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 Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 6:32 pm
So, we've all undoubtedly seen Zuko Alone, some (like myself) perhaps a little obsessively. Even those who didn't particularly like Zuko before this episode (again, like myself) were pulled in by Zuko's past, and the nifty little flashbacks.
One unsolved mystery of Zuko's past is the whereabouts of his mother, Ursa. One night she disappeared, and has, to OUR knowledge, never been seen again. The following morning, Azulon was found dead, with his apparant dying wish to have Ozai succeed him instead of Iroh.
The question is, just what the heck happened?!
I've entertained several ideas, but there are loopholes in each one.
The other thought nagging at the back of my mind is the supposed punishment that was supposed to be dealt out to Ozai. That is, Zuko be killed. This punishment is not what is bothering me, it's Zuko's mantra: Azula always lies, Azula always lies, Azula always lies... I'm just unsure whether she's lying or telling the truth. The punishment certainly seems fitting, but then, Azula always lies. However, there are exceptions to every rule...
So, you guys tell me your thoughts. What happened to Azulon? What happened to Ursa? What is the connection to Azula and Ozai? Where does Zuko fit in in all this?
(My, my, Fire Nation politics are so dreary.)
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 7:37 pm
My theory is that Azula wasn't lying, so Ursa had to murder Azulon to save her son, thus, she had to flee. Or she was executed at some point because of it. I can't remember what episode it was where Azula, in the form of a dragon, was tellikg Fire Lord Zuko to 'sleep, just like mother'.
The only thing that makes doubt that theory is the fact that it's a kids show confused
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 7:50 pm
Lemon M. My theory is that Azula wasn't lying, so Ursa had to murder Azulon to save her son, thus, she had to flee. Or she was executed at some point because of it. I can't remember what episode it was where Azula, in the form of a dragon, was tellikg Fire Lord Zuko to 'sleep, just like mother'. The only thing that makes doubt that theory is the fact that it's a kids show confused But then how does that whole 'Ozai gets throne instead of Iroh' thing come into play? As far as it being a kids' show... I'm not putting too much trust into that at this point. xD
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:05 pm
My guess is that he took over. Since his father was dead, and Iroh wasn't anywhere near, or in condition (you know, his son dead and stuff...) there was no one to stop him. Quote: As far as it being a kids' show... I'm not putting too much trust into that at this point. xD I'm with you there D: God, the finale crying
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Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 8:54 am
Either Ursa killed Azulon and ran away, or she was killed in Zuko's place instead. Either way, Ozai hates his son and wouldn't hesitate to kill him if he wasnt very useful in the end. but i think Zuko is lucky to be banished because his father now cant touch him unless one of his Croonies catch him and have him killed. yes i am calling his army croonies because they are. dont mind me... ninja
but who knows...i rather get the new eps on now instead of waiting forever for it...ugh. scream
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Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 1:16 pm
Shyao_Sorceress Either Ursa killed Azulon and ran away, or she was killed in Zuko's place instead. Either way, Ozai hates his son and wouldn't hesitate to kill him if he wasnt very useful in the end. but i think Zuko is lucky to be banished because his father now cant touch him unless one of his Croonies catch him and have him killed. yes i am calling his army croonies because they are. dont mind me... ninja but who knows...i rather get the new eps on now instead of waiting forever for it...ugh. scream Ahhh... so you think the reason that Ozai holds such contempt for his son is because he's the reason Ursa's gone? (I mean besides the whole 'not being as good as Azula and having morals' thing.) Hmmm. That's a good point.
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Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 8:01 am
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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 2:22 pm
Well
Remember when Azulon wanted to see how well Zuko and Azula's firebending are? Azula performed very well but Zuko's performance wasnt so good, right? Remember when Ozai reacted? he was pounting and was not very happy. it showed that he was never realy happy with Zuko anyway.
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 12:37 pm
The connection between Azula and Ozai is Ozai is Azula's father
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 3:49 pm
Silverkin354 The connection between Azula and Ozai is Ozai is Azula's father Yeah, I know. What do you think happened with the whole thing of Azulon dying and Ursa disappearing and Ozai getting the throne over Iroh, though?
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 2:28 pm
I have no real theories, but in a fanfic I was reading the writer kind of made it out like Ursa killed Azulon to save Zuko and fled to the Western Air Temple with the help of Iroh and Jeong Jeong. I thought that was an interesting theory. I'm sure it will go more into that in Book Three.
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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 6:28 am
Butterfly Nebula Silverkin354 The connection between Azula and Ozai is Ozai is Azula's father Yeah, I know. What do you think happened with the whole thing of Azulon dying and Ursa disappearing and Ozai getting the throne over Iroh, though? well i think Ozai was more favorited than Iroh and in the time where Iroh wasn't fire lord his line between Zuko became stronger and he learned that being fire lord puts you in power, but with that power Ozai is full of him self that's why Zuko has to complete the hardest task in the world: capturing the avatar before he can come back home and restore his honor as Prince Zuko and someday have a chance of fire lord,
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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 7:27 am
Shyao_Sorceress Well Remember when Azulon wanted to see how well Zuko and Azula's firebending are? Azula performed very well but Zuko's performance wasnt so good, right? Remember when Ozai reacted? he was pounting and was not very happy. it showed that he was never realy happy with Zuko anyway. i agree Ozai favorited Azula more than Zuko just as Ozai's father favorited him more than Iroh, but even if Zuko's performance was better (whitch is never gonna happen) Ozai would probably still favorite Azula. and because of Zuko's bad performance and Azula's good performance, it says to Ozai Azula's trains hard and practices and will be ready if attack happens, it also says to him Zuko doesn't care about his performance or fire bending and he does not train nor practice his fire bending moves, but when Zuko travels away with Iroh thar changes his life, he kind of forgets about capturing the avatar and narrows his life down to having a good time, and being with Iroh calms him and teaches him about the 4 nations and how they use there bending powers, Zuko also tries out some very powerful moves that Iroh taught him, but they are aslo very dangerous. Azula always lied to Zuko to either get him in trouble or get him angry, but it was 60% Iroh's fault that Zuko got banished and 40% Zuko's fault, Iroh was at fault because he let Zuko come in with him for the invading and taking other the world talk, but Zuko was at fault because he stood up and inturrupted the General, but if Iroh hadn't let him in none of this would evr happen there would not evean be an avatar the last airbender show. So everyone say thank you to Iroh!!! mrgreen mrgreen mrgreen 4laugh rofl
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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 7:30 am
Also Ursa kinda didn't want Ozai to get the throne so i think that's why she dissapered and Azulon died cause he was super old. xd
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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 8:53 pm
Silverkin354 Also Ursa kinda didn't want Ozai to get the throne so i think that's why she dissapered and Azulon died cause he was super old. xd I dunno. It just seems a little TOO coincidental to me.
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