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~Dagda~The~Powerful

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:05 pm


I've noticed something
About all wiccan's we all have our story
they are all pretty similar i'll name a few

Situation:Born into christian/catholic family who doesn't understand
Summery:Well, we have a friend who's wiccan who gets us interesterd
or we find a book/something on the internet about it so we give it a go
our parent fit or get angry

Situation:Born into christian/catholic family who start to weird you out
Summery:You get into wicca and you parents either really show interst and understand or pretend to

Situation:Born wiccan/pagan family
Summery:You live happily ever after

Situation:Born wiccan/pagan family
Summery:Quit wiccan for reason of teasing at school/work whatever join some religion thats christian/catholic
PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 6:34 pm


That does indeed cover a large amount of people. Most English speaking Wiccans atleast. Because of the nationality of this website we don't get many other religions.

I am one of the Christians that converted. If my family knew they would flip.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 8:17 pm


your right it doesn't cover that many people but a huge majarity
PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:03 pm


I suppose the greater majority does fit into one of those stereotypical situations, with a few individual twists. Of course, it's to be expected that we all have similar stories; there are only so many possibilities out there and in a predominantly Judeo-Christian society (speaking from an American perspective), the "I'm a Witch, but my parents are upset" story is bound to be typical.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:22 am


I do agree that in most cases that is true. I was born into a Christian family who don't really understand but accept it anyways. Except my mother, who insists I'm a Christian. Yes mum....that's why I do spells rolleyes
PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 2:00 pm


Yeah, my mom thought it was a phase and my dad tried praying for my soul. I really don't understand their aversion, though. None of the members of my family are really Christian, they just claim to be. They never go to church, they don't pray, and worst of all, they don't live their lives in a "Christian way", if you get my drift. They're hypocrites, all of 'em.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:57 pm


Personally, I don't go in for the whole "stereotype" thing, but if people are agreeing with you - then fair enough.

And I'm quite pleased to say that I don't fit into any of those examples given. whee

I think it's because I see Wicca not as a religion, but more a way of life - technically they both mean the same thing, but in practice, they're not. From my experience with other religions, it seems more like indoctrination, and with Wicca it's not - it's more come join the party if you want to.

I don't celebrate the Sabbats because I think "Oh, right, I'm Wiccan: I've got to celebrate this" - like you would if you were Christian, and were thinking about going to church. I celebrate the Sabbats because I actually want to - it's happening all around us, and I want to feel part of it.

Just giving my personal opinion - hope I haven't offended anyone. smile
PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:24 pm


Again someones outsmarted me
those are main situations
reason 1 there are more religions than christian/catholic like buddism or hindu i don't know but yeah tonnes more but like i said i'd name a few
and yes wicca's also a way of life
but still a religon

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 3:21 am


Aurellion
Personally, I don't go in for the whole "stereotype" thing, but if people are agreeing with you - then fair enough.

And I'm quite pleased to say that I don't fit into any of those examples given. whee

I think it's because I see Wicca not as a religion, but more a way of life - technically they both mean the same thing, but in practice, they're not. From my experience with other religions, it seems more like indoctrination, and with Wicca it's not - it's more come join the party if you want to.

I don't celebrate the Sabbats because I think "Oh, right, I'm Wiccan: I've got to celebrate this" - like you would if you were Christian, and were thinking about going to church. I celebrate the Sabbats because I actually want to - it's happening all around us, and I want to feel part of it.

Just giving my personal opinion - hope I haven't offended anyone. smile


You certainly didn't offend me, but you did make me think of something to add to your thought. It occured to me that this comparrisson of basic experiences; boiling them down to their basic components and tearing them apart to find a bottom line between them; seems only to serve as a platform for self-righteousness.

It seems that once the discussion turns around to "Well, I did it different than you..." it inevidably declines to a pissing contest about who did it the best, the most originally, or the most adequately. It's the same kind of pompacity that discourages a great deal of new-comers to the Craft; no one likes to be made to feel inferior.

I'm not insinuating that this is what you've done, Aurellion. Far from it, actually. I think you hit the nail on the head with your mention of "stereotypes", and it might be an issue in the community that is worth discussing further. If it weren't so late, I'd post a new thread myself. wink
PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 8:50 am


I think I will agree with Aurellion. I have never thought of Wicca as a religion but as a way of life.I have met a lot of kids who have changed religions. some to Wicca some from Wicca. but I guess it is whatever makes you happy.And they shouldn't be made to feel inferior ( not that anyone here would do that) or that their choice is the wrong one. heart

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 12:34 pm


Bayleigh of the Dark Moon
I think I will agree with Aurellion. I have never thought of Wicca as a religion but as a way of life.I have met a lot of kids who have changed religions. some to Wicca some from Wicca. but I guess it is whatever makes you happy.And they shouldn't be made to feel inferior ( not that anyone here would do that) or that their choice is the wrong one. heart


I think that spliting the two is like splitting straws. There are certainly many people that don't live their religion. Wicca is a way of life; it's a different perspective on the world and our actions, and a responsibility to both. But it's also a religion because it constitutes a belief system and to a certain degree, Wiccanism, or any paganism for that matter, does involve some amount of indoctrination, because you are being instructed on a new ideology.

The problem with separating religion from a life method is that, ideally, they should be one in the same. Belief systems give us tenents to live by, unfortunately, many people find it difficult to be a member of a religion and to live their lives by the teachings of that religion. Who hasn't met a so-called Christian that doesn't act like one? For Neo-Pagans of any path, I believe it to be less of a struggle. The way of life and the religion flow so seemlessly with one another.

I read a story once where a Witch was asked if she went to church. She replied no, that she was pagan and therefore did not go to any sort of religious congregation (save for her coven). The person woh posed the question then replied, "Oh, my cousin is Wiccan. So, I guess that means you're at church all the time, huh?"

That's what it's all about really. At least in my eyes, the way of life and the religion are one.
PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 12:40 pm


There is definately more to being born into a Pagan/Wiccan family than either being 'teased at school/work' or 'living happily ever after'. For example, if your parents have been practicing magic for longer than you, you might feel uncomfortable doing magic around them because you feel you might make a 'mistake' and that they might notice.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 9:41 am


Orafaun
That does indeed cover a large amount of people. Most English speaking Wiccans atleast. Because of the nationality of this website we don't get many other religions.

I am one of the Christians that converted. If my family knew they would flip.

im a converted christain also, but my parents dont really care. as long as im careful with my magick
PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 10:11 am


my parents tried to force me to go back to being a christian but i believe in wicca so im fighting tooth and nail

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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 12:18 pm


Situation:Born into christian/catholic family who doesn't understand
Summery:Well, we have a friend who's wiccan who gets us interesterd
or we find a book/something on the internet about it so we give it a go
our parent fit or get angry

Situation:Born into christian/catholic family who start to weird you out
Summery:You get into wicca and you parents either really show interst and understand or pretend to

i think i kind of fit in both
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