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 Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 6:43 pm
think of it for a little bit before you answer..
1. Crime in the USA is up, it may not be in your city but nationally it is.
2.Our own government is to s**t faced to know what the hell to do especially when he have a damn monkey as our leader.
We have lost the last 2 wars we were in. (Not Counting Iraq as a war cause that wasnt a war..that was a massacre and we didnt lose)
3.We spend billions of dollars to blow up other DEFENSELESS countrys when we have thousands of just children dying from starvation on our streets each day.
4.We are one revolutionary act from COMPLETE anarchy
Believe me it is coming..we the people are not united and we need a voice...
I was just wondering what you think
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:04 pm
I though you didn't like arguing? Because Debates like these could become really bloody. We are not in a state of anarchy because there is still a government. Could you maybe post some statistics for crime rate. And just because we lost 2 wars(which ones are you refering too?) doesn't mean were going to become anarchy. And I doubt that people are going to overthrow our government. They should be happy to live here. They could be much worse of living some where else. I also believe anarchy sucks and would only cause chaos.
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:28 pm
I dont like arguing over trivial things.
What i meant by the war thing was that it shows the decreasing competence of our government. And being in a state of Anarchy doesnt always mean there is no government it also means that the people are becoming restless with the government and are seeking changes. And your right about the people shoud be glad to lived here because our warlords that we call generals like to push the big red shiny button that say fire and blow up the other countries. Which puts them on the road to economic crisis. Look at Iraq as soon as US troops began to leave their government started to crumble. oh there is Desert storm , and Vietnam both big one that we lost. This nation is becoming power hungry and if history proves to be right than when the nation becomes to bad a revolution. Anarachy is how this nation was started and its how this nation will most likely end. You forgot to mention the children dying because of the billions spent on bombs and not them. Didnt the US come up with "The children are our future" them stop letting them ******** die
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:30 pm
Fightin_Irishman 1. Crime in the USA is up, it may not be in your city but nationally it is. I don't know what figures you're basing this off, but crime statistics are highly unreliable and only ever really give an impression of what crime is like in a country. Fightin_Irishman 2.Our own government is to s**t faced to know what the hell to do especially when he have a damn monkey as our leader. Bit sort of subjective to agree or disagree on. Fightin_Irishman We have lost the last 2 wars we were in. (Not Counting Iraq as a war cause that wasnt a war..that was a massacre and we didnt lose) The Iraq war is ongoing, whatever anyone says. Fightin_Irishman 3.We spend billions of dollars to blow up other DEFENSELESS countrys when we have thousands of just children dying from starvation on our streets each day. You're gonna have to start quoting some actual statistics on this at some point, you realise. From where I'm sitting, you have a foolish and arrogant government. You are not, however, in a state of anarchy. Trust me: things could be much worse.
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:39 pm
Fightin_Irishman I dont like arguing over trivial things. What i meant by the war thing was that it shows the decreasing competence of our government. And being in a state of Anarchy doesnt always mean there is no government it also means that the people are becoming restless with the government and are seeking changes. And your right about the people shoud be glad to lived here because our warlords that we call generals like to push the big red shiny button that say fire and blow up the other countries. Which puts them on the road to economic crisis. Look at Iraq as soon as US troops began to leave their government started to crumble. oh there is Desert storm , and Vietnam both big one that we lost. This nation is becoming power hungry and if history proves to be right than when the nation becomes to bad a revolution. Anarachy is how this nation was started and its how this nation will most likely end. You forgot to mention the children dying because of the billions spent on bombs and not them. Didnt the US come up with "The children are our future" them stop letting them ******** die No, our economy is pretty stable. And people have always been seeking changes in our government..and they always will...That doesn't mean they will revolt. And thats not what I ment by being glad to live here. In other places the government is alot crueler and more harsh on its people. And this is not a country where poverty runs rampant like in other countries. I ment to be glad because we don't live in a third world country. We are trying to set up a government in Iraq. Were bringing more troops in..Not leaving. And wasn't desert storm a hostage rescue mission? There was already a war in Vietnam going on so..
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:41 pm
Oh and the issue of drinkig beer is not trival. If we let everyone drink beer, then the rate of teens getting killed would increase.
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:42 pm
Foetus In Fetu Fightin_Irishman 1. Crime in the USA is up, it may not be in your city but nationally it is. I don't know what figures you're basing this off, but crime statistics are highly unreliable and only ever really give an impression of what crime is like in a country. Fightin_Irishman 2.Our own government is to s**t faced to know what the hell to do especially when he have a damn monkey as our leader. Bit sort of subjective to agree or disagree on. Fightin_Irishman We have lost the last 2 wars we were in. (Not Counting Iraq as a war cause that wasnt a war..that was a massacre and we didnt lose) The Iraq war is ongoing, whatever anyone says. Fightin_Irishman 3.We spend billions of dollars to blow up other DEFENSELESS countrys when we have thousands of just children dying from starvation on our streets each day. You're gonna have to start quoting some actual statistics on this at some point, you realise. From where I'm sitting, you have a foolish and arrogant government. You are not, however, in a state of anarchy. Trust me: things could be much worse. Arrogant meaning us thinking we are the strongest nation?
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:47 pm
I must say that the definition was a nice touch. But even webster isnt always right.
Your right, there are worse places but most of them are worse because of the USA. The only reason the USA is still in Iraq is because of the "American Pride". Im not against the troops being over there but enough people have died for IRAQS CIVIL WAR.But you dont live where I live. I have seen 10 year olds dealing crack, I have seen cops get the s**t beat out of them kinda shows people going against the government. And this is fort worth texas you can only imagine the kind of crime in a city like say New York that has 5 to 6 times the population. And i already know what your going to say "so i basing off a guess". Well no studies say that crime has been rising by 1% each year since Vietnam. The USA spends close to 80 billion on bombs alone, the school systems get 20 billion federal wise, state wise I do not know, poverty has been increasing due to inflation by .5% each year since 1985. Enough Statistics for you.?
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:52 pm
Fightin_Irishman I must say that the definition was a nice touch. But even webster isnt always right. Your right, there are worse places but most of them are worse because of the USA. The only reason the USA is still in Iraq is because of the "American Pride". Im not against the troops being over there but enough people have died for IRAQS CIVIL WAR.But you dont live where I live. I have seen 10 year olds dealing crack, I have seen cops get the s**t beat out of them kinda shows people going against the government. And this is fort worth texas you can only imagine the kind of crime in a city like say New York that has 5 to 6 times the population. And i already know what your going to say "so i basing off a guess". Well no studies say that crime has been rising by 1% each year since Vietnam. The USA spends close to 80 billion on bombs alone, the school systems get 20 billion federal wise, state wise I do not know, poverty has been increasing due to inflation by .5% each year since 1985. Enough Statistics for you.? We are the ones trying to stop the civil war..The only reason we are still in Iraq is Bush. Most people want out. Most places are not worse because of us. Did africa get this way because of us? Sudan? We are to blame for the Civil war in Iraq but I don't see us doing major damage anywhere else. New york is actually one of the safest cities in the nation.
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:55 pm
zach61092 No, our economy is pretty stable. And people have always been seeking changes in our government..and they always will...That doesn't mean they will revolt. And thats not what I ment by being glad to live here. In other places the government is alot crueler and more harsh on its people. And this is not a country where poverty runs rampant like in other countries. I ment to be glad because we don't live in a third world country. We are trying to set up a government in Iraq. Were bringing more troops in..Not leaving. And wasn't desert storm a hostage rescue mission? There was already a war in Vietnam going on so.. A hostage rescue doesnt take an army....and i dint mean our economy I meant the other countries.....
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 9:00 pm
Fightin_Irishman zach61092 No, our economy is pretty stable. And people have always been seeking changes in our government..and they always will...That doesn't mean they will revolt. And thats not what I ment by being glad to live here. In other places the government is alot crueler and more harsh on its people. And this is not a country where poverty runs rampant like in other countries. I ment to be glad because we don't live in a third world country. We are trying to set up a government in Iraq. Were bringing more troops in..Not leaving. And wasn't desert storm a hostage rescue mission? There was already a war in Vietnam going on so.. A hostage rescue doesnt take an army....and i dint mean our economy I meant the other countries..... Could you say specifically what countries we have destroyed?
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 9:00 pm
zach61092 Oh and the issue of drinkig beer is not trival. If we let everyone drink beer, then the rate of teens getting killed would increase. and where are your statistics to prove that point. Oh and his 3rd point I completely agree with. We go in and bomb the s**t out of 3rd world countries then give them money to better themsleves when in America we have people that have it just as bad or worse off than them and they get next to no help. And if you want proof turn on the news, no statistics needed there that is pretty much common knowledge at this point.
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 9:03 pm
Ubriacone zach61092 Oh and the issue of drinkig beer is not trival. If we let everyone drink beer, then the rate of teens getting killed would increase. and where are your statistics to prove that point. Oh and his 3rd point I completely agree with. We go in and bomb the s**t out of 3rd world countries then give them money to better themsleves when in America we have people that have it just as bad or worse off than them and they get next to no help. And if you want proof turn on the news, no statistics needed there that is pretty much common knowledge at this point. It's called common sense. The more teens drink, the more car crashes. It's also based on the fact that he tazered himself in the heart because of being drunk.
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 9:05 pm
We tried to help Russia after the Cold War....they are still messed up
Afghanistan....didnt do so good with them..not economically, we just blew them to pieces
Iraq...they are just plain screwed.......
We had a skirmish there for a while with Iran.....
Japan...i mean was the atom bomb completely necessary?
WW1.....we sent bombs to france, poland, germany, a couple in england, and the netherlands....halve of europe
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 9:07 pm
Young Adult Drinking Drivers (21- to 34-year-olds)
Young legal drinkers, ages 21- to 34-years-old, are responsible for more alcohol-related fatal crashes than any other age group. The existing data confirm that drivers in this age group:
* Comprise more than half of all the impaired drivers involved in alcohol-related fatal crashes
* Are responsible for more alcohol-related fatal crashes than any other age group
* Have the highest BACs in fatal crashes
* Are about twice as likely as other drivers to have experienced a prior crash
* Are four times more likely to have had their licenses suspended or revoked
* Are the most resistant to changing drinking and driving behavior
http://www.luhs.org/depts/injprev/Transprt/tran1-06.htm#Young Adult
That's YOUNG LEGAL drivers.
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