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Article talks about how women and children are being opressed in Iran also. People are always saying how Islam treats men and women equally but obviously this isn't the case in some of these Islamic countries.

Anyways. This thread is about those temporary marriages that's also in the article. It talks about how Iran legalized these marriages which can last up to one hour minimium and how it's only for sex.

Do you think what Iran is doing is okay? Discuss.

The article does get biased towards the end and the only reason why I seem to find it a bit insulting is because they're using Islam as an excuse for these laws that aren't really Islamic obviously giving the religion a bad name.

The only good thing with this being legalized is that women won't get the death penalty. However, I still don't agree with with women being pushed into prostitution by their husbands or anyone else.

It honestly gives Islam a bad name and makes me want to turn away from it.

Get married, have sex, and the "marriage" being over must be haraam since it's only done for sex, don't you think?

While I do agree that the end result of women not getting the death penalty is better, I don't think they should have achieved that by taking a step backwards and legalizing the behavior they saw as wrong. What they should have done is find a way to stop the whole adultery problem, not legalize it.

And yeah, I definitely think it's 7araam, because one of the largest purposes of marriage in islam is to protect the spouses from these temporary flings, and build a tighter stronger relationship between these two, instead of with others.
Other than that point, a lot of Islam is about teaching yourself how to control your actions when something isn't appropriate, in order to live a higher quality of life. Basically, self control in order to achieve a higher state of mind. I believe I also remember a hadith by Omar, radiya allah 3anho, where he was talking to someone about eating, and (honestly, I don't really remember the details) in the end, he said something like 'you shouldn't indulge yourself on every whim you feel'; if you want I can try to look up the actual text of that, but I just remembered it as an example of encouragement of self-control. Anyway, I think that 'temporary marriages' kind of go against that concept...

Another thing I don't like about this, is that it is using the term marriage as a fake name to something that isn't marriage, resulting in encouragement for people to blind themselves to truth and lie to themselves in order to excuse the things that they want to do, but are wrong. If I remember correctly, on several occasions in the Quran, there are verses telling of people who did wrong things, and excused it by saying that what they were doing was alright, and giving the action a different name in order to make it sound better, but in the end they were only fooling themselves...

If there is one thing I think is healthiest for people, I would say it's honestly with themselves...

You guys shouldn't look at Iran in a muslim way.


1. Iran has a population of about 90% athiests. (Despite what CIA.gov says)

2. I as a Persian know this.

3. Iranians are the most non religious people in the world.

4. Iran is known for its hard drinking teenagers, fornicators, and black metal fans.

I'm an Iranian. I know this. I'm probably one of the few practicing muslim Iranians.


And no, for the last time, Iranians are not Arab. We are Persian. That is European.

Umm. I'm Iranian.

Iran has SOME Arabs. Maybe like, 2000 of them at most. And those are the Arabs from the UAE, that go to Iran for business reasons. Iran is a dominate Persian and Azeri country. Mainly Persian.

The Iranian Government is an Islamic Republic, but the government does not reflect the people.

90% of Iranians are athiest, that is true. The Jewish Iranians are in Esfehan, or have moved to Israel. (The President of Israel is Iranian).

The muslim Iranians are a minority in Iran. They are situated in Qom mostly.

There is a TINY TINY number of Arabs in Iran. Most are either in the south where the hot climate is, or in the west where Iraq is. Because Iraqis, or Emiratis go to Iran to do business, because of Iran's Free Market.

Bush doesn't want to invade Iran, since he can't. Iran is one of the most powerful countries in the Middle East, as only two countries int he Middle East have F-18 jets. Saudi Arabia (Which they bought from US), and Iran (Which they pirated from the US). Also, because Iran has high-tech satellite missiles that reach the United States of America, thus harming the American citizens.

Bush does not SUSPECT Iran is making nuclear plants.

Iran has had a nuclear plant for 50 years. The current situation is that Iran is enriching Uranium from Russia because Russia is a close neighbour towards Iran, so the president of the United States, has reported Iran to the United Nations. The only thing Bush CAN do is report Iran to the United Nations, because again, Iran is a Global Power when it comes to military.

America also has nothing against the Iran, because

1. USA and Iran are the strongest cultural allies. The Iranians people are far more western than the American people themselves.

2. Iran has what USA can't get. A say in the Middle East and Central Asia.

3. If Iran were to be allies with the USA again, as they were from 1943 - 1979, USA would be able to have more control over Iran's neighbours like Azerbaijan, Armenia, Russia, Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan etc.

4. The whole problem with Iran and USA started when USA and Britain had exiled the Pro-Nazi leader of Iran, Reza Shah.

Who?

Ayatollah Khomeini?

The people of Iran weren't religious at all.

Khomeini promised Iranians that strip bars, drinking bars, and all that would stay. And that religion would be free, and that woman wouldn't be forced to wear hijab, and that he'll bring a democracy, and that he'd take out the Kingdom.

All this happened for 5 whole days.

And then on the 6th day, he;

Banned Music
Banned Alcohal
Banned Pork
Forced Islam on all the woman
Banned Sports
Banned anything to do with the previous government
Brought capital punishment into Iran

After that, the Iranian people protested and rioted against him so

Music, and Sports became legalized again.

The people are still protesting, but Khomeini' government (Khamenei's government now.) doesn't care. They still force Islam on the Iranian people, when the majority of them aren't even muslim.

Which is why Iran is number 1 in the world for underground parties.

Edit: When the Islamic Republic came into power, it wasn't the Iranian people's choice either. They just wanted the Shah out.

Khomeini had a refferendum which asked;

"Do you want to Shah to stay, or go?"

89% said they wanted the Shah out, so Khomeini made himself dictator.

I completely agree with this.

What is this going to do but make people take marriage as a whole less seriously?