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 Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:00 pm
Here's an excerpt I wrote on it in my LJ:
Although, it having been written by C.S. Lewis, a theologian, I was presented with a very interesting concept. Aslan is obviously supposed to represent Jesus, and at the end, when one of the Calormenes (they're kinda like the Middle Easterners of Narnia) comes face to face with Aslan, he says to him that he's not Aslan's child, but Tash's (Tash was the Calormene god), because he spent his whole life worshipping and seeking after Tash. But Aslan comments that anything good he did in the name of Tash or for Tash was actually done in the name of and for Aslan, and anything done bad in the name of or for Tash was in the name of and for Tash (since Tash represents the blood-thirsty pagan gods that require child sacrifice and things like that (I don't think people have practices like that anymore, but you get the parallel)), and that really, his heart was seeking Aslan even though he didn't know it. So I wonder if the same can be said of God and Jesus. People who do good things in the name of their god, is it possible that they're actually doing it in the name of Jesus without realizing it? And are their hearts really seeking after Jesus when they don't realize it? I think it's possible. In the end, the Calormene was accepted into Aslan's country (Heaven), because he had been devout to Tash. So can people be saved even when they are devout to their own gods? It makes me wonder if that's what the true meaning of James 1:27 is- "Religion that is pure and undefiled before God, the Father, is this: to visit orphans and widows in their affliction, and to keep oneself unstained from the world." It's a very interesting and new idea to me.
Discuss.
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:25 pm
I don't think so. I believe that if you worship another god, you are in no way worshiping God. Those are known as false idols, and they are of the devil. Jesus said "I am the way the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me" I can't remember the refferance at the moment, but I can get it if u want. But the only way to Salvation is through Jesus Christ. Belief in God's Son, and what He did for you. Now I know that C.S. Lewis is a great Christian writer, but I'm not sure about that. I wish I could ask him about that. lol
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 9:48 pm
I think the passage was aiming more for the idea that all good deeds come, ultimately, from G-d.
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Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 9:38 am
I agree with both of you, but the situation was still that this man worshipped another god and was still allowed to enter Aslan's country.
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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:41 pm
I think it refers to the fact that God can use any evil that the Devil can create as something good.
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 1:17 am
It seems like the character there is seeking Aslans forgiveness or something of the like, saying that he can't be Aslans child because he served a different god, not that he doesnt want to be Aslans child, just that he beleives he cannot, and i think Aslan just affirmed that the character could be Aslans child when he said that all good deeds done in the other gods name were really good deeds done for the true God that he was seeking... I beleive that everybody is seeking God in their hearts even if they deny it.
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 12:49 pm
I absolutely agree. So do you think that out here in real life, a person serving another God could be saved still? Cuz that seems to be the implication C.S. Lewis is trying to make. confused
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 3:20 pm
Fushigi na Butterfly I absolutely agree. So do you think that out here in real life, a person serving another God could be saved still? Cuz that seems to be the implication C.S. Lewis is trying to make. confused Well if there is only one god, then ANY god you choose to worship is the right one. You can't go wrong.
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:17 pm
Fushigi na Butterfly I absolutely agree. So do you think that out here in real life, a person serving another God could be saved still? Cuz that seems to be the implication C.S. Lewis is trying to make. confused
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Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 4:48 pm
So could they still be saved? Everyone keeps avoiding the question. xd That's like saying, well, yeah, agnostics know there's something out there, they just don't know what, so they worship in their own way by following their own set of moral codes, believing them to be the right and wrong acceptable by "whatever's out there." But we still say that they can't be saved because they aren't following Jesus specifically, even though in a way they are- they just don't realize it. So are they saved or not?
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Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 2:01 am
Fushigi na Butterfly So could they still be saved? Everyone keeps avoiding the question. xd That's like saying, well, yeah, agnostics know there's something out there, they just don't know what, so they worship in their own way by following their own set of moral codes, believing them to be the right and wrong acceptable by "whatever's out there." But we still say that they can't be saved because they aren't following Jesus specifically, even though in a way they are- they just don't realize it. So are they saved or not?
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 3:09 pm
That's what I've been trying to get at. So you think it's possible that others can be saved without knowledge of Jesus, but only if they really have no clue- not just pretending to (becuase of course, God knows your heart). So those in other cultures who have never heard of Jesus could still be saved, right?
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 11:41 pm
Fushigi na Butterfly That's what I've been trying to get at. So you think it's possible that others can be saved without knowledge of Jesus, but only if they really have no clue- not just pretending to (becuase of course, God knows your heart). So those in other cultures who have never heard of Jesus could still be saved, right?
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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 3:34 pm
No one can be saved without the knowledge of Jesus to my best knowldege.
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