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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:34 am
How many of y'all like Shakespeare? I say he's a little hard to understand, but that's because he uses Middle English and I haven't been educated in that like I should have since I never went to public or private school for high school.
What's your favourite work by him? I've tried reading a few things, but never really got into due to my lack fo intrest at the time. Anyone like A Midsummer Night's Dream? That's one I've heard about and plan to read.
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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 3:48 am
I've read a couple of things by he, Much Ado About Nothing and Romeo and Juliet. I think, as you said, it is a little hard to understand because of the different English. I'm not really sure if I do like it or not!
I never went to public or private school either and we still had to read it confused .
I don't really have a particular favourite though.
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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 7:35 am
I did go to public school, but I left before I got to high school. My mom's making us read it now. (I hate thet my younger brother is doing things on the same level as me! domokun )
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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 7:09 pm
Julius Caesar is my favorite. Quote: I know I am a woman but withall, A woman well reputed, Cato's daughter. I know I am a woman but withall, A woman that lord Brutus took to wife. Something something Am I no greater than my sex, Being so fathered and so husbanded? something something would give myself a voluntary wound Here, in my thigh. That I could bear that pain but not my husband's secrets. Something something...
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:29 am
We are currently reading Macbeth in my English class. We got the original text and some sheets about Shakespeare. This is the story I most like of the ones our teacher gave us: Quote: The Macbeth Murder Mysteryby James Thurber (American humorist).Originally published in My World and Welcome to It This is of course a send-up of classic early 20th century detective fiction and its readership, but also of a habit of mind of reading Shakespeare that looks a bit too closely at the details. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "It was a stupid mistake to make," said the American woman I had met at my hotel in the English lake country, "but it was on the counter with the other Penguin books--the little sixpenny ones, you know, with the paper covers--and I supposed of course it was a detective story. All the others were detective stories. I'd read all the others, so I bought this one without really looking at it carefully. You can imagine how mad I was when I found it was Shakespeare." I murmured something sympathetically. "I don't see why the Penguin-books people had to get out Shakespeare plays in the same size and everything as the detective stories," went on my companion. "I think they have different-colored jackets," I said. "Well, I didn't notice that," she said. "Anyway, I got real comfy in bed that night and all ready to read a good mystery story and here I had 'The Tragedy of Macbeth'--a book for high-school students. Like 'Ivanhoe,' " "Or 'Lorna Doone,' " I said. "Exactly," said the American lady. "And I was just crazy for a good Agatha Christie, or something. Hercule Poirot is my favorite detective." "Is he the rabbity one?" I asked. "Oh, no," said my crime-fiction expert. "He's the Belgian one. You're thinking of Mr.. Pinkerton, the one that helps Inspector Bull. He's good, too." Over her second cup of tea my companion began to tell the plot of a detective story that had fooled her completely--it seems it was the old family doctor all the time. But I cut in on her. "Tell me," I said. "Did you read 'Macbeth'?" "I had to read it, she said. "There wasn't a scrap of anything else to read in the whole room." "Did you like it?" I asked. "No, I did not," she said, decisively. "In the first place, I don't think for a moment that Macbeth did it." I looked at her blankly. "Did what?" I asked. "I don't think for a moment that he killed the King," she said. "I don't think the Macbeth woman was mixed up in it, either. You suspect them the most, of course, but those are the ones that are never guilty--or shouldn't be, anyway." "I'm 'afraid," I began, "that I--" "But don't you see?" said the American lady. "It would spoil everything if you could figure out right away who did it. Shakespeare was too smart for that. I've read that people never have figured out 'Hamlet,' so it isn't likely Shakespeare would have made 'Macbeth' as simple as it seems." I thought this over while I filled my pipe. "Who do you suspect?" I asked, suddenly. "Macduff," she said, promptly. "Good God!" I whispered, softly. "Oh Macduff did it, all right," said the murder specialist. Hercule Poirot would have got him easily." "How did you figure it out?" I demanded. "Well," she said, "I didn't right away. At first I suspected Banquo. And then, of course, he was the second person killed. That was good right in there, that part. The person you suspect of the first murder should always be the second victim." "Is that so?" I murmured. "Oh, yes," said my informant. "They have to keep surprising you. Well, after the second murder I didn't know who the killer was for a while." "How about Malcolm and Donalbain, the King's sons?" I asked. "As I remember it, they fled right after the first murder. That looks suspicious." "Too suspicious," said the American lady. "Much too suspicious. When they flee, they're never guilty. You can count on that." "I believe," I said, "I'll have a brandy," and I summoned the waiter. My companion leaned toward me, her eyes bright, her teacup quivering. "Do you know who discovered Duncan's body?" she demanded. I said I was sorry, but I had forgotten. "Macduff discovers it," she said, slipping into the historical present. "Then he comes running downstairs and shouts, 'Confusion has broke open the Lord's anointed temple' and 'Sacrilegious murder has made his masterpiece' and on and on like that." The good lady tapped me on the knee. "All that stuff was rehearsed," she said. "You wouldn't say a lot of stuff like that, offhand, would you--if you had found a body?" She fixed me with a glittering eye. "I--" I began. "You're right!" she said. "You wouldn't! Unless you had practiced it in advance. 'My God, there's a body in here!' is what an innocent man would say." She sat back with a confident glare. I thought for a while. "But what do you make of the Third Murderer?" I asked. "You know, the Third Murderer has puzzled 'Macbeth' scholars for three hundred years." "That's because they never thought of Macduff," said the American lady. "It was Macduff, I'm certain. You couldn't have one of the victims murdered by two ordinary thugs-the murderer always has to be somebody important." "But what about the banquet scene?" I asked, after a moment. "How do you account for Macbeth's guilty actions there,, when Banquo's ghost came in and sat in his chair?" The lady leaned forward and tapped me on the knee again. "There wasn't t any ghost," she said. "A big, strong man like that doesn't go around seeing ghosts -- especially in a brightly lighted banquet hall with dozens of people around. Macbeth wasshielding somebody!" "Who was he shielding?" I asked. "Mrs. Macbeth, of course," she said. "He thought she did it and he was going to take the rap himself. The husband always does that when the wife is suspected." "But what," I demanded, "about the sleepwalking scene, then?" "The same thing, only the other way around," said my companion. "That time she was shielding him. She wasn't asleep at all. Do you remember where it says, 'Enter Lady Macbeth with a taper'? "Yes," I said. "Well, people who walk in their sleep never carry lights!" said my fellow-traveler. "They have a second sight. Did you ever hear of a sleepwalker carrying a light?" "No," I said, "I never did." "Well, then, she wasn't asleep. She was acting guilty to shield Macbeth." "I think," l said, "I'll have another brandy," and I called the waiter. When he brought it, I drank it rapidly and rose to go. "I believe," I said, "that you have got hold of something. Would you lend me that 'Macbeth'? I'd like to look it over tonight. I don't feel, somehow, as if I'd ever really read it." "I'll get it for you," she said. "But you'll find that I am right." I read the play over carefully that night, and the next morning, after breakfast, I sought out the American woman. She was on the putting green, and I came up behind her silently and took her arm. She gave an exclamation. "Could I see you alone?" I asked, in a low voice. She nodded cautiously and followed me to a secluded spot. "You've found out something?" she breathed. "I've found out," I said, triumphantly, "the name of the murderer!" "You mean it wasn't Macduff?" she said. "Macduff is as innocent of those murders," I said, "as Macbeth and the Macbeth woman." I opened the copy of the play, which I had with me, and turned to Act II, Scene 2. Here," I said, "you will see where Lady Macbeth says, 'I laid their daggers ready. He could not miss 'em. Had he not resembled my father as he slept, I had done it.' Do you see?" "No," said the American woman, bluntly, "I don't." "But it's simple!" I exclaimed. "I wonder I didn't see it years ago. The reason Duncan resembled Lady Macbeth's father as he slept is that it actually 'was her father!" "Good God!" breathed my companion, softly. "Lady Macbeth's father killed the King," I said, "and, hearing someone coming, thrust the body under the bed and crawled into the bed himself." "But," said the lady, "you can't have a murderer who only appears in the story once. You can't have that." "I know that," I said, and I turned to Act II, Scene 4. "It says here, 'Enter Ross with an old Man.' Now, that old man is never identified and it is my contention he was old Mr. Macbeth, whose ambition it was to make his daughter Queen. There you have your motive." "But even then," cried the American lady, "he's still a minor character!" "Not," I said, gleefully, "when you realize that he was also one of the weird Sisters in disguise!" "You mean one of the three witches?" "Precisely," I said. "Listen to this speech of the old man's. 'On Tuesday last, a falcon towering in her pride of place, was by a mousing owl hawk'd at and kill'd.' Who does that sound like?" "It sounds like the way the three witches talk," said my companion, reluctantly. "Precisely!" I said again. "Well," said the American woman, "maybe you're right, but-" "I'm sure I am," I said. "And do you know what I'm going to do now?" "No," she said. "What?" "Buy a copy of 'Hamlet,'" I said, "and solve that!" My companion's eye brightened. "Then," she said, "you don't think Hamlet did it?" "I am," I said, "absolutely positive he didn't." "But who," she demanded, "do you suspect?" I looked at her cryptically. "Everybody," I said, and disappeared into a small grove of trees as silently as I had come.
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Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 12:58 pm
A Midsummer Night's Dream is okay but I liked Romeo and Juliet better. I've been meaning to read Hamlet but the size always scares me away >.>
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 4:34 pm
Personally, if I had to choose a favorite, it would be Hamlet. Don't let its size intimidate you, Encloche. wink
Anyway, some of you have noted the difficulty of understanding Shakespeare due to all the thee's and thou's--- Shakespeare's plays are meant to be experienced on the stage, not just read and analyzed in high school English classes. If you want to understand his works, see them performed. That said, there's still a great deal one can learn by examining the text. While Shakespeare's language isn't what we use in everyday speech, it isn't entirely unapproachable. The themes of his works and the stories he tells are all relevant today, though perhaps only if taken in a different context, and that is what makes them great.
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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 12:46 pm
I'm currently reading Much Ado About Nothing in billingual version (Czech/English). I like it, but The Taming of the Shrew and A Midsummer Night's Dream are my favorite ones. I don't really like Romeo and Juliet, because of the sad end...
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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 11:14 am
I've read Macbeth and Othello and loved them both and i saw Midsummer night's dream and romeo and juliet in theater and also like them...shakespear was a genius lol
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:34 pm
They have Shakesphere in Klingon, I saw it at a convention once ... kinda eerie.
"You haven't heard Shakesphere until you've heard it in the original Klingon" ... I thought they were kidding.
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Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:14 am
Hermonie Urameshi How many of y'all like Shakespeare? I say he's a little hard to understand, but that's because he uses Middle English and I haven't been educated in that like I should have since I never went to public or private school for high school.
What's your favourite work by him? I've tried reading a few things, but never really got into due to my lack fo intrest at the time. Anyone like A Midsummer Night's Dream? That's one I've heard about and plan to read. Sorry to correct you but his works are in Elizabethan which is a form of english used later than Middle english. If you are interested in reading works in Middle or Chaucerian English I would suggest Chaucer's Canterbury Tales but that's a bit harder than Shakespeare.
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Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 6:07 pm
Sigurd Volsung Hermonie Urameshi How many of y'all like Shakespeare? I say he's a little hard to understand, but that's because he uses Middle English and I haven't been educated in that like I should have since I never went to public or private school for high school.
What's your favourite work by him? I've tried reading a few things, but never really got into due to my lack fo intrest at the time. Anyone like A Midsummer Night's Dream? That's one I've heard about and plan to read. Sorry to correct you but his works are in Elizabethan which is a form of english used later than Middle english. If you are interested in reading works in Middle or Chaucerian English I would suggest Chaucer's Canterbury Tales but that's a bit harder than Shakespeare. Haha, I was wondering when someone would say that. I have a version of the Canterbury Tales with Middle English on one page and modern English on the other. It's quite fun. The thing with Shakespeare for me is that it's in play format, which I have difficulty with. It helps to read it aloud, though.
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Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 6:14 pm
Hydrogen Nebula They have Shakesphere in Klingon, I saw it at a convention once ... kinda eerie. "You haven't heard Shakesphere until you've heard it in the original Klingon" ... I thought they were kidding. Don't you know? Shakespeare was Klingon and the original version of Hamlet was in fact written in Klingon! razz On topic: Shakespeare is pretty cool. His plays are a lot more exciting if you see them performed though. ^^
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:36 am
I love Shakespeare. His sonnets are my favorite. Absolutely beautiful.
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