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 Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:57 pm
So today after my Physics final (last one, yay), I started thinking of Zeno's Paradox. It's kinda logical in one sense, but illogical like all other paradoxes. What is logic? Without knowing what it is, there is no feasible way to figure out a paradox I think.
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:15 am
Could you describe Zeno's Paradox for us?
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:51 am
Think that you're walking towards a wall. You go half way, then another half way, and so on and so forth. You will always be going 1/2 of the distance you need to go. You technically would then never reach the wall. But we do. Why?
That's Zeno's paradox.
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 2:09 pm
-[[Yreka!]]-
Think that you're walking towards a wall. You go half way, then another half way, and so on and so forth. You will always be going 1/2 of the distance you need to go. You technically would then never reach the wall. But we do. Why?
That's Zeno's paradox.
The distance we travel doesn't take into account how large we are, if we were speaking strictly mathamatically...it could go on forever, but in pratical application, nothing really goes on forever.
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 5:10 pm
MistressPaco -[[Yreka!]]-
Think that you're walking towards a wall. You go half way, then another half way, and so on and so forth. You will always be going 1/2 of the distance you need to go. You technically would then never reach the wall. But we do. Why?
That's Zeno's paradox.
The distance we travel doesn't take into account how large we are, if we were speaking strictly mathamatically...it could go on forever, but in pratical application, nothing really goes on forever. Basically because humans aren't a mathmatical equation, nor do we exist in a mathmatical plane, the Paradox does not apply.
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 6:46 pm
But we have to take in to account that distance is nothing but a measure of how many particles one has traveled,and humans do not yet have a full understanding aboot just how small the smallest particle is.(theoretically there could be a particle so small it defies logic)
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 7:51 pm
glitch11 But we have to take in to account that distance is nothing but a measure of how many particles one has traveled,and humans do not yet have a full understanding aboot just how small the smallest particle is.(theoretically there could be a particle so small it defies logic) True =O but as it stands nothing can forever get smaller in our current understanding of the workings of things. What's the smallest thing we know about, quarks or something? (I'm dumb in this aspect XD)
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 8:01 pm
MistressPaco glitch11 But we have to take in to account that distance is nothing but a measure of how many particles one has traveled,and humans do not yet have a full understanding aboot just how small the smallest particle is.(theoretically there could be a particle so small it defies logic) True =O but as it stands nothing can forever get smaller in our current understanding of the workings of things. What's the smallest thing we know about, quarks or something? (I'm dumb in this aspect XD) quarks are the smallest thing we know aboot,but there most likely colossal compared to what really is the smallest thing in the universe.
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 8:06 pm
glitch11 MistressPaco glitch11 But we have to take in to account that distance is nothing but a measure of how many particles one has traveled,and humans do not yet have a full understanding aboot just how small the smallest particle is.(theoretically there could be a particle so small it defies logic) True =O but as it stands nothing can forever get smaller in our current understanding of the workings of things. What's the smallest thing we know about, quarks or something? (I'm dumb in this aspect XD) quarks are the smallest thing we know aboot,but there most likely colossal compared to what really is the smallest thing in the universe. We still can't grasp forever so long as there is a smallest and a largest concept in the world, and to say that there is something always bigger or somethign always smaller -forever-...well to me would some how prove the existance of god XD but that's a bit off the topic. I don't believe in god, in such, any particular religious figure (Agnostic I suppose is the word). But my thoughts are how far does the universe extend, it can' tpossibly go on forever or could it? Trying to fathom the idea of largest, smallest, and furthest has just boggled the hell out of my mind. From M-Paco <_< Captain ADD.
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 8:11 pm
MistressPaco glitch11 MistressPaco glitch11 But we have to take in to account that distance is nothing but a measure of how many particles one has traveled,and humans do not yet have a full understanding aboot just how small the smallest particle is.(theoretically there could be a particle so small it defies logic) True =O but as it stands nothing can forever get smaller in our current understanding of the workings of things. What's the smallest thing we know about, quarks or something? (I'm dumb in this aspect XD) quarks are the smallest thing we know aboot,but there most likely colossal compared to what really is the smallest thing in the universe. We still can't grasp forever so long as there is a smallest and a largest concept in the world, and to say that there is something always bigger or somethign always smaller -forever-...well to me would some how prove the existance of god XD but that's a bit off the topic. I don't believe in god, in such, any particular religious figure (Agnostic I suppose is the word). But my thoughts are how far does the universe extend, it can' tpossibly go on forever or could it? Trying to fathom the idea of largest, smallest, and furthest has just boggled the hell out of my mind. From M-Paco <_< Captain ADD. Well an infinite and a limited unverse both make no logical sense.
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 8:14 pm
glitch11 MistressPaco glitch11 MistressPaco glitch11 But we have to take in to account that distance is nothing but a measure of how many particles one has traveled,and humans do not yet have a full understanding aboot just how small the smallest particle is.(theoretically there could be a particle so small it defies logic) True =O but as it stands nothing can forever get smaller in our current understanding of the workings of things. What's the smallest thing we know about, quarks or something? (I'm dumb in this aspect XD) quarks are the smallest thing we know aboot,but there most likely colossal compared to what really is the smallest thing in the universe. We still can't grasp forever so long as there is a smallest and a largest concept in the world, and to say that there is something always bigger or somethign always smaller -forever-...well to me would some how prove the existance of god XD but that's a bit off the topic. I don't believe in god, in such, any particular religious figure (Agnostic I suppose is the word). But my thoughts are how far does the universe extend, it can' tpossibly go on forever or could it? Trying to fathom the idea of largest, smallest, and furthest has just boggled the hell out of my mind. From M-Paco <_< Captain ADD. Well an infinite and a limited unverse both make no logical sense. Yeah. Nither can really be proven, ever. (well the limited one can) but...if it was limited, there has to be something after it. Doesn't there? nothing can simply just....stop, and there be 'nothing' after it x.x. Unless it were to continue onto it's self, like those old video games where you ran off the screen at the bottom and appeared back at the top.
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 8:26 pm
MistressPaco glitch11 MistressPaco glitch11 MistressPaco glitch11 But we have to take in to account that distance is nothing but a measure of how many particles one has traveled,and humans do not yet have a full understanding aboot just how small the smallest particle is.(theoretically there could be a particle so small it defies logic) True =O but as it stands nothing can forever get smaller in our current understanding of the workings of things. What's the smallest thing we know about, quarks or something? (I'm dumb in this aspect XD) quarks are the smallest thing we know aboot,but there most likely colossal compared to what really is the smallest thing in the universe. We still can't grasp forever so long as there is a smallest and a largest concept in the world, and to say that there is something always bigger or somethign always smaller -forever-...well to me would some how prove the existance of god XD but that's a bit off the topic. I don't believe in god, in such, any particular religious figure (Agnostic I suppose is the word). But my thoughts are how far does the universe extend, it can' tpossibly go on forever or could it? Trying to fathom the idea of largest, smallest, and furthest has just boggled the hell out of my mind. From M-Paco <_< Captain ADD. Well an infinite and a limited unverse both make no logical sense. Yeah. Nither can really be proven, ever. (well the limited one can) but...if it was limited, there has to be something after it. Doesn't there? nothing can simply just....stop, and there be 'nothing' after it x.x. Unless it were to continue onto it's self, like those old video games where you ran off the screen at the bottom and appeared back at the top. Are you suggesting the universe is round?
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 8:48 pm
glitch11 MistressPaco glitch11 MistressPaco glitch11 quarks are the smallest thing we know aboot,but there most likely colossal compared to what really is the smallest thing in the universe. We still can't grasp forever so long as there is a smallest and a largest concept in the world, and to say that there is something always bigger or somethign always smaller -forever-...well to me would some how prove the existance of god XD but that's a bit off the topic. I don't believe in god, in such, any particular religious figure (Agnostic I suppose is the word). But my thoughts are how far does the universe extend, it can' tpossibly go on forever or could it? Trying to fathom the idea of largest, smallest, and furthest has just boggled the hell out of my mind. From M-Paco <_< Captain ADD. Well an infinite and a limited unverse both make no logical sense. Yeah. Nither can really be proven, ever. (well the limited one can) but...if it was limited, there has to be something after it. Doesn't there? nothing can simply just....stop, and there be 'nothing' after it x.x. Unless it were to continue onto it's self, like those old video games where you ran off the screen at the bottom and appeared back at the top. Are you suggesting the universe is round? Not so much round, as in having a 'shape' (because there'd need to be something that would be around that closed shape) but that it continues onto it's self. as in if you just kept going straight, you'd eventually end up back where you came, no matter which way you went. I heard the idea some where, and it seemed like as good an idea as any. Given it can't go on forever nor can it really just stop.
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 9:27 am
I personally think that the universe is limited, but then there is something else beyond our universe, another world inside another galaxy, inside another universe.
Logic though is the belief of the mind that everything has a reason, and logic is the product of trying to explain it. Some things though can't be explained, and therefore they are illogical.
Now did anyone make sense of that? xd
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 9:39 am
Zeno's paradox is solved with simple Mathematical Fact/ Truth
.999 Repeating = 1
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