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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 5:48 pm
Talk about different stretches here, get advice on what stretches would be good for you, what ones you do at class & home, etc.
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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 5:49 pm
Danilova anybody? god I hate going from side to front with that one ;.;
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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 5:52 pm
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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 6:55 pm
I personaly think that even when you're not fully in the splits, if you work in oversplits the 180 degrees splits are soo much easier.
Also for you back, maybe put arabesque (spelling?) on the barre then bend back.
Just some stretches that work for me.
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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 7:14 pm
Hmmmmmmm the most effective stretch I've done as a late starter with flat feet is:
Stand at the barre in a wiiiiiiiiiiiiiide second position. Plie veeeeeery slowly making sure that your butt and ribs aren't sticking out. The slower and wider, the better. Now after you're done plie-ing por de bra (sp) to the side, take it to the back making sure your elbows are touching your sides and then take it to the other side. This exercise will imensely help your turnout and back.
Next one is where you stay in the same huuuge second position facing the barre and plie as deep as you can go. Now releve while still in the plie. Try this slow then fast. This exercise will help your feet very much.
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Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 7:30 pm
there are plenty of stretches that you can do it also depends on what you want to stretch... there is the frog the middle splits the left sided splits and right sided splits for the middle if its to painful on your knees, you can go up to a wall, and lie on your back with your but against the wall and open your legs, so it looks like you are doing the splits in the air. you can do splits on the barre, over splits also this is one i like to do... go into left or right sided splits and bend your back knee up so your toes are reaching for the cealing, then grab your foot with whatever hand you want, pull it backwards and try to get your head to touch your toes there is also another couple i like 1. go to the barre and devlope' your leg devant, (while holding it with your hand) then pull it towards to alla seconde' then strewtch out your hips by bending it forwards and backwards 2. bring your back leg into attatude holding onto your knee, (while holding on to the barre with other hand) then put your body forward, bringing your leg higher, you could also devlopee' it so your in ponchee' those are a few i know a hole lot! so yha whee sweatdrop
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Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 11:26 pm
I love stretching! biggrin
(Just got back from pointe so I'm nice and bendy. 3nodding )
Anyhoo, for turnout I do something completely different. At barre, stand in fifth, holding fifth (without forcing - or die of knee problems later on in life) while por de bra back and forwards very slowly. And then after eight repetitions take a balance fifth, come back down, plie and relax. And then repeat. It works wonders for your turnout. My gorgeous (I'm so proud of it) turnout is 180 (finally) and that's what I did to help it. Just for 15 minutes a day - por de bra in fifth back and forwards.
Also, PNF stretching is brilliant. *nod*
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:10 am
Ivorina Hmmmmmmm the most effective stretch I've done as a late starter with flat feet is:
Stand at the barre in a wiiiiiiiiiiiiiide second position. Plie veeeeeery slowly making sure that your butt and ribs aren't sticking out. The slower and wider, the better. Now after you're done plie-ing por de bra (sp) to the side, take it to the back making sure your elbows are touching your sides and then take it to the other side. This exercise will imensely help your turnout and back.
Next one is where you stay in the same huuuge second position facing the barre and plie as deep as you can go. Now releve while still in the plie. Try this slow then fast. This exercise will help your feet very much.
heart How late did you start? I'm a super late starter with bad/stiff feet.
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 11:07 pm
Avis Rara Ivorina Hmmmmmmm the most effective stretch I've done as a late starter with flat feet is:
Stand at the barre in a wiiiiiiiiiiiiiide second position. Plie veeeeeery slowly making sure that your butt and ribs aren't sticking out. The slower and wider, the better. Now after you're done plie-ing por de bra (sp) to the side, take it to the back making sure your elbows are touching your sides and then take it to the other side. This exercise will imensely help your turnout and back.
Next one is where you stay in the same huuuge second position facing the barre and plie as deep as you can go. Now releve while still in the plie. Try this slow then fast. This exercise will help your feet very much.
heart How late did you start? I'm a super late starter with bad/stiff feet. I started only a year ago (I'm 17 now). I did alot of releves at first and some massages. (Massages as in: massaging the arch of your foot so that the arch can be slowly risen. It doesn't help DRAMATICALLY but it does make a difference. 3nodding ) Also, when you're just sitting around at work or school or whatever, just point your toes. Relax and point. Relax and point. That helps alot with just strengthening and with arches as well. 3nodding Also conditions your feet to pointing all the time - especially when they're not touching the ground. smile
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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 9:10 am
Avis Rara Ivorina Hmmmmmmm the most effective stretch I've done as a late starter with flat feet is:
Stand at the barre in a wiiiiiiiiiiiiiide second position. Plie veeeeeery slowly making sure that your butt and ribs aren't sticking out. The slower and wider, the better. Now after you're done plie-ing por de bra (sp) to the side, take it to the back making sure your elbows are touching your sides and then take it to the other side. This exercise will imensely help your turnout and back.
Next one is where you stay in the same huuuge second position facing the barre and plie as deep as you can go. Now releve while still in the plie. Try this slow then fast. This exercise will help your feet very much.
heart How late did you start? I'm a super late starter with bad/stiff feet. I started when I was 13 but I know a kirov dancer who started when she was 18 (and she's excellent!! I can't remember her name though...)
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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 9:14 am
xx_turkish_delite_xx Avis Rara Ivorina Hmmmmmmm the most effective stretch I've done as a late starter with flat feet is:
Stand at the barre in a wiiiiiiiiiiiiiide second position. Plie veeeeeery slowly making sure that your butt and ribs aren't sticking out. The slower and wider, the better. Now after you're done plie-ing por de bra (sp) to the side, take it to the back making sure your elbows are touching your sides and then take it to the other side. This exercise will imensely help your turnout and back.
Next one is where you stay in the same huuuge second position facing the barre and plie as deep as you can go. Now releve while still in the plie. Try this slow then fast. This exercise will help your feet very much.
heart How late did you start? I'm a super late starter with bad/stiff feet. I started only a year ago (I'm 17 now). I did alot of releves at first and some massages. (Massages as in: massaging the arch of your foot so that the arch can be slowly risen. It doesn't help DRAMATICALLY but it does make a difference. 3nodding ) Also, when you're just sitting around at work or school or whatever, just point your toes. Relax and point. Relax and point. That helps alot with just strengthening and with arches as well. 3nodding Also conditions your feet to pointing all the time - especially when they're not touching the ground. smile Oh yeah that reminds me, I also bought some expensive arch supports. (they sell an even better kind now that are cheaper apparently!) They do wonders for your entire body. I learned that walking around with turnout all the time was what was making my feet flatter. I try to walk now without sticking out my ribs so much and with my feet pointed straight ahead (like as though you were walking on the edge of a curb or something) I know it sounds strange but just the way you walk can effect how you dance. Just look at how people with high arches walk sometime and try to mimic them.
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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 10:25 pm
as a sixteen year old with virtually no turnout... is there any hope of improving it with any certain stretches quickly without resulting in injury? im just wondering... i've actually had crap turnout all my life... which has resulted in overcompensation from my knees which has been very bad... sweatdrop
any suggestions are appreciated.
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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 11:17 pm
Alluvion Angel as a sixteen year old with virtually no turnout... is there any hope of improving it with any certain stretches quickly without resulting in injury? im just wondering... i've actually had crap turnout all my life... which has resulted in overcompensation from my knees which has been very bad... sweatdrop any suggestions are appreciated. Here you go, it's a sticky. :3 Turnout Exercises Link
Hope they're of help. *nod*
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:05 pm
Ivorina xx_turkish_delite_xx Avis Rara Ivorina Hmmmmmmm the most effective stretch I've done as a late starter with flat feet is:
Stand at the barre in a wiiiiiiiiiiiiiide second position. Plie veeeeeery slowly making sure that your butt and ribs aren't sticking out. The slower and wider, the better. Now after you're done plie-ing por de bra (sp) to the side, take it to the back making sure your elbows are touching your sides and then take it to the other side. This exercise will imensely help your turnout and back.
Next one is where you stay in the same huuuge second position facing the barre and plie as deep as you can go. Now releve while still in the plie. Try this slow then fast. This exercise will help your feet very much.
heart How late did you start? I'm a super late starter with bad/stiff feet. I started only a year ago (I'm 17 now). I did alot of releves at first and some massages. (Massages as in: massaging the arch of your foot so that the arch can be slowly risen. It doesn't help DRAMATICALLY but it does make a difference. 3nodding ) Also, when you're just sitting around at work or school or whatever, just point your toes. Relax and point. Relax and point. That helps alot with just strengthening and with arches as well. 3nodding Also conditions your feet to pointing all the time - especially when they're not touching the ground. smile Oh yeah that reminds me, I also bought some expensive arch supports. (they sell an even better kind now that are cheaper apparently!) They do wonders for your entire body. I learned that walking around with turnout all the time was what was making my feet flatter. I try to walk now without sticking out my ribs so much and with my feet pointed straight ahead (like as though you were walking on the edge of a curb or something) I know it sounds strange but just the way you walk can effect how you dance. Just look at how people with high arches walk sometime and try to mimic them.I'll try some arch supports. Thanks ^_^ I started dance when I was 19. The thing is I have weird feet I guess. They are super strong with an ok arch when I'm standing flat, but when I pointe them, they just don't move at all. I have to bend at the ankle entirely. It's like my arches were made of cement! My teacher said that after only six months of ballet that I was strong enough to stand enpointe without pointe shoes (though I was not fully ready for pointe for another two years due to lack of technique/training, and no one should ever stand enpointe with out proper shoes). I'm thinking of that tennis ball exercise. Do you know if that works? I have flex bands, but they just seem to make them even stronger, and more stiff. =
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:15 pm
I do know one good stretch for the ankles 3nodding
My physical therapist swore by this:
1. Just get down on your knees, and place your knees hip width apart.
2. Place a rolled up towel (or a rounded foam yoga aid) under the tips of your feet.
3. make sure your feet are not turned out, or in at all, and sit down on your heels. Hold this for at least 30 seconds, or as long as you like.
4. when your done make sure to stretch your ankles the other way as well. plies work for that just fine.
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