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 Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 10:44 am
ok so thanx to everyone who tried to help for my gimmick. the druink one is being used but not by me. vinnie kevin macmanson (lol yeah i know) our boss said tht im the best at being "the sicilian hitman" so the new breed mafia has been born.but now i need a second finisher on top of my "sicilian hit" (a corckscrew moonsault). any suggestions? im looking for a grapple move or maybe submission. and any other moves tht i can use, lucha moves preferably.
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 12:32 pm
How about Italin Stalion as a Dragon Sleeper
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 12:50 pm
use a triangle choke, its a very effective manuver and its very unorthodox and unexpected coming from a lucha style wrestler...as for a name, maybe u can call it the "sicilian strangle" if u go with my sugestion this might help alot: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bt2sZFj9lLM
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 1:21 pm
hmmm i like the way it looks especially since im one of the smallest guys in our leaugue and usally i end up on my back anyways.
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 1:29 pm
ThePhenomenalDemon hmmm i like the way it looks especially since im one of the smallest guys in our leaugue and usally i end up on my back anyways. well thats a very good reason for using it. another would be that with that move the size of the person doing it and the size of the person getting it doesnt matter, its all about leg strenth. and sence u can pull off a corkskcrew moonsault i would assume u have very strong legs
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 2:09 pm
yeah the corkscrew ispretty hard to pull off. the only problem ive really ever had though was the landing. i always eltheir over rotate or under rotate
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 2:11 pm
ThePhenomenalDemon yeah the corkscrew ispretty hard to pull off. the only problem ive really ever had though was the landing. i always eltheir over rotate or under rotate personally i always thought a shooting star senton would look awesome...but i dont think it could possibly be done as beautifully as a corkskrew moonsault. although for all i know urs is sloppy...no offence
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 6:22 pm
Crippler Crossface for a submission
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 7:07 am
vax ThePhenomenalDemon yeah the corkscrew ispretty hard to pull off. the only problem ive really ever had though was the landing. i always eltheir over rotate or under rotate personally i always thought a shooting star senton would look awesome...but i dont think it could possibly be done as beautifully as a corkskrew moonsault. although for all i know urs is sloppy...no offence hey none taken and ill admit sometimes mine can be a lil sloppy depneding on how much pain im in. thats why im looking for another finisher.
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 9:03 am
ThePhenomenalDemon vax ThePhenomenalDemon yeah the corkscrew ispretty hard to pull off. the only problem ive really ever had though was the landing. i always eltheir over rotate or under rotate personally i always thought a shooting star senton would look awesome...but i dont think it could possibly be done as beautifully as a corkskrew moonsault. although for all i know urs is sloppy...no offence hey none taken and ill admit sometimes mine can be a lil sloppy depneding on how much pain im in. thats why im looking for another finisher. well the triangle choke is a good 2nd finisher. so it sould work perfectly for u
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 9:11 am
vax ThePhenomenalDemon vax ThePhenomenalDemon yeah the corkscrew ispretty hard to pull off. the only problem ive really ever had though was the landing. i always eltheir over rotate or under rotate personally i always thought a shooting star senton would look awesome...but i dont think it could possibly be done as beautifully as a corkskrew moonsault. although for all i know urs is sloppy...no offence hey none taken and ill admit sometimes mine can be a lil sloppy depneding on how much pain im in. thats why im looking for another finisher. well the triangle choke is a good 2nd finisher. so it sould work perfectly for u At the same time though, it's hard to sell a submission as a second finisher. Cause once you start using it as a secondary, then your "primary" will get less and less sold. Kurt Angle is the perfect example. His Ankle lock was only used as a secondary at first, now when was the last time you saw someone pinned with the Angle slam? Benoit's headbut was his promary in WCW for awhile as well, then when he debuted the Crossface it got over way more than the headbut and everyone was kicking out of it. Jericho's lionsult became so undersold it became more of a "Will the guy move and jericho land on his feet for will be ge the knees" kind of move, it was countered more than it was successful. Just something to think about.
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 9:52 am
Kronik vax ThePhenomenalDemon vax ThePhenomenalDemon yeah the corkscrew ispretty hard to pull off. the only problem ive really ever had though was the landing. i always eltheir over rotate or under rotate personally i always thought a shooting star senton would look awesome...but i dont think it could possibly be done as beautifully as a corkskrew moonsault. although for all i know urs is sloppy...no offence hey none taken and ill admit sometimes mine can be a lil sloppy depneding on how much pain im in. thats why im looking for another finisher. well the triangle choke is a good 2nd finisher. so it sould work perfectly for u At the same time though, it's hard to sell a submission as a second finisher. Cause once you start using it as a secondary, then your "primary" will get less and less sold. Kurt Angle is the perfect example. His Ankle lock was only used as a secondary at first, now when was the last time you saw someone pinned with the Angle slam? Benoit's headbut was his promary in WCW for awhile as well, then when he debuted the Crossface it got over way more than the headbut and everyone was kicking out of it. Jericho's lionsult became so undersold it became more of a "Will the guy move and jericho land on his feet for will be ge the knees" kind of move, it was countered more than it was successful. Just something to think about. yeah that is something to think about but personally i would rather the triangle choke than the corckscrew because ive been injured so many times doing the corkscrew. three cracked ribs was the last injury i had at the end of the summer last year
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 9:54 am
How about an STO into the turnbuckle. Come up with your own Clever pun/name for it.
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 10:33 am
Kronik had a really good point, but Cena uses the STF as a good secondary finisher. For a while it seemed like it was going to take over for winning matches but he managed to keep the FU as a main finisher.
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 11:13 am
eek Ruin is throwing Cena in my face...never thought I'd see the day. I was under the assumption that the guy we were helping wasn't a hated face....
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