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 Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 4:43 am
what kinda karate do you take . and what level or belt are you ? im a black belt in taekwando . 3 years of training finally payed off !!! lol
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 7:51 am
... Taekwondo isn't a form of Karate. That should be clear from the fact that karate(and correct me if I'm wrong) use's kata's and Taekwondo use's Poomse's. Its easy to tell these are different languages.
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 10:18 am
Kai Kazuku ... Taekwondo isn't a form of Karate. That should be clear from the fact that karate(and correct me if I'm wrong) use's kata's and Taekwondo use's Poomse's. Its easy to tell these are different languages. You got it right. Doesn't Karate follow Japanese while Tae Kwon Do is Korean?
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 10:32 am
Moonlight Penguin Kai Kazuku ... Taekwondo isn't a form of Karate. That should be clear from the fact that karate(and correct me if I'm wrong) use's kata's and Taekwondo use's Poomse's. Its easy to tell these are different languages. You got it right. Doesn't Karate follow Japanese while Tae Kwon Do is Korean? that is correct TKD is korean but i know a little korean and i haven't even herd of the word Poomse. The word we use to describe our forms or katas in Soo Back Doo(another korean art) is Hyung
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 10:40 am
Uggae Moonlight Penguin Kai Kazuku ... Taekwondo isn't a form of Karate. That should be clear from the fact that karate(and correct me if I'm wrong) use's kata's and Taekwondo use's Poomse's. Its easy to tell these are different languages. You got it right. Doesn't Karate follow Japanese while Tae Kwon Do is Korean? that is correct TKD is korean but i know a little korean and i haven't even herd of the word Poomse. The word we use to describe our forms or katas in Soo Back Doo(another korean art) is Hyung Thats probably because its more of a older korean word for forms. *shakes head* the way they keep changing everything in taekwondo(name wise) is really getting stupid.
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 1:27 pm
Taekwondo, I believe, has roots in many different styles.
Including different styles of karate (Okinawan) and Kung Fu (Chinese).
Seeing as though they could probably give either Japanese, Okinawan, Chinese or Korean names for one same technique, I can imagine there'd be some confusion sometimes.
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 5:39 pm
I take Goju Ryu Karate Do (Hard-Soft Empty Handed Way). I am an orange belt and almost red (grading in a few weeks). And I am very good at theory
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 11:00 pm
tdunks I take Goju Ryu Karate Do (Hard-Soft Empty Handed Way). I am an orange belt and almost red (grading in a few weeks). And I am very good at theory Ha ... the same as me ... mrgreen
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 6:15 am
JoshuaKenzo Taekwondo, I believe, has roots in many different styles. Including different styles of karate (Okinawan) and Kung Fu (Chinese). Seeing as though they could probably give either Japanese, Okinawan, Chinese or Korean names for one same technique, I can imagine there'd be some confusion sometimes. It has its roots in Karate (the originator of TKD was blackbelt in karate before working on TKD), ancient korean foot fighting like Tae Kyon* and little bits from elsewhere like kungfu. In proper TKD the names of things are all in korean (no japanese or chineese, especially not japanese as there is more than a little emnity between the two countries), but they use different words for it. Such as Poomse, Kyong and Tul. They are basically korean words for things like pattern, form, "sequence", etc. It has quite a lot to do with association, the ITF mainly uses Tul and WTF mainly uses Poomse and various splinters of both using Kyong * apparently the ancient "knight/samurai" class of korea, the Hwarang (Hwarangdo - "The way of the Flowering Manhood" or "The art of the Flower Knights") used high jumping kicks to deal with mounted opponents
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 6:17 am
DarklingGlory JoshuaKenzo Taekwondo, I believe, has roots in many different styles. Including different styles of karate (Okinawan) and Kung Fu (Chinese). Seeing as though they could probably give either Japanese, Okinawan, Chinese or Korean names for one same technique, I can imagine there'd be some confusion sometimes. It has its roots in Karate (the originator of TKD was blackbelt in karate before working on TKD), ancient korean foot fighting like Tae Kyon* and little bits from elsewhere like kungfu. In proper TKD the names of things are all in korean (no japanese or chineese, especially not japanese as there is more than a little emnity between the two countries), but they use different words for it. Such as Poomse, Kyong and Tul. They are basically korean words for things like pattern, form, "sequence", etc. It has quite a lot to do with association, the ITF mainly uses Tul and WTF mainly uses Poomse and various splinters of both using Kyong * apparently the ancient "knight/samurai" class of korea, the Hwarang (Hwarangdo - "The way of the Flowering Manhood" or "The art of the Flower Knights") used high jumping kicks to deal with mounted opponents Damn, you covered just about everything I was gonna say. xp I don't think Gung Fu influenced it that much, though.
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 6:30 am
Triste DarklingGlory JoshuaKenzo Taekwondo, I believe, has roots in many different styles. Including different styles of karate (Okinawan) and Kung Fu (Chinese). Seeing as though they could probably give either Japanese, Okinawan, Chinese or Korean names for one same technique, I can imagine there'd be some confusion sometimes. It has its roots in Karate (the originator of TKD was blackbelt in karate before working on TKD), ancient korean foot fighting like Tae Kyon* and little bits from elsewhere like kungfu. In proper TKD the names of things are all in korean (no japanese or chineese, especially not japanese as there is more than a little emnity between the two countries), but they use different words for it. Such as Poomse, Kyong and Tul. They are basically korean words for things like pattern, form, "sequence", etc. It has quite a lot to do with association, the ITF mainly uses Tul and WTF mainly uses Poomse and various splinters of both using Kyong * apparently the ancient "knight/samurai" class of korea, the Hwarang (Hwarangdo - "The way of the Flowering Manhood" or "The art of the Flower Knights") used high jumping kicks to deal with mounted opponents Damn, you covered just about everything I was gonna say. xp I don't think Gung Fu influenced it that much, though. Sorry xd No Gung Fu didn't influence that much, just little bits here and there. It was mainly karate and korean foot fighting. Its interesting to note that General Choi (the founder of TKD) started on his path by learning calligraphy under one of the most famous teachers in Korea, Mr. Han II Dong. Han, in addition to his skills as a calligrapher, was also a master of Taek Kyon, the ancient Korean art of foot fighting. The teacher, concerned over the frail condition of his new student, began teaching him the rigorous exercises of Taek Kyon to help build up his body. Yet another link between martial arts and calligraphy... they seem to crop up quite often dont they?
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 12:57 pm
And I shall you give you a brief Korean 101 class
poomse= form
shojak= begin (used in sparring, I'm just thinking of how it's spelled when it's said)
dojan= school
sabanim= instructor
hanamashimika= hello, how are you?
casamida= thank you
hana= one
dul= two
set= three
net= four
dusa= five
usa= six
igool= seven
yudur= eight
ayhoo= nine
yur= ten
This is just coming from how i think it's spelled.. I can be wrong.
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 4:51 pm
Moonlight Penguin And I shall you give you a brief Korean 101 class poomse= form shojak= begin (used in sparring, I'm just thinking of how it's spelled when it's said) dojan= school sabanim= instructor hanamashimika= hello, how are you? casamida= thank you hana= one dul= two set= three net= four dusa= five usa= six igool= seven yudur= eight ayhoo= nine yur= ten This is just coming from how i think it's spelled.. I can be wrong. The numbers are correct just from what I know about counting. But I always thought it was (I know this is spelled incorretly so I'm just spelling it how it sounds XP) sheejak
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 10:09 pm
Moonlight Penguin And I shall you give you a brief Korean 101 class poomse= form shojak= begin (used in sparring, I'm just thinking of how it's spelled when it's said) dojan= school sabanim= instructor hanamashimika= hello, how are you? casamida= thank you hana= one dul= two set= three net= four dusa= five usa= six igool= seven yudur= eight ayhoo= nine yur= ten This is just coming from how i think it's spelled.. I can be wrong. most of them are and you ran all your sylibals to gether thats a no no in korean seeing as hangul is sylibale based rather them word based im not shure of poomse because ive never heard of that word but the others i can help on seeing as my instructor let me borrow his book that teahces korean si jak-begin do chang-school Sa bom nim-master (crap greetings are writen in hangul and im still working on my pronuncinations sweatdrop ) Ha na-1 Dool-2 set-3 net-4 da sot-5 yuh sot-6 Il gop-7 yo dull-8 ah hope-9 yohl-10 im not being mean to you just trying to help you pronunce things right
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Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 4:36 am
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