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 Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 11:33 pm
To start....yes I know, I know; I already have this in the Classical/Jazz/Blues forum. However, I believe it will serve a useful purpose here too, and I can get more input on it, so I'm also adding this list here. So here it goes....
Let's take a hypthothetical situation and put to good use in a way that will hopefully be useful to alot of us. Assume that you're trying to introduce someone to classical (umbrella term) music and you want them to give them a good starting point by introducing them to the best composers of each era. Not the most accessible ones, but the best of the Romantic, Baroque, and Classical eras, along with "modern" for composers such as Stravinsky, Holst, and Gorecki. And for the hell of it...let's include opera, too (composers and the great operas they wrote) Just make sure to include the era with the composers if you can. (If the composer is transitional (i.e. Beethoven) feel free to name them as being from both eras)
Baroque
Tomaso Albinoni
J.S. Bach
Luigi Boccherini
Christoph Willibald Gluck
George Frideric Handel
Johann Pachelbel
Domenico Scarlatti
Georg Philipp Telemann
Antonio Vivaldi
Classical
C.P.E. Bach
Ludwig Van Beethoven
Luigi Boccherini
Muzio Clementi
Joseph Haydn
Leopold Mozart
Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
Giovanni Pergolesi
Franz Schubert
Romantic
Bela Bartok
Ludwig Van Beethoven
Hector Berlioz
Alexander Borodin
Johannes Brahms
Anton Bruckner
Frederic Chopin
Claude Debussy
Antonin Dvorak
Edward Elgar
Mikhail Glinka
Edvard Grieg
Gustav Holst
Franz Liszt
Gustav Mahler
Felix Mendelssohn
Modest Mussorgsky
Niccolò Paganini
Sergei Prokofieff
Sergei Rachmaninoff
Maurice Ravel
Ottorino Respighi
Nikolai Rimsky-Korsakov
Camille Saint-Saens
Erik Satie
Franz Schmidt
Franz Schubert
Robert Schumann
Alexander Scriabin
Jean Sibelius
Bedrich Smetana
Johan Strauss II
Richard Strauss
Peter Tchaikovsky
Carl Maria von Weber
Modern
Bela Bartok
Aaron Copland
Claude Debussy
Edward Elgar
George Gershwin
Henryk Gorecki
Philip Glass
Gustav Holst
Alan Hovhaness
Aram Khachaturian
Sergei Prokofieff
Maurice Ravel
Ottorino Respighi
John Rutter
Erik Satie
Franz Schmidt
Alexander Scriabin
Dimitri Shostakovich
Richard Strauss
Igor Stravinsky
Opera
Ludwig van Beethoven -- Fidelio
Vincenzo Bellini -- La Sonnambula, Norma, I Puritani
Georges Bizet -- Carmen
Alexander Borodin -- Prince Igor
Claude Debussy -- Pelleas et Melisande
Gaetano Donizetti -- Lucia di Lammermoor
Christoph Gluck -- Orfeo ed Euridice, Iphigenie en Tauride
Charles Gounod -- Faust
George Frideric Handel -- Flavio, Orlando, Tamerlano
Ruggero Leoncavallo - I Pagliacci
Pietro Mascagni -- Cavalleria Rusticana
Jules Massenet -- Esclarmonde, Manon, Werther
Giacimo Meyerbeer -- L'Africaine, Les Huguenots
Claudio Monteverdi -- La Favola d' Orfeo, L'Incoronazione di Poppea
Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart -- Don Giovanni, The Magic Flute, Cosi fan tutte, Le nozze di Figaro
Giacomo Puccini -- Madame Butterfly, La Boheme, Tosca, Turandot, Manon Lescaut
Nikolai Rimsky-Korsakov -- Tzars bride, Sadko
Gioacchino Rossini -- Barber Of Seville
Camille Saint-Saens -- Samson & Dalila
Piotr Ilyitch Tchaikovsky -- Eugen Onegin, Queen of Spades, Iolanthe
Giuseppe Verdi -- Aida, Falstaff, Macbeth, Otello, Rigoletto, La Traviata, Il Trovatore
Richard Wagner -- Der Ring des Nibelungen (the Ring Cycle), Die Meistersinger..., The Flying Dutchman, Lohengrin, Tannheuser, Tristan und Isolde
As you can all see...the Baroque and Classical eras need some serious help. xp
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 8:58 am
Modern --
Copland
Ravel
Opera --
Georges Bizet -- Carmen
Tchaikovsky -- Romeo and Juliet
Baroque --
Scarlatti
(Other than that, you got all of the notable Baroque composers!)
Classical --
Leopold Mozart (His father)
Schubert
Romantic --
Schubert
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 9:51 am
I already have Ravel, but thanks for all the help. 3nodding
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 10:38 am
Harvested Sorrow I already have Ravel, but thanks for all the help. 3nodding Oh yeah, I guess I didn't see that. It's a great list.
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:04 am
What about Satie? I suppose I would classify him somewhere between the Romantic and the Modern..
(Hooray for Rimsky-Korsakov!)
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:06 am
What about Respighi? He's a romantic, I guess.
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 12:20 pm
I don't have time right now, but I'll check on the eras of those just listed, later. I love Wikipedia. heart
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 5:17 pm
I think I posted this in the other forum, but you don't have a Renaissance... Monteverdi and Palestrina. smile I loooove Palestrina.
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 12:40 am
I explained why I don't have Renaissance in the other forum, too. xp
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 9:50 am
Harvested Sorrow Romantic *names* Camille Saint-Saens *more names* ... mrgreen Yeah, I joined Gaia about the time we were playing Danse Bacchanale in band. And I couldn't think of a good name. So I used his! Without the Camille, of course. I didn't want to totally copy his name. Anyways, an orchestral piece as a band arragement that didn't sound half bad. It was a good arrangement overall, but they left out the light part with the strings and the flutes about 5 minutes into the song. We didn't play the last part very fast though, and that really upset me. It's my favorite part. But enough rambling. And you can't forget those endless composers for the instructional books. domokun
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 12:04 pm
For classical, why not Muzio Clementi? I always thought he had a few sonatinas that were always worth looking into...
Beyond that, I think you have a very competant list. I'd add Gounod's 'Faust' onto the opera list, but I think that's more personal bias rather than essential listening.
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 4:08 pm
fuokohopin For classical, why not Muzio Clementi? I always thought he had a few sonatinas that were always worth looking into... Beyond that, I think you have a very competant list. I'd add Gounod's 'Faust' onto the opera list, but I think that's more personal bias rather than essential listening. Can you give more information on Faust? I've heard of a poem Faust but not an opera -- oh hell, let me go take a look at that site to get more information, if I can FIND IT. stressed EDIT: Found it...I was thinking Vondel's Lucifer, which HERR are planning to make into a sort of mini-neo-opera I guess you'd call it. o_O (it's going to be on two full length albums, released separately) I recall hearing about a metal band working with an orchestra in a series of perfomances of Faust (a rather good metal band at that, apparently) so I probably got those two confused somehow, even though HERR isn't metal. Dammit, I WILL cause some people here to gain interest in this band.
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Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 6:16 am
Harvested Sorrow fuokohopin For classical, why not Muzio Clementi? I always thought he had a few sonatinas that were always worth looking into... Beyond that, I think you have a very competant list. I'd add Gounod's 'Faust' onto the opera list, but I think that's more personal bias rather than essential listening. Can you give more information on Faust? I've heard of a poem Faust but not an opera -- oh hell, let me go take a look at that site to get more information, if I can FIND IT. stressed EDIT: Found it...I was thinking Vondel's Lucifer, which HERR are planning to make into a sort of mini-neo-opera I guess you'd call it. o_O (it's going to be on two full length albums, released separately) I recall hearing about a metal band working with an orchestra in a series of perfomances of Faust (a rather good metal band at that, apparently) so I probably got those two confused somehow, even though HERR isn't metal. Dammit, I WILL cause some people here to gain interest in this band.*applauds* I was introduced to the opera before I was introduced to the poem. One of these days I'll get around to reading Goethe's Faust, but until then I'll simply drown myself in lovely Gounod's music.
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Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 7:17 am
Leonard Bernstein for Modern.
"Rondo for Lifey" makes me happy. I must learn to play it someday.
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Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 9:01 am
fuokohopin Harvested Sorrow fuokohopin For classical, why not Muzio Clementi? I always thought he had a few sonatinas that were always worth looking into... Beyond that, I think you have a very competant list. I'd add Gounod's 'Faust' onto the opera list, but I think that's more personal bias rather than essential listening. Can you give more information on Faust? I've heard of a poem Faust but not an opera -- oh hell, let me go take a look at that site to get more information, if I can FIND IT. stressed EDIT: Found it...I was thinking Vondel's Lucifer, which HERR are planning to make into a sort of mini-neo-opera I guess you'd call it. o_O (it's going to be on two full length albums, released separately) I recall hearing about a metal band working with an orchestra in a series of perfomances of Faust (a rather good metal band at that, apparently) so I probably got those two confused somehow, even though HERR isn't metal. Dammit, I WILL cause some people here to gain interest in this band.*applauds* I was introduced to the opera before I was introduced to the poem. One of these days I'll get around to reading Goethe's Faust, but until then I'll simply drown myself in lovely Gounod's music. If I recall, they believe that people don't have enough exposure to the poem which they feel is a great piece...hence, why they think they should make a neo-opera about it. (H.E.R.R. I mean)
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