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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 5:33 am


I'm No uni student of Proffesor of Qunatum Physics, but i know enough about most things to atleast pretend like i know more about that specific subject.

Anyway, I post here about Scientific break throughs in the world that appeal to me. Here is one such breakthrough.


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RANDOLPH E. SCHMID
Associated Press


WASHINGTON - Scientists are boldly going where only fiction has gone before - to develop a Cloak of Invisibility. It isn't quite ready to hide a Romulan space ship from Capt. James T. Kirk or to disguise Harry Potter, but it is a significant start and could show the way to more sophisticated designs.

In this first successful experiment, researchers from the United States and England were able to cloak a copper cylinder.

It's like a mirage, where heat causes the bending of light rays and cloaks the road ahead behind an image of the sky.

"We have built an artificial mirage that can hide something from would-be observers in any direction," said cloak designer David Schurig, a research associate in Duke University's electrical and computer engineering department.

For their first attempt, the researchers designed a cloak that prevents microwaves from detecting objects. Like light and radar waves, microwaves usually bounce off objects, making them visible to instruments and creating a shadow that can be detected.

Cloaking used special materials to deflect radar or light or other waves around an object, like water flowing around a smooth rock in a stream. It differs from stealth technology, which does not make an aircraft invisible but reduces the cross-section available to radar, making it hard to track.

The new work points the way for an improved version that could hide people and objects from visible light.

Conceptually, the chance of adapting the concept to visible light is good, Schurig said in a telephone interview. But, he added, "From an engineering point of view it is very challenging."

The cloaking of a cylinder from microwaves comes just five months after Schurig and colleagues published their theory that it should be possible. Their work is reported in a paper in Friday's issue of the journal Science.

"We did this work very quickly ... and that led to a cloak that is not optimal," said co-author David R. Smith, also of Duke. "We know how to make a much better one."

The first working cloak was in only two dimensions and did cast a small shadow, Smith said. The next step is to go for three dimensions and to eliminate any shadow.

Viewers can see things because objects scatter the light that strikes them, reflecting some of it back to the eye.

"The cloak reduces both an object's reflection and its shadow, either of which would enable its detection," Smith said.

The cloak is made of metamaterials, which are mixtures of metal and circuit board materials such as ceramic, Teflon or fiber composite.

In an ideal situation, the cloak and the item it is hiding would be invisible. An observer would see whatever is beyond them, with no evidence the cloaked item exists.

"Since we do not have a perfect cloak at this point, there is some reflection and some shadow, meaning that the background would still be visible just darkened somewhat. ... We now just need to improve the performance of cloaking structures."

In a very speculative application, he added, "one could imagine 'cloaking' acoustic waves, so as to shield a region from vibration or seismic activity."

Natalia M. Litchinitser, a researcher at the University of Michigan department of electrical engineering and computer science who was not part of the research team, said the ideas raised by the work "represent a first step toward the development of functional materials for a wide spectrum of civil and military applications."

Joining Schurig and Smith in the project were researchers at Imperial College in London and SensorMetrix, a materials and technology company in San Diego.

The research was supported by the Intelligence Community Postdoctoral Research Fellowship Program and the United Kingdom Engineering and Physical Sciences Research Council.





That's right. A cloak.

Please feel free to Discuss Technichal, Moral and...other...aspects of this break through here.
PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 5:36 am


there was already a thread for scientific breakthroughs xp It sorta died tho.... sweatdrop

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 6:51 pm


yeah i heard about that a few weeks back, it was on teh news or on a doco... its a nice idea, but once one side uses it, the other side will, which in terms of warfare it's only fair.

But once this technology reaches the public arena, either through the balck market, etc, we enter a whole new bucket of fish...

This leads onto a whole new facet of crime, where the perpetrator can attack/ do their crime, and with any pre-thought, can be easily get around forensics, and and other types of prepertrator identification.

But this technology has it's work arounds, just get a IR camera, and wolah, cloak doesnt work no-more. The day when a person can hide their IR radiation. Also you will still be able to "see" the cloaked person, you will still see foot prints, moving tree branches, etc, it'll just make an increase in friendly fire incidents, as people will now be trained to open fire on anything they think moves. Also you can still hear them.

as far as i can think this technology will be almost imperfectly perfect. Once you get a tank or equilivant cloaked, sure you can hear what it is, and possibly where it is, by hearing it, itll still add the heightened level of fear.

well thats my 2 cents after seeing the news report, and sorry if i repeated anything...
PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 7:17 pm


A few things about this cloak.

One, cloaking humans is illogical. As scruffy said, if both sides have it eventually, then soldiers will be trained to shoot whatever moves because you never know when there's a guy right there, even if he is your ally. They would have to be specially trained to know how to detect them... But if it's an invisibility cloak... then that doesn't sound too logical now does it?

Another thing, if they want to block light waves from hitting the cloaked object, in this case I want it to be a human, then wouldn't it then prevent the sight of the person in the cloak? It would like wandering through eternal darkness. That's provided they were able to completely bend the light, which seems highly unlikely right now.

Putting this on the battlefield would only make sense with bombs of a larger scale and remote weapons. This way, they could hide very dangerous weapons that don't give off IR or Heat radiation that is highly detectable. This could prove to be a great advantage for the side that has the greater strategical thinking.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 7:27 pm


Necretian
Putting this on the battlefield would only make sense with bombs of a larger scale and remote weapons. This way, they could hide very dangerous weapons that don't give off IR or Heat radiation that is highly detectable. This could prove to be a great advantage for the side that has the greater strategical thinking.


nicely thought out, it'll be interesting how this tech will be used in the future...
PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 7:34 pm


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Putting this on the battlefield would only make sense with bombs of a larger scale and remote weapons. This way, they could hide very dangerous weapons that don't give off IR or Heat radiation that is highly detectable. This could prove to be a great advantage for the side that has the greater strategical thinking.


nicely thought out, it'll be interesting how this tech will be used in the future...


Most definitely, just think about the wars in the past where all of the enemies had similar weapons... But it's not just what you have, it's how you use it.

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