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 Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 4:32 pm
what do u guys think about the govermant takedown orders for tab sites?
Suposedly,its a violation of the authors copyright
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 5:45 pm
Not really tabs aren't payed for, and if they aren't used in songs they aren't illigal. Also there is no true accuracy to tabs so even if it is right you can't say that it is the real way to play that song. but i play by ear and ask every band that is still togther if we can do a cover for them befor doing it.
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 5:58 pm
yea,i see wat ur sayin,but since wen has our goverment made any sense?
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 6:03 pm
sirgwahir yea,i see wat ur sayin,but since wen has our goverment made any sense? since never, there a bunch of idiots who are tone deaft
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 12:36 pm
Come on guys, while I don't believe it's fair, it's within their rights as artists. Tabs are representations of their work so others can use it, it's really no different than downloading a song, taking an essay and changing some words to suit your needs, or copying an artwork and changing some of the colors around to make it your own. You're taking their work, putting your interpretation into it, and it still says basically the same thing. And what about the cases of people taking tabs out of a bands official tab book, and posting it on a site? So while I may not call it fair, it's still plagiarism, and it needs to be restricted. I think the fairest way to solve this is to make one big tab site, you pay a one-time fee, and then you're set.
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 12:33 am
angrymalazar Come on guys, while I don't believe it's fair, it's within their rights as artists. Tabs are representations of their work so others can use it, it's really no different than downloading a song, taking an essay and changing some words to suit your needs, or copying an artwork and changing some of the colors around to make it your own. You're taking their work, putting your interpretation into it, and it still says basically the same thing. And what about the cases of people taking tabs out of a bands official tab book, and posting it on a site? So while I may not call it fair, it's still plagiarism, and it needs to be restricted. I think the fairest way to solve this is to make one big tab site, you pay a one-time fee, and then you're set. Thats totally right. Tabs take from the permission of the artist. It dosnt matter if someone else transcribed their work, its still their work, and people have no right to publish their music online for free.
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 4:30 pm
Escaflowne_11 angrymalazar Come on guys, while I don't believe it's fair, it's within their rights as artists. Tabs are representations of their work so others can use it, it's really no different than downloading a song, taking an essay and changing some words to suit your needs, or copying an artwork and changing some of the colors around to make it your own. You're taking their work, putting your interpretation into it, and it still says basically the same thing. And what about the cases of people taking tabs out of a bands official tab book, and posting it on a site? So while I may not call it fair, it's still plagiarism, and it needs to be restricted. I think the fairest way to solve this is to make one big tab site, you pay a one-time fee, and then you're set. Thats totally right. Tabs take from the permission of the artist. It dosnt matter if someone else transcribed their work, its still their work, and people have no right to publish their music online for free. sadly i agree(even thogh i use them.. stare )it is sad though...
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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 4:39 pm
TraigLighthouse Escaflowne_11 angrymalazar Come on guys, while I don't believe it's fair, it's within their rights as artists. Tabs are representations of their work so others can use it, it's really no different than downloading a song, taking an essay and changing some words to suit your needs, or copying an artwork and changing some of the colors around to make it your own. You're taking their work, putting your interpretation into it, and it still says basically the same thing. And what about the cases of people taking tabs out of a bands official tab book, and posting it on a site? So while I may not call it fair, it's still plagiarism, and it needs to be restricted. I think the fairest way to solve this is to make one big tab site, you pay a one-time fee, and then you're set. Thats totally right. Tabs take from the permission of the artist. It dosnt matter if someone else transcribed their work, its still their work, and people have no right to publish their music online for free. sadly i agree(even thogh i use them.. stare )it is sad though... ur all right,but as long as ur not making any money of of them,its technicly legal,like copying dvd's,thats legal as long as ur not profiting off them
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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 4:50 pm
But, how can they be sure you're not profitting off of them? Or, better yet, if you use a tab to learn a song for your band, then you play that cover song that night, and they decide to pay you/you sell stuff, then, technically, you're making money from playing that cover, even if that wasn't directly the reason you made money.
Even then, there's still places to find tabs around.
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Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 2:48 am
angrymalazar Come on guys, while I don't believe it's fair, it's within their rights as artists. Tabs are representations of their work so others can use it, it's really no different than downloading a song, taking an essay and changing some words to suit your needs, or copying an artwork and changing some of the colors around to make it your own. You're taking their work, putting your interpretation into it, and it still says basically the same thing. And what about the cases of people taking tabs out of a bands official tab book, and posting it on a site? So while I may not call it fair, it's still plagiarism, and it needs to be restricted. I think the fairest way to solve this is to make one big tab site, you pay a one-time fee, and then you're set. I disagree with the way you compare using tabs to stealing someone else's artwork. I mean.. if you take a peice of art, change the colours and say it's your art, that is indeed stealing. But if you just use tab to - for example - learn Killing In The Name and play it with your band, you're not telling everyone it's YOUR song that YOU wrote. If playing along to someone else's song using tab is stealing, then whats to stop people going an extra step and banning people from posting the lyrics online too, incase people decide to sing in their shower?
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Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 6:40 am
IceintheInk angrymalazar Come on guys, while I don't believe it's fair, it's within their rights as artists. Tabs are representations of their work so others can use it, it's really no different than downloading a song, taking an essay and changing some words to suit your needs, or copying an artwork and changing some of the colors around to make it your own. You're taking their work, putting your interpretation into it, and it still says basically the same thing. And what about the cases of people taking tabs out of a bands official tab book, and posting it on a site? So while I may not call it fair, it's still plagiarism, and it needs to be restricted. I think the fairest way to solve this is to make one big tab site, you pay a one-time fee, and then you're set. I disagree with the way you compare using tabs to stealing someone else's artwork. I mean.. if you take a peice of art, change the colours and say it's your art, that is indeed stealing. But if you just use tab to - for example - learn Killing In The Name and play it with your band, you're not telling everyone it's YOUR song that YOU wrote. If playing along to someone else's song using tab is stealing, then whats to stop people going an extra step and banning people from posting the lyrics online too, incase people decide to sing in their shower? It was an example, but even if you do give credit where credit is due for a cover, it's still technically copyright infringement, you may tell people it's a cover, but did you get express permission from the artist to do said cover? I know it's not fair guys, but the artists have every right to do whatever they want with their material, especially music and lyrics.
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Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:34 am
I do see your point... It just feels really wrong. This isn't what music should be about.
Heh, I guess I'm just complaining cause not being able to get tabs online would pretty much kill my development with bass... I'd hate to think any other kids out there would have a harder time learning. sad
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Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:52 am
"they are just peoples interperatation on the song. it is in no way reflective of the song by any artist." i think thats how most of the sites are getting round it ultimate-guitar has done this
alternatively buy a song book as they have the tab in them anyway. (owns like 2)
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Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 3:16 pm
I've tried finding tab books, and I'd be happy to buy them if I had the money - but even if I did have the money it's almost impossible to find bass tab books for any band that I actually care about.
I'm sure I could get them over the internet but I don't trust internet shopping. All my local music shop seems interested in is guitar tab books. neutral
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