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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 2:18 pm
I think this time, I'm gonna try to cram as much as possible into the first post, then start using the rest for vocab. Sound good? This one's very different from Kintarasesa. Still very "pretty", I think, but different. It'll probably have more complex grammar. Off to reserve........ 6? 6 is probably enough. Lïtihla basically means "sensible language". I've decided that the people who speak it call their whateverness Elvuhkï PhoneticsI don't think my system will often allow for lots of consonants to be placed together, but we'll see. REDONE THE PHONETICS BASED ON ...uhh. Well, not based on anything, since it came out of my own head and stuff, but I was writing and came up with new stuff. So. sweatdrop Currently, this is what exists: VOWELSa--short a as in "f ather" e--short e as in "y et" i--long e as in "b e" o--long o as in "g o" u--long u as in "b oo" (oo) é--long a as in "fr ay" [alt + 130] ï--short i as in "b it" [alt + 139] (I speak American English. I'm from SC, but I'm not a hick, redneck, whatever-you-call-a-Southern-Belle's-counterpart, or other stereotypical Southern accent. Ah eh ee oh oo ay ih.) CONSONANTS I used IPA Chart for English to find these values... easier for me to figure out IPA that way. If you think I've misunderstood the IPA, let me know.C -- /tʃ/ (English "ch") D -- /d/ H -- /x/ (aspirated CH or KH, ALWAYS pronounced, pretty much always placed right before a consonant. I've got sound samples~) J -- /ʒ/ (zh) K -- /k/ OR /ɡ/ .. it's kind of in between? ugh. Pick and go with it is fine. I tend to lean towards just saying the k sound anyway. It might end up being just that. (g/k) L -- /l/ N -- /n/ M -- /m/ P -- b/p. It's kind of in between. More like a p than a b, much like the k/g thing. Just pick one and go with it, you'll be fine. Q -- /θ/ (soft th) R -- /ɾ/ Spanish r (not trilled/rolled, just the r) S -- /s/ T -- /t/ V -- /v/ but near /f/ when at end of word X -- /ʃ/ (sh) Y -- /j/ English consonant Y. Usually placed in front of a vowel, as if it were a modifier. Combines with the consonant in front of it to alter the sound a little. Since you know the Y is always a consonant, you pretty much can figure out by SAYING the word how the consonant will change. IE, D + Y = J, or in IPA terms, /d/ + /j/ = /dʒ/. w007. I THINK this is it, but I could be wrong. I'll post if I change it.
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 2:19 pm
Grammar
Go forth and make thy nouns plural: Add "ji" to the end. Except for the pronouns. See the verb conjugation chart for more info. BTW, the hardest one to say is "they (feminine)". Sorry, ladies. Avoid travelling in groups.
Order/Function
Statements: SIVO or SVOI Questions: OIVS or OVIS
Verbs Present tense -iv: drop the -iv from the verb and add the endings: ïhl -u..............jihl -ut dahl -ét..........dahlji -és ehk -ik......ehkji -ikuj ehlc -ic......ehlci -icil
-av drop the -v from the verb and add the endings: ïhl -u..............jihl -uv dahl -jét..........dahlji -yés ehk -il......ehkji -ijil ehlc -im......ehlci -ijim
éiv: to be ïhl ur..............jihl urït dahl ét..........dahlji és ehk ik......ehkji ikuj ehlc ic......ehlci il
jav: to be ...followed by an emotion ïhl ju..............jihl juv dahl jét..........dahlji jés ehk jil......ehkji jixil ehlc jim......ehlci jixim
HOORAY, WE CAN DROP THE PRONOUNS. ( twisted )
Present Progressive ["form of be + ing"] Use present, or see "Future Tense -- Class 2" (below). They're used interchangeably.
Past tense vam Everything else? Put vam + conjugated in present tense. And that's the Past Tense. Simple past only. smile Don't worry, I still plan to have other tenses.
Future Tense Class 1: Doubt. Unreliable source, bad conditions, still in planning stages, etc. drop the -v from the verb biggrin Class 2: Absolute / near absolute certainty of what's going to happen: Same as Class 1, then say "bït". In the society, it's generally assumed that the future is completely undetermined until it is the past, so it's far rarer to hear "Class 2," even when you expect someone to be sure. Class 2 borders is often used as Present Progressive XD
It's generally a good idea to restate the subject~ But not required in a clear discussion where the topic is known the entire time. So "pilta" on the writing sample means [someone??] will go. But we don't know who ninja EVEN [TO BE] IS REGULAR. éi. It's as hard to say as ever, and you DO have to use pronouns, but... still. No conjugation.
Passive Present / Impersonal Present Add -an to the full verb. Feel free to give me a real name for this tense. It's just the passive voice, but in Lïtihla, it pretty much works on its own. As in... "They were mugged" or "'They' open the store at 6." (Meaning that there is no subject for the verb to take, for whatever reason.)
Commands -iv: drop the -v from the verb and add -o
-av drop the -av from the verb and add -é
Nouning! CASES I've decided to make stuff decline. If there are exceptions, I'll note it in with the word... I need to go back and check for exceptions already sweatdrop Examples to come when I'm done writing the rules smile
-Nominative (subjects) As Listed in wordlist ("Dictionary form")
-Accusative (direct objects) If there's a final vowel, drop it. Then add -a.
-Dative (indirect objects) If there's a final vowel, drop it. Then add -u.
-Genitive (possession, used solely as the " 's " here) If there's no final consonant (ends in a vowel), add -n. If it ends in a consonant, add -en.
-Prepositional (after prepositions) Same as nominative--no change to the dictionary form.
IN PROGRESS.
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 2:19 pm
On the nouns, where possible, I've started listing the male/feminine forms in the same entry. For example, véhlu(c) >> véhlu (m) and véhluc (f).
Vocabulary Articles (yes, I know, they're technically adjectives...) ek the (m) ec the (f) kum a/an (m) um a/an (f)
Conjunctions al and ci or pué but ké that
Pronouns ïhl I dahl you (singular) ehk he ehlc she jihl we dahlji you (plural) ehkji they (m/mix) ehlci they (f)
Nouns (gender matters for the sake of using the right adjectives, pretty much. If a word refers to a person, it will be listed twice to take care of gender) Lïtihla Lïtihla language (f) melo comfort (m) pitu journey (f) lajikanul strangeling, odd person (m) lajikanulic strangeling, odd person (f) **plural: lajikanulici [if all female only razz ] véhlu person (m) véhluc person (f) **plural: féhluci [if all female only razz ] éhlat brush for writing (f) méja calm, peace, serenity [not the opposite of war--personal peace] (f) tiulel fear, sadness (f) kejlan anger, fury, rage (m) dailuj happiness, giddiness (f) jenal love (f) ita-ketal weapon (m) **plural: ita-ketalvji lïtic conversation, dialogue (f) pitïl word (m) letvorx language (usually other than Lïtihla) (f) aleut bird, or any unidentified flyingthingy (m) nalutïl chicken ("unflybird") (m) xornak clothing (f) xïhtel pants* (m) xornut shirt, tunic, top-clothes (f) porcunik shoes (more like "damn footcovers") (m) --our style shoes xunik shoes (just "footcovers") (m) -- more like cloth tied to the soles of your feet for walking on bad ground... razz vén life nurq death ehlobïltahlu(c) student (lit. want-to-understand-person) bïltavehlu(c) someone who has mastered something (what a student becomes) harjïl storm
Verbs éiv to be **irregular! jav to feel __(emotion)__ **irregular! piltav to go lïtiliv to speak clearly and understandably bïltav to understand lajviv to speak gibberish tilativ to think, to contemplate, to reason netilav to think, to believe, to consider that something is so pakiv to acquire, to get, to attain penuliv to have halsiv to exist (the "there is/there are" verb, but use it in a sentence as "to exist") levlav to release, to let go ehloiv to want, to desire, to wish ecat to make, to create, to produce elutiv to fly hélsiv to live
Adjectives il good (m) iléc good (f) énurq(éc) dead hélsil(éc) alive
Adverbs todya still (as in "you're still trying to overclock a laptop??? neutral ") dyik yes dya yeah (informal affirmative) nyi-uoda no nyi not (negation of verb) ila well mo too/also [**declines like noun!! See poll wink ]
Prepositions (and yes, they are PREpositions.) vé in jat with vil by/through/because of/for lu on/for/because qé in order to/for/for the purpose of/"for to"
----------- Greetings avjo hello piul goodbye ét ila? How are you? (singular) [lit: Are you well?] és ila? How are you? (plural) [lit: Are you well?] etïl? Are you ok? (informal question) dyik. "yes", an appropriate response to "are you well?" dya. "yeah" a less formal response to "are you well?" ila. or ur ila. "Well." or "I'm well."
*Elvuhkï pants are AWESOME. Way cooler than our pants.
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 2:22 pm
reserved fo mo vocab, I think.
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 2:23 pm
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 2:28 pm
Want some practice reading? I got some practice writing.   What it says... Translit: ïhl ur éqan. Lïtilu spanyu al inklex al lïtihla. Véluji (should say véhluji D: ) netilaijil ké [p2 begins] ïhl ur lajikanul! éhlat n (why did I write that? I'm half asleep) nyi ic iléc. éqanTranslate (removing all my random miswritings) : I am Athan. I speak Spanish and English and Lïtihla. People think that I'm a freak! Brush is not good. Athan.
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 5:24 pm
PHRASES "I love you" :: "ïhl ju jenala dahlu." OR "ïhl dahlu ju jenala."
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 7:39 pm
I added that image from the conlang writing thread... so you can see the letters. whee.
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Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 1:32 pm
Redoing phonetics. I have some words, which I'll define... soon. Yeah.
Go look at the top post. That means you, Serali88 of the loving of the scripts.
*studies biology*
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Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 6:44 pm
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY! pretty scripty! mrgreen
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 9:39 am
aaaaaaaaaaand we have vocab and the future tense! WOO HOO!
I need to put up phonetics for realz.
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 9:46 am
Forgedawn aaaaaaaaaaand we have vocab and the future tense! WOO HOO! I need to put up phonetics for realz. Yeah, the words look cool and all, but I can't figure out how to pronounce them! xD And how are you using the umlauts? Like in German, or completely different? (Well, I mean, not like in German, cause German doesn't use them over an "i" but you know what I mean... sweatdrop )
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 9:51 am
Homurakitsune Forgedawn aaaaaaaaaaand we have vocab and the future tense! WOO HOO! I need to put up phonetics for realz. Yeah, the words look cool and all, but I can't figure out how to pronounce them! xD And how are you using the umlauts? Like in German, or completely different? (Well, I mean, not like in German, cause German doesn't use them over an "i" but you know what I mean... sweatdrop ) ï makes the short i sound like in "tick". The preceding h is pronounced O.O I had an explanation up... but then I took it down because I changed so much when I made the script (without access to my phonetics info). I like this better, actually biggrin If I get to use my microphone, I'll record some words. Right now, I'm about to back up my hard drive for the first time ever on my new external hard drive. This will take a while...
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 9:54 am
Forgedawn Homurakitsune Forgedawn aaaaaaaaaaand we have vocab and the future tense! WOO HOO! I need to put up phonetics for realz. Yeah, the words look cool and all, but I can't figure out how to pronounce them! xD And how are you using the umlauts? Like in German, or completely different? (Well, I mean, not like in German, cause German doesn't use them over an "i" but you know what I mean... sweatdrop ) ï makes the short i sound like in "tick". The preceding h is pronounced O.O I had an explanation up... but then I took it down because I changed so much when I made the script (without access to my phonetics info). I like this better, actually biggrin If I get to use my microphone, I'll record some words. Right now, I'm about to back up my hard drive for the first time ever on my new external hard drive. This will take a while... Oh, okay. ^_^
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 10:03 am
Homurakitsune Forgedawn Homurakitsune Forgedawn aaaaaaaaaaand we have vocab and the future tense! WOO HOO! I need to put up phonetics for realz. Yeah, the words look cool and all, but I can't figure out how to pronounce them! xD And how are you using the umlauts? Like in German, or completely different? (Well, I mean, not like in German, cause German doesn't use them over an "i" but you know what I mean... sweatdrop ) ï makes the short i sound like in "tick". The preceding h is pronounced O.O I had an explanation up... but then I took it down because I changed so much when I made the script (without access to my phonetics info). I like this better, actually biggrin If I get to use my microphone, I'll record some words. Right now, I'm about to back up my hard drive for the first time ever on my new external hard drive. This will take a while... Oh, okay. ^_^ also, "g/k" as noted in the script is written k and pronounced almost like a click, I guess... It's in between a g or a k, just pick one and go with it, I guess razz And zh is the zh sound as in pleasure, azure, etc. I might find another way of writing it later and rewrite that word's transliteration.
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