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I understand. But I think this guild needs a place to talk about labels, that's all.

I definitely understand why the rules are there, but I can also see your point. It wouldn't hurt to try having a place to share stories and such. If it got out of hand, it could always be deleted, right?

Ahh, it seems you weren't around when about every third topic was about "I hAtE EmOs111!!!11!!!! lOl" or "Wat Ish Goth" for the 23rd time. The simple fact of the matter was the ruling wasn't made to be mean or unjust, it was because the guild itself was becoming flooded with threads about different labels and if people fell under them or not. A lot of the threads themselves were *coughs* Poorly constructed and only instigating arguments instead of being constructive or useful. That's the only reason I instigated any action against them.

This guild is for the members though. If enough people voice that they wish for the temp. ban on labeling threads to be lifted, then it will be done, under the stipulation that new label related threads have to be well thought out and well constructed. I don't want to see any threads along the lines of "all people who do ____ are real goths, and everyone else is just a posser" because that really just is hurtful to everyone else who doesn't do blank and still consider themselves as goths.

I'll set the number at 100 signatures. If you can get 100 signatures without protests from other members (which would be equivalant to canceling each signature) then the ban shall be lifted.

Also, as a final note, the ban wasn't on the threads all together, just on creating new ones because there were a multitude of threads already in place and people were creating more threads just because.

I completely agree here. I think a lot of people start threads about their problems instead of posting in the rantbox because most people never read the rantbox.

A subforum might give people a chance to get things out and find some moral support without clogging the main forum or annoying members who'd rather not hear about it. Any thoughts, Lurichan and moderator crowd?

As for the labels, they really did get out of control. There are still plenty of threads where people could post their thoughts without starting new ones (though most of them have been bumped off the first page by now).

Personally, I don't like the idea of a label sticky. It gives the impression that the guild as a whole considers labels to be important, and it could lead to one-upmanship, exclusion, and endless arguments that people are never going to agree on. What's the attraction in pigeonholing people anyway? Can't we share the things we like without arguing about what it means to like them?

Ditto that with a side of blood an' curly fries. A life issues/complaints subforum would probably get a lot more attention than the Rantbox on its own. I'll contribute something to the guild account for it.

Just to warn you, using one o' those can back fire... badly, believe me, I just hope it doesn't end up like the one in the emo guild. -_-