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 Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:44 am
So, I am asked this quite often and I'm sure quite a few of you are asked this by prolifers or anti choicers as to why women will go to such lengths to keep the legality of abortion, or to have an abortion even though it may be an unsafe illegal abortion that be fatal.
And I got the last PM that made me fed up with this.
I can tell you personally why I am am desperate.
So tell them girls and guys.
Why (you) we are so desperate.
Why I am.
-My mother was a teenage daughter that didn't have the greatest support raising me so I didn't have the best of a childhood.
I know my mother didn't want me, and that affected how she cared and treated for me.
I never want to bring a child into this world that way, and end it up having a life it regrets.
-I'm only 16. if I got pregnant now, my dreams of receiving a doctorate in zoology would be dashed.
I'd probably never make it through a community college and that means I could never provide all of the needs and wants of a child because I wouldn't be making the money to be able to.
Not only that, but my future plans and dreams would be gone. dead.
-I panic with children. I can't stand their screaming, crying, whineing etc.
I'm afraid I'd abuse a young child if I panicked.
What ever instinct that all pro lifers think women have for loving children and just wanting more and more - well I sure in the hell didn't get it.
-The stigmatism. that alone could kill the spirit of anyone.
I have a newborn baby sister, only a few weeks old, and last weekend we went to the store and she began to cry, so I took her out of the buggy and walked around with her trying to calm her down.
In about a 20 minuet period I recieved so many degreading looks that I wanted to scream.
-My parents would be so disapointed in me and as well as everybody else.
I try to do my best, but I could not take everybody looking down on me like I'm some stupid slut who couldn't keep her legs closed.
I already have a depression and anexity issue, I don't need to be pushed very hard to go over the edge.
-I don't handle pain very well at all. having to go threw anypain during pregnancy might make me make decisions that could direly affect my health and the fetuse's.
I have to lock the pain pills away when I'm cramping so I'm not entised(sp?) to take more.
* but having an ilegal abortion and expriencing an intense pain is better imo then a lifetime of it.
-Taking away a womens ability to make health decisions regarding her own body not only infrurates me but enables more laws to be enacted against women.
I could probably come up with quite a few more but I need to stop fumming before I do.
So, why are you so desperate?
why are we?
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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 12:44 pm
I'm childfree. If anyone pushes me to do something I don't want to do and see no reason to do it, I get very angry. Someone will end up in tears, and it won't be me. People need to realise that some women do not want to be mothers ever, and to force them to do so will end in more deaths.
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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 1:29 pm
I don't mean to offend any mothers, mothers to be, or people who want to be parents in here, but I personally believe that it would be irresponsible to reproduce in this day and age. I'd rather adopt.
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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 2:44 pm
If I had people giving me degrading looks while I was pushing around a young relative (assuming I saw them doing it clearly), I would be so tempted to scream 'It's my [insert relative status here], you judgemental moron!'
I hope I would scream that, if such an occasion materialised (it's unlikely I'll be in such a situation, with my youngest relative out of their pram and no one in my family getting 'broody'). But it's the principle of the thing, dammit.
Anyhoo.
I have roughly the same reasons for being desperate. If I found out I was pregnant tomorrow, I would probably panick. See my problem is that I've taken too much of the Pro-Life argument to heart and now the idea of abortion sickens me. I would feel that I was killing a baby, despite all the logic or whatever.
However, I know that my life is by no means baby-friendly. Heck, I don't even have enough meat on me to carry a baby (I'm underweight), so there's a medical reason thrown in for good measure. I would most likely end up terminating the pregnancy, but I don't think I would be as cool about it as some people here seem to be. I would just have to accept it was for the best.
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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 3:30 pm
+ I want to be able to control if/when I have children.
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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:14 pm
I remember getting "the look" while I was babysitting once. I was about 12, so of course I had an attitude(and a pretty snarky sense of humor). I glared at everyone giving me the look and said "Babysitting. I'm barren anyways, as if it were any of your goddamn business." I'm not, but it was so worth the "oh s**t I think I hurt this poor girl's feelings" look..
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Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 9:55 pm
Because I want the assurance that I am a citizen and human being, not someone's milk cow.
It's a sense of control too!
Problem with me explaining is because I've never been in that situation and hopefully never will be. I don't know desperate in abortion. They'll have to ask someone who's been through it!
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Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 2:54 am
I fight to keep abortion legal because it's just wrong to take away a woman's control over her biological destiny. I dislike the idea of abortion and will hopefully never need one; still, why should that stop me from fighting so other women keep that right?
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Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 10:28 am
because the thought of anything (human or non, tapeworms scare the s**t out of me) growing inside of and living off of me scares me shitless and makes me sick. i don't like most little kids, either. they're whiny and dirty and slobbery and ...ugh. i also get cramps really bad and one time i asked my mom what childbirth was like and she said "times cramps by 10 and you've got 1/10th of it", eeeeep. i want to go to school for web design and live on my own while i'm doing it because my family is having a lot of financial problems right now. having a behbeh would completely ruin that for me and my family. my cat was expensive enough (all his shots, Frontline and fixing him, he was a stray) i can't imagine what a kid would be like. as selfish as it might sound, i don't want to have a kid because of what it would do to my body. i can eat anything i want right now and i don't gain a pound, and my mom said she was the same way until after she had me. sorry mommy... xP and, of course, it's my body and i don't want some male legislators dictating what i can and can't do with it.
on top of that, my mom and i are both pro-choice and she knows i'm childfree and would abort anything i became pregnant with. be it alien or human. =O she told me that she'd slap me if i got pregnant and had a kid with someone i didn't love. she only says that because she knows my stance on abortion, though. i don't want to be slapped by my mommy. crying
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Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 11:18 am
Why are slaves desparate for freedom?
Why are the sick desparate for affordable medical care?
Why are the oppressed desparate for equal rights?
Why are minorities desparate for equal treatment?
It is a wrong that needs to be righted and I feel it in my very core. I have a right to say "no" to anyone who wants to use my body for anything. I have a right to defend my body with lethal force from those who seek to use my body and cause grievous harm. My body is mine - and not like a posession is mine, but because my body is my very being. It is me. I am mine in a way incomparable to any other posession. These things are indubitable.
When pro-lifers try to take my body away from me and give it to a fetus that is dubiously a person (at best), I am desparately opposed to it in my very core because it is an infraction of some fundamental rights. I am opposed to it as I would be opposed to being a slave, as I would be opposed to being denied equal rights, as I would be opposed to being legally classified as undeserving of basic human rights and treatment.
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Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:57 pm
Basicaly, what everyone else has said =/
I would like to control my own body's destiny, aswell as the fate of my very life. I don't want women to be forced to breed when they don't want to, just because they enjoyed an intimate moment with someone they loved or were possibly forced into having sex. And, as Scare Tactic Propaganda mentioned, it's irresponsible to make more children these days.
Gah, there's so much more, but most have said it anyhow. I defend abortion with everything that I am, it should NEVER be banned!
Here's to choice.
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 1:26 am
I think religion should stay out of politics.
I believe that everyone should do what they think is right. I think it is right to keep abortion SAFE because people who are desperate enough will go to ANY lengths, whether because they'd have to inform their parents or because they know they'd never care and don't wish that on anyone.
No one has a right to say what happens to someone else's body.
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 7:24 pm
Talon-chan Why are slaves desparate for freedom? Why are the sick desparate for affordable medical care? Why are the oppressed desparate for equal rights? Why are minorities desparate for equal treatment? It is a wrong that needs to be righted and I feel it in my very core. I have a right to say "no" to anyone who wants to use my body for anything. I have a right to defend my body with lethal force from those who seek to use my body and cause grievous harm. My body is mine - and not like a posession is mine, but because my body is my very being. It is me. I am mine in a way incomparable to any other posession. These things are indubitable. When pro-lifers try to take my body away from me and give it to a fetus that is dubiously a person (at best), I am desparately opposed to it in my very core because it is an infraction of some fundamental rights. I am opposed to it as I would be opposed to being a slave, as I would be opposed to being denied equal rights, as I would be opposed to being legally classified as undeserving of basic human rights and treatment. Hit the nail on the head there, Talon. That was beautiful.
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