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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 2:11 pm
We talk a lot about this in our world civ class. What is your ideal government? Communism, Monarchy, limited Monarchy,Republic, Democracy....Anarchy.... Or something completely your own?
Also what are your opinions on the ones listed.
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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 3:14 pm
Hmmmmmm... tough choice... Communism if done right is a wonderful thing. (IT HASN'T BEEN DONE RIGHT YET. D:<) But, I'd have to stick to good, ole, democracy.
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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 5:01 pm
Very true, comunism has not been reached...only socialism. and I have my opinions on why which I would post but I dont want to get anyone angry.
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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 5:02 pm
I agree with Gnomebob. As a matter of fact, any government has the potential to be perfect if executed right. Communism is a perfect example. But, I'd say the best kind of government is the kind we have: Federal constitutional republic. :]
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Cynical Rainbows Vice Captain
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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 5:02 pm
John.D.W. Very true, comunism has not been reached...only socialism. and I have my opinions on why which I would post but I dont want to get anyone angry. Go ahead and post your opinions! That's the whole reason Washu and I made this forum. :]
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Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 2:58 am
I.. don't know. XD I was begging for this forum and when it's made I have nothing to say. XD
I will actually freely admit that I'm a little ignorant. Would you possibly give a little outline about what each of the options is about? I've heard a lot about communism from some russian and romanian friends and it seems to not be the same thing that everyone else tells me communism is.
So to be honest I'm a little confused. I also have a couple Anarcist friends and they seem to be the most intelligent and clear thinking people I've ever know, so until I know what everything else is I'll go with that.
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Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 4:13 am
Well First I will explain my thoughts about and ideal communism. It is almost impossible. Most people want power. With Socialism, they have that power. The only way to get to communism (according to Karl Marx) is socialism. They need to have power, yet they need to be able to give it up. There is NO government in communism, everyone is equal with in the country; however, there is always one person who wants power correct? Power is not the only issue. There is also this: HOW are they going to take back and redistribute money, land, etc. People dont have the same jobs, some people do more then others, will a fast food restraunt clerk make as much as a CEO of a major company? I wish. Karl Marx just explained his perfect governmet, he didnt tell anyone how to reach it. To IceintheInk, I will explain your question when i get to school xd
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Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 12:07 pm
OK To Everyone not just iceintheink. Thank you dictionary.com sweatdrop
Communism: a theory or system of social organization based on the holding of all property in common, actual ownership being ascribed to the community as a whole or to the state.
Monarchy: a state or nation in which the supreme power is actually or nominally lodged in a monarch. Compare absolute monarchy, limited monarchy.
Limited Monarchy: a monarchy that is limited by laws and a constitution.
Republic: a state in which the supreme power rests in the body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by representatives chosen directly or indirectly by them.
Democracy: government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system.
Anarchy is a little more SO: 1. a state of society without government or law. 2. political and social disorder due to the absence of governmental control: The death of the king was followed by a year of anarchy. 3. a theory that regards the absence of all direct or coercive government as a political ideal and that proposes the cooperative and voluntary association of individuals and groups as the principal mode of organized society. 4. confusion; chaos; disorder: Intellectual and moral anarchy followed his loss of faith.
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Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 8:24 pm
Uh... I really can't say. Nothing exept Democracy has worked out so far.
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Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 8:29 pm
The United States is a republic. A federal constitutional republic, to be exact. Democracy 1. government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system. Republic 1. a state in which the supreme power rests in the body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by representatives chosen directly or indirectly by them. The US being called a "democracy" is a common misconception, and not a difficult mistake to make. The difference is that not all the power is vested in the people here.
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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 3:45 am
Democracy sounds the best option to me. I would love the idea of Anarchy, but I believe most people are too corrupt and petty for that to happen. All we'd have is gangs.
Communism sounded good at first but it actually sounds a little creepy. It wouldn't work.
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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 8:29 am
Ithink if asort of Anarchic style Democracy would work. The fact that Anarchy is Supposed to be modifiable would play in that so that there are more Anarchic Principles used and beleived while still keeping Democracy, and I mean REAL Domacracy not American Faux-ocracy. I know this is spelled horribly. but I'm really tired.
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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 9:46 am
Cynical Rainbows The United States is a republic. A federal constitutional republic, to be exact. Democracy 1. government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system. Republic 1. a state in which the supreme power rests in the body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by representatives chosen directly or indirectly by them. The US being called a "democracy" is a common misconception, and not a difficult mistake to make. The difference is that not all the power is vested in the people here. Very true. America is always mistaken for a democracy, even by its own people.
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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 10:21 am
OMG. I HATE anarchists. anarchy is IMPOSSIBLE. with anarchy comes revolution, so...........? the idea sounds ok to some people, but every one needs some direction, or example to follow. anarchy does not solve anything.
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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 10:58 am
Remember this:
Anarchy is not a government, but a lack of thereof. That's like saying your religion is Atheist. XD
Anarchy= Lack of Government Atheism = Lack of Religion
You get the idea.
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