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 Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 7:08 am
I'm bored (and rather angry about real life drama) so I thought that a nice, controversial topic might help. I have a "pet" ED thread on the same topic, but I don't want to replicate it here (what would be the fun in that?), so I'm not going to bring life experience and such into the first post. Instead, I'm going to state this: I believe that marijuana is a harmless substance (that it is physically impossible to over dose on), which should be legal in the US. Marijuana is harmless because it does not cause death, brain damage, or harder drug use (Thank you WebMD). Most marijuana users are upstanding tax-paying citizens, with jobs and families. Marijuana does not cause violence, and responsible marijuana users do not endanger others. So long as employers can still fire employees who show up high to work (or get high at work), and using anything mind-altering before or while driving is still illegal (as it puts everyone else in the area in potential danger), I see no reason why marijuana should remain illegal. What do you all think?
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 10:39 am
I think that it should be legal, however like any drug I don't consider it a smart thing to do. I also won't date anyone who does it (my boyfriend used to but quit so that I would date him XD) because I don't want to be around it.
I don't have any of my sources (text books and whatnot) as I'm at my boyfriends house right now, however I do know that prolonged use of weed can cause some form of psychosis.
That doesn't change my view of it being legalized however I don't think it's right to tell people that there are no real health risks, when there are.
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 10:40 am
WatersMoon110 I'm bored (and rather angry about real life drama) so I thought that a nice, controversial topic might help. I have a "pet" ED thread on the same topic, but I don't want to replicate it here (what would be the fun in that?), so I'm not going to bring life experience and such into the first post. Instead, I'm going to state this: I believe that marijuana is a harmless substance (that it is physically impossible to over dose on), which should be legal in the US. Marijuana is harmless because it does not cause death, brain damage, or harder drug use (Thank you WebMD). Most marijuana users are upstanding tax-paying citizens, with jobs and families. Marijuana does not cause violence, and responsible marijuana users do not endanger others. So long as employers can still fire employees who show up high to work (or get high at work), and using anything mind-altering before or while driving is still illegal (as it puts everyone else in the area in potential danger), I see no reason why marijuana should remain illegal. What do you all think? It is because our Gov't won't be able to tax it propperly to get the benifit out of the drug really. I would enjoy to have marijuana become legal, although there probally be a spike in those areas you mentioned for a short while to compensate for the radically changed law, but it would level out. I smoke both Cigarettes and Marijuana, and I can tell you, Marijuana is much more relaxing and does the job that Cigarettes are intended to do much better without the crappy side effects. Now I know both cause some damage, but that is from smoke, and smoke in general is bad for you, so we can knock that out. I know, Kaiser O.o smoker and 'pot-head' ya I know I know. I'm horrible razz .
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 11:03 am
Beware the Jabberwock I think that it should be legal, however like any drug I don't consider it a smart thing to do. I also won't date anyone who does it (my boyfriend used to but quit so that I would date him XD) because I don't want to be around it. I wouldn't date anyone who wasn't ok with my pot use. Though my fiance doesn't use himself, he doesn't care if I do. Beware the Jabberwock I don't have any of my sources (text books and whatnot) as I'm at my boyfriends house right now, however I do know that prolonged use of weed can cause some form of psychosis. I have never been able to track down half the studies that text books site for marijuana causing anything. However, there is a link between people who are latently schizophrenic who get worse (or any) symptoms after habitual marijuana use. Beware the Jabberwock That doesn't change my view of it being legalized however I don't think it's right to tell people that there are no real health risks, when there are. The health risks of marijuana: --slight lung and throat damage, if you smoke it - no smoking related illness have ever been conclusively linked to marijuana - vaporizing or eating marijuana does not cause any physical harm --there is a risk that marijuana use could negatively effect those with latent or otherwise pre-existing mental illnesses, particularly schizophrenia --it is possible for some people to be allergic to marijuana, however since allergies are just someone's overactive immune system attacking harmless things, I don't see that this is really the fault of the substance Other than that, yeah, I would say that pot is pretty harmless. It is physically impossible to overdose on (unlike alcohol, caffeine, and even water), no one has ever died from marijuana use.
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 11:06 am
Well I've never done any drugs or even smoked a cigarette a day in my life and as disgusting as I think it is to inhale strange chemicals into your lungs I do think it should be legal, regulated, and taxed by the government so that it will eradicate the bad underground stuff that happens because of it. >.> Also it would probably be better for the consumer too because I've heard of how drug dealers will take some of the weed for themselves and replace what they took with stuff like oregano (my uncle used to do that actually ^^; ). So if it's regulated by the government you can guarantee there won't be any garbage in it.
I don't know a whole lot about it, but like Barry Hess said, "You can do drugs in your own home all you want because it's really none of my business, but once you bring it onto the public thoroughfare and endanger civilian's lives I'll make it my business."
For those of you who don't know who he is, he was the libertarian candidate for AZ governor...
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 11:12 am
Master Kaiser It is because our Gov't won't be able to tax it propperly to get the benifit out of the drug really. I would enjoy to have marijuana become legal, although there probally be a spike in those areas you mentioned for a short while to compensate for the radically changed law, but it would level out. I don't see how marijuana couldn't or wouldn't be taxed if it were legal. First off, States could license vendors to distribute it, and then set a big "sin tax" on it, like they do with alcohol. The main argument to this is that people would grow their own, but it isn't as though these people wouldn't pay sales tax on the seeds and gardening supplies they would buy (plus pay for a license to grow it on a large scale, for farmers). And marijuana users already pay lots of sales tax, on pipes, bongs, rolling papers, blunts and blunt rappers, and other paraphernalia. Fact is, most user buy pot now from dealers, and they pay out the a** because of the danger in growing, shipping, and selling marijuana on the black market. If the government made marijuana legal, it would cost less for the users (even if nice packs of 20 joints), but the government could still place a nice tax on it (it could even actually go to education!). Master Kaiser I smoke both Cigarettes and Marijuana, and I can tell you, Marijuana is much more relaxing and does the job that Cigarettes are intended to do much better without the crappy side effects. Now I know both cause some damage, but that is from smoke, and smoke in general is bad for you, so we can knock that out. I know, Kaiser O.o smoker and 'pot-head' ya I know I know. I'm horrible razz . I would never have guessed that you smoke or use marijuana.
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 11:15 am
SterileNeedles Barry Hess said, "You can do drugs in your own home all you want because it's really none of my business, but once you bring it onto the public thoroughfare and endanger civilian's lives I'll make it my business." I really like that statement, and the attitude it represents. I strongly believe that many drugs should be legal, for use in private homes and carefully regulated areas (just like alcohol is).
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 11:23 am
WatersMoon110 Master Kaiser It is because our Gov't won't be able to tax it propperly to get the benifit out of the drug really. I would enjoy to have marijuana become legal, although there probally be a spike in those areas you mentioned for a short while to compensate for the radically changed law, but it would level out. I don't see how marijuana couldn't or wouldn't be taxed if it were legal. First off, States could license vendors to distribute it, and then set a big "sin tax" on it, like they do with alcohol. The main argument to this is that people would grow their own, but it isn't as though these people wouldn't pay sales tax on the seeds and gardening supplies they would buy (plus pay for a license to grow it on a large scale, for farmers). And marijuana users already pay lots of sales tax, on pipes, bongs, rolling papers, blunts and blunt rappers, and other paraphernalia. Fact is, most user buy pot now from dealers, and they pay out the a** because of the danger in growing, shipping, and selling marijuana on the black market. If the government made marijuana legal, it would cost less for the users (even if nice packs of 20 joints), but the government could still place a nice tax on it (it could even actually go to education!). Aye, I know what you are saying, and it's all truth. Sorry I'm not going to explore more into this, I am currently in heavy debate with some peope, on the WoW forums about warrior viability etc. Master Kaiser I smoke both Cigarettes and Marijuana, and I can tell you, Marijuana is much more relaxing and does the job that Cigarettes are intended to do much better without the crappy side effects. Now I know both cause some damage, but that is from smoke, and smoke in general is bad for you, so we can knock that out. Quote: I know, Kaiser O.o smoker and 'pot-head' ya I know I know. I'm horrible razz . I would never have guessed that you smoke or use marijuana. Ya, most of my classmates had the same response XD
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 2:59 pm
WatersMoon110 SterileNeedles Barry Hess said, "You can do drugs in your own home all you want because it's really none of my business, but once you bring it onto the public thoroughfare and endanger civilian's lives I'll make it my business." I really like that statement, and the attitude it represents. I strongly believe that many drugs should be legal, for use in private homes and carefully regulated areas (just like alcohol is). That's why I like the Libertarian party. They believe that people should be allowed to do what they want with their own bodies, their homes, and private businesses. Also one thing Hess pointed out during his campaign was that a majority of the criminals in the prison system were in there because of victimless crimes (it's a big number, like 70-80% I think) Cool website that talks about victimless crimes.It's really ridiculous if you ask me...I always thought that driving drunk, or driving under the influence of marijuana are pretty much the same, while niether is legal to do obviously, one can still drink alcohol in their own homes or at their local Irish pub and it's legal, however you possess marijuana and are caught smoking it at home you're in big trouble. I just don't think I'll ever understand it.
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 11:10 am
ZOMG, another Lords of Acid fan? whee
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:12 pm
La Veuve Zin ZOMG, another Lords of Acid fan? whee I have the song like permanently stuck in my head. Probably forever. Which is kinda ok, as I like the song. But I probably look pretty funny when I sing it to myself.
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 6:33 pm
La Veuve Zin ZOMG, another Lords of Acid fan? whee Show me your p***y, before i show oyu the meaning of the Kinky ABCs ninja I know I know. Most popular songs they have...gah. I'm tired of hearign requests for them on SL Radio, still an awesome group though.
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 3:58 am
Marijuana has a proven affect on mental health and general intelligence, it can be a massive problem for some people.
Naturally I don't mind if it's legal, just as long as people are educated about it, much like cigarettes.
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 7:21 am
King Seth Marijuana has a proven affect on mental health and general intelligence, it can be a massive problem for some people. I'm calling "source". If it has a proven affect, you'll have no problem backing this up. *wink*
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 7:42 am
WatersMoon110 King Seth Marijuana has a proven affect on mental health and general intelligence, it can be a massive problem for some people. I'm calling "source". If it has a proven affect, you'll have no problem backing this up. *wink* As always, it does not affect everyone, but can precipitate people with latent issues.
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