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 Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 3:49 am
"In abortion, I don't intend to kill a fetus. I intend to end my pregnancy. "
I dunno, maybe I'm just not bright enough to see how there's a difference. I'm just not subtle enough....
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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 8:08 am
Hon, don't even start with that one.
I hate how they use it. They used it against me in a debate once, and they were all "The purpose of abortion is to end the pregnancy, and the fetus dying is a byproduct of that."
My argument was that, whether intentionally or unintentionally, abortion has the same end: To end the pregnancy by killing the child. A child DIES in abortion, and they call it a "side effect"? Mhm.
Maybe I have too much empathy or something, but I wouldn't want to marginalize anyone's death by calling it a "side effect".
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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 12:25 pm
...... yeah right. and that children is called hypocracy. they're just rewording it to make themselves feel better. if they said "to kill a fetus" then they would actually have to admit that they are taking away a life.
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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 1:34 pm
yes, which lead to my gun analogy. if killing a fetus is merely a byproduct of abortion, murder is only the byrpoduct of firing a gun and should therefore be entirely legal, safe and free.
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:24 pm
"But your honor, I only meant to push the whiny catgirl off the cliff, I never intended for her to fall to her grisly death!!"
rolleyes
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:57 pm
I wouldnt be surprised if that was a line form an actual anime <.<
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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 1:20 pm
"Never meant to kill a fetus" case closed. they're knowingly and willingly destroying it.
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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 9:21 pm
Ok, in order to end a pregnancy the fetus must be destroyed. To destroy a fetus is to end a pregnancy. Same differnce no matter which way you say it. I am pretty sure this saying came about as to bring a positive light to a negative action. They are pro-choice and of course they wouldn't want to say something that others might take as horrible. By saing that they did not intend to kill the fetus many people just take it at face value.
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 10:10 am
a sadistic part of me hopes to hear that used by some wacko that bombed a clinic:
"I never wanted to kill anybody, i just wanted to get that clinic off the street"
As much as i despise them, their use of logic is often quite similar to pro choicers.
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 9:39 pm
Hmm im with you on that one. Either way it seems that you are killing something... it isnt a side affect there the same thing. At least to me. Then again they say if you kill puppies inside the mother its murder... but a fetus (being a baby in a secse) isnt murder?! Its amazing how people will twist things around to think there right. Abortion makes me sick and get me super emotional. Ugh see its starting already. neutral
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Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:55 am
I've never heard that. And they wouldn't call it murder, since puppies are animals.
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Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 9:12 am
I heard it on the animal channel in New York I think. Its where the animal police are actually allowed to carry fire arms and make arrest just like a normal cop would to a human.
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Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 9:31 am
But it's not murder, it's animal cruelty at best.
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Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 1:25 pm
No, actualy Ser. When it comes to police K9 units, those dogs have just as much protection over them as a police officer does. If the dog is hit by a car, its, well...nothing sadly. To the state any ways. I personaly feel every hit animal on the road is a tragedy. But i digress, if you kill a police dog, you can be charged with murdering an officer.
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Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 1:30 pm
Hmmm, really? Maybe abuse of police property, but I doubt murder.
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