun to your moon?

The thing with Pisces is that it's a mutable (Please correct me if I'm wrong) water and it does it's "problem solving" or communication by emotion over logic. While a Gemini is also a mutable, its an air sign that thinks with logic over emotion..

My sun is square to my moon, so it complicates the communication between the two. So depending on the alignment between them (and the degree of their placement), you can see more or less of the traits given from them. If your Gemini is at, say, 28 degrees, then its understandable that it doesn't stand out.

Mercury in Aquarius is awesome, since it's the exalted planet for the air sign. =D




Woah, we must be long lost astrological twins then. XD

Well, let's see...here's my full chart if you want to examine. I still don't know how to examine my own chart yet anyway:


Oo Your Moon IS square to your Sun. So those two planets don't really compliment each other's energy. How alike we are. It's funny, because I remember reading that if you have a twin who was born two minutes apart could have something different as compared to someone born years apart.

Anywho, enough of my nonsense rambling; Do you have a natal chart through astro.com or something, maybe? If it's not too much trouble, I'd like to take a look-see (I have an easier time reading Astro's charts)...

(edit): Just as proof that I'm bad at reading charts, I stared and couldn't see "ascendant" anywhere...And then found it after ages...I R DUMM... sweatdrop
PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 1:12 am


Sesshira
Oo Your Moon IS square to your Sun. So those two planets don't really compliment each other's energy. How alike we are. It's funny, because I remember reading that if you have a twin who was born two minutes apart could have something different as compared to someone born years apart.

Anywho, enough of my nonsense rambling; Do you have a natal chart through astro.com or something, maybe? If it's not too much trouble, I'd like to take a look-see (I have an easier time reading Astro's charts)...

(edit): Just as proof that I'm bad at reading charts, I stared and couldn't see "ascendant" anywhere...And then found it after ages...I R DUMM... sweatdrop


eh?
I thought that was already my natal chart.
???
And I got it from astro.com too.

Unless you mean this:
AstroClick Portrait

lol sure you can go see it. I'd be nice if I could get a good reading too, because I still don't understand how all of these plants, houses, aspects, etc. Fit my personality or what ever. I still don't see on how I can see the Leo rising in me, or the Gemini moon for that matter. Well, I can kind of see the Gemini moon work in me from time to time, I guess...

...whenver my Piscean emotions start to become overbearing, sometimes I get tired of it and try to block it out. I'm just like "forget it. it's the thing of the past now" and I just shake my head. Other times I catch myself daydreaming heavily, or contemplating heavily on a memory that I really wish I didn't remember right now. I suppress them by just not thinking about it and instead keeping a mellow expression. Sometimes I would even say in my head, "why would I even want to think about this? Forget it. It's not worth recalling; just forget those people who were mean to you, blah blah...it's the thing of the past, and they are the ones to laught at now."

I think that's how a Gemini moon works....*shrug* but then I could be wrong.


And sometimes, there are times where I could care less about people. Zodiac says that Pisces is caring and compassionate, but there was a time in my life where I cared about the world issues so far and that I wanted to help. But now...I'm much more focused on just concentrating on my school, friend, family, and private life.

I could even be mean to my younger brother if I want to, and sometimes I can through off a temper...and sometimes, my parents don't even understand what I say because I can act childish at time, and exaggerate and twist my speech to make me sound like a stupid foreigner, lol.

"WAT ARE YUU SAYING!? WE DON'T UNDERSTAND YUU! SPEAK KLEARLY!"

...my parents would say.
(they have this strong Asian accent btw, lol)


There are also times where I want to just shake off some silly daydreams of mine. Whenever I catch myself in a romantic daydream (especially with the guy that I really like right now), I have to often check myself and comeback to reality before someone catches me acting weird. There was this one time in my Japanese language class, I was moving my hands all over the place, as if I were some crazy mime, lol. One of the upperclassman caught me doing so, and also caught me moving my mouth without words. I didn't realize that I was acting out my daydream in front of the class (it wasn't a romantic daydream; more like a comedic/political one, lol blaugh )!

sweatdrop

Also, I can be such a worry wart.
And there are times where I find myself being offended by something or embarassed by something, and I can't seem to shrug it off until hours later, even though it was just a small problem.

Jelai


Burning Sosobra

PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 12:35 am


Jelai
Sesshira
Oo Your Moon IS square to your Sun. So those two planets don't really compliment each other's energy. How alike we are. It's funny, because I remember reading that if you have a twin who was born two minutes apart could have something different as compared to someone born years apart.

Anywho, enough of my nonsense rambling; Do you have a natal chart through astro.com or something, maybe? If it's not too much trouble, I'd like to take a look-see (I have an easier time reading Astro's charts)...

(edit): Just as proof that I'm bad at reading charts, I stared and couldn't see "ascendant" anywhere...And then found it after ages...I R DUMM... sweatdrop



Cut to condense quote boxes.


sweatdrop sorry for the confusion; the chart you gave was a natal, I just suck at reading the non-picture kind. XD

About you daydreaming heavily (aside from the whole spacey Pisces deal) and finding yourself focusing on details you don't really want to think of, thats because your Sun is at a challenging alignment with Neptune (semisquare!). A semisquare doesn't have the complete influence like a square, but it gives indication on peculiar romantic desires and an overactive imagination. Not to mention Neptune is sitting in the 5th house, which is, hey! Pleasure and creativity!

(P.S., I've totally had that moment in class wherein I'd apparently act out my daydreams. We were supposed to be reading and I was off in another world. When I came to, I realized I had an audience...Oh, embarrassment.)

The moodiness toward family is pretty normal with a moon in Gemini. You also have your Mars in Gemini as well, which can explain your animated speech habits. XD I always thought exaggeration was a Cap/Sag thing, but I'm not seeing anything on your chart that backs up that assumption.

I hope that (somewhat) helps. Translating aspects and houses can be such a pain, but if you're able to, "The Complete Illustrated Guide To Astrology" by Janis Huntley gives a pretty good breakdown on what things look like and mean (It was helpful trying to figure out what all those aspect glyphs meant. Oi.). >< It's available on Amazon for 2.45, haha. *shrug*
PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 10:49 pm


xD;;

I also tend to be such a worry wort, and plus...

I have good memory.

And there are some events that I would really love to just forget about. But I can't help it; they always pop back to my mind.

-le sigh-

Like how I worried that something bad must've happened to my sort-of boyfriend (we're not official yet) because I haven't talked to him in weeks, until I saw him online today I stopped freaking out. XD;

I wish I could buy those books, but right now my paren'ts won't let me spend so much. >.<;;

and plus I'm saving up the money for the Japan trip with my art teacher next year

I still don't understand the whole Leo rising thing though. I don't see what's so Leo about me, or maybe I just don't notice.

Jelai

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