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 Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 9:12 pm
In my writing of fanfiction involving hikari/yami relationships, I have come across two great obstacles: facts from the Yugioh series itself and logic.
In the series (as far as I can tell) Yugi is supposed to be a reincarnation of Yami (Atem, Pharoah, Dark Yugi, etc.) Thus, it can be assumed that they're just separate manifestations of the same person. Also, Yami is not able to take physical form unless he takes over Yugi's body, in which case Yugi is in spirit form.
Given all that, how do they f***?
In my fics I just skip over the issue by putting Yugi and Yami into an alternate universe where they're already in separate bodies, etc.
If you've written yami/hikari fics, did you completely ignore this (like I did) or somehow explain around it?
If you've read yami/hikari fics, what did the author do about this?
Or you can just say "YamixYugi is so cute!" I'm good with that, too. heart
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 3:32 pm
I've thought that myself. I mean, even if they're not the same person, it's still them in a relationship with someone who looks like them. There's got to be a certain amount of narcissism in that. xd
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 6:51 pm
XD;; Interesting topic. However, I must argue that Yuugi is not a reincarnation of Atem... because a reincarnation is a soul being reborn into a new body. Since Atem's soul was trapped in the puzzle, it is impossible for Yuugi to be a reincarnated Atem. But either way, there is still some narcissim. XD;; I prefer with that couple to have them have a tough relationship, loving eachother but never being able to physically express it, through hugs, kissing, sex, or anything. But that adds interest and depth to the relationship. I tend to not care much for the fics where they have separate bodies, simply because most people don't explain why.
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:56 pm
KitsuneChan8888888 XD;; Interesting topic. However, I must argue that Yuugi is not a reincarnation of Atem... because a reincarnation is a soul being reborn into a new body. Since Atem's soul was trapped in the puzzle, it is impossible for Yuugi to be a reincarnated Atem. But either way, there is still some narcissim. XD;; I prefer with that couple to have them have a tough relationship, loving eachother but never being able to physically express it, through hugs, kissing, sex, or anything. But that adds interest and depth to the relationship. I tend to not care much for the fics where they have separate bodies, simply because most people don't explain why. I was always confused about that; at first I got the impression that Yugi was a reincarnation of Yami, but then... how is he a reincarnation if Yami's soul didn't go anywhere? Ha ha, plothole! And it is annoying when people don't explain how Yami magically has a separate body in some fics. I usually have to make myself ignore that in order to enjoy the fic.
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:54 am
It does appear that Yugi/Yami are quite narcistic but it also invokes fanfic readers to use their imagination because they have to try to work out a possible way for any yami/hikari pairing to exist. Plus they're so cute together. wink
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 3:56 pm
In some fanfictions, even though one's in the body and the other's in a spirit form, they can both interact with each other, so that explains the question in the center of your post. smile
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 6:11 pm
Lizzie the Meow KitsuneChan8888888 XD;; Interesting topic. However, I must argue that Yuugi is not a reincarnation of Atem... because a reincarnation is a soul being reborn into a new body. Since Atem's soul was trapped in the puzzle, it is impossible for Yuugi to be a reincarnated Atem. But either way, there is still some narcissim. XD;; I prefer with that couple to have them have a tough relationship, loving eachother but never being able to physically express it, through hugs, kissing, sex, or anything. But that adds interest and depth to the relationship. I tend to not care much for the fics where they have separate bodies, simply because most people don't explain why. I was always confused about that; at first I got the impression that Yugi was a reincarnation of Yami, but then... how is he a reincarnation if Yami's soul didn't go anywhere? Ha ha, plothole! And it is annoying when people don't explain how Yami magically has a separate body in some fics. I usually have to make myself ignore that in order to enjoy the fic. Maybe not a plothole but... XD;; Well, I don't recall the manga or the anime ever bluntly saying that anyone was a reincarnation of anyone. I always thought that was just the assumption of most fans. ^^;;
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:44 pm
MorganHimura In some fanfictions, even though one's in the body and the other's in a spirit form, they can both interact with each other, so that explains the question in the center of your post. smile Yeah, but what does "interaction" constitute? I mean, if one's not a body then there's no real way for them to physically touch. But yeah, some fanfics just make it so that they can interact anyways. Or there are some that have them both inside their soul rooms and they can interact there. I can buy that.
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:46 pm
KitsuneChan8888888 Lizzie the Meow KitsuneChan8888888 XD;; Interesting topic. However, I must argue that Yuugi is not a reincarnation of Atem... because a reincarnation is a soul being reborn into a new body. Since Atem's soul was trapped in the puzzle, it is impossible for Yuugi to be a reincarnated Atem. But either way, there is still some narcissim. XD;; I prefer with that couple to have them have a tough relationship, loving eachother but never being able to physically express it, through hugs, kissing, sex, or anything. But that adds interest and depth to the relationship. I tend to not care much for the fics where they have separate bodies, simply because most people don't explain why. I was always confused about that; at first I got the impression that Yugi was a reincarnation of Yami, but then... how is he a reincarnation if Yami's soul didn't go anywhere? Ha ha, plothole! And it is annoying when people don't explain how Yami magically has a separate body in some fics. I usually have to make myself ignore that in order to enjoy the fic. Maybe not a plothole but... XD;; Well, I don't recall the manga or the anime ever bluntly saying that anyone was a reincarnation of anyone. I always thought that was just the assumption of most fans. ^^;; Heh, you're right, that was my assumption. The biggest thing that made me make that assumption is that they look so much alike, as do Bakura and Yami Bakura. I can't think of any other reason that the author would do that.
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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 11:51 am
Lizzie: Well, I gave a lot of thought on that, and I've come under the impression that all of the "reincarnations" (Yuugi to Atem, Bakura to Bakura, Kaiba to Set, Isis to Isis, Sugoroku to Shimon, etc.) are instead more like... "sibling souls." You get me? ^^;; I mean, let's use the two Yuugis as an example: The two obviously have a lot of similarities, though are definitely not completely alike. Perhaps ever soul that has ever existed has a counterpart that it is connected to, even though most will never meet each other. (I'm referring to the YUU*GI*OU universe only of course) The two are like twins in a way, except in soul form. They could both exist at any time period in any place, because only the soul decides their connection, not where the bodies are born. So when Atem was sealed into the Sennen Puzzle, no one was able to solve it except Yuugi, because of the connection shared between the two souls. Atem would only let someone he felt comfortable with solve the Puzzle (though this was probably subconcious on Atem's part), and since Yuugi's soul was so similar to his own and the two had a brotherly connection, maybe he let Yuugi solve the Puzzle?
Of course, this is all just pure speculation. But I've found this idea to make the most sense to me at least...
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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 4:12 pm
KitsuneChan8888888 Lizzie: Well, I gave a lot of thought on that, and I've come under the impression that all of the "reincarnations" (Yuugi to Atem, Bakura to Bakura, Kaiba to Set, Isis to Isis, Sugoroku to Shimon, etc.) are instead more like... "sibling souls." You get me? ^^;; I mean, let's use the two Yuugis as an example: The two obviously have a lot of similarities, though are definitely not completely alike. Perhaps ever soul that has ever existed has a counterpart that it is connected to, even though most will never meet each other. (I'm referring to the YUU*GI*OU universe only of course) The two are like twins in a way, except in soul form. They could both exist at any time period in any place, because only the soul decides their connection, not where the bodies are born. So when Atem was sealed into the Sennen Puzzle, no one was able to solve it except Yuugi, because of the connection shared between the two souls. Atem would only let someone he felt comfortable with solve the Puzzle (though this was probably subconcious on Atem's part), and since Yuugi's soul was so similar to his own and the two had a brotherly connection, maybe he let Yuugi solve the Puzzle? Of course, this is all just pure speculation. But I've found this idea to make the most sense to me at least... Actually, that does make a lot of sense. Kudos!
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 1:22 pm
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Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 8:36 pm
blaugh SOUL ROOM SEX!! blaugh
heart It is love. heart
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Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:47 pm
Lightless Fire I've thought that myself. I mean, even if they're not the same person, it's still them in a relationship with someone who looks like them. There's got to be a certain amount of narcissism in that. xd As for that, I blame Atem. Yugi's the cuter version. So there. biggrin
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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 7:08 pm
I usually write alternate universes, but if I'm following canon -- which is very rare -- I find ways around it. O; They (the "yami" and "hikari") do have soulrooms, after all.
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