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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 4:08 pm
Update!I decided to update at the top this time. Go Me. Anways, I wish to ask if there is any way you'd change, remove, or add to the actions below. I want this game tweaked a bit before I go blindly charging in trying to start the game. If the game fails round one, nobody will ever want to play it again, blah blah blah. Please post your input! DX ------------------------------------------------------- 3 Teams: The Gaian Resistance (-Undefined Ammount-)Broken down into Teams of 10 (Or 15 depending on the ammount of players). Each team may come up with a team name, or will be assigned one. Does not have to be plot related. The "Believers" (3)Basically a G-Team, Can help Either Killer or Resistance. The Killers (Sniper/CK) (2)The Game:Each Player that signs up is given a team. The Sniper/CK will be randomly chosen out of all those who have signed up. The Resistance uses its points to capture other players, or gather clues. The Believers, choose to help Killers or Resistance. RESISTANCE TEAMS CAN CHOOSE TO HELP SNIPERS. Each round is based on point values. The teams get together and debate how to use their points. The teams have (pending) points to spend each round. The following actions are taken based on how much points teams spend. Teams can pass to build up points. Unused points are carried over. Point Values undetermined at the moment. Resistance Spends: Investigate Clues: Allows to ask for a clue on either of the killers. (Each round, the teams will get the same clue. No matter if 4 groups all ask for a clue in round ____, they will still recieve the same clue. The clues will change each round. Teams are unable to share information about the clues. Doing so will cause penalization, or removal from game. -SERIOUS- You cannot recieve Old Clues.) Jailing: Jail a member, based on a set point value for each player. The values are unknown to the teams. New Tools: Team will recieve a "kit" which will allow them one round of clue searching, without the sniper being able to disable the clue. Reversal of Fortune: The team switches to the Sniper Benefit set of options listed below. Both sides have this. This way, instead of just having spends that fight, if a team wishes, they can help the sniper. Better than being forced to hunt the sniper. Dark Resistance: Sabotage: Choose a team to recieve a fake/opposite clue. The team will recieve the clue as normal, but instead, it will be false. Sacrifice: For a certain payment, give the rest of your points to the sniper to spend. Backstab: Take half of the Sniper's current points, and remove them from game. Only can be done once. Reversal of Fortune: The team switches to the Sniper Benefit set of options listed below. Both sides have this. This way, instead of just having spends that fight, if a team wishes, they can help the sniper. Better than being forced to hunt the sniper.
Killer Spends: Infiltration: Learn a clue about the leaders of each team. Kill: Kills, based on a certain point value Hidden Cover: Blocks team from recieveing clue. Only works on two teams. Example: Teams 1, 3, 4, and 7 all ask for clues. Sniper picks who's evidence to destroy. Say they pick 3 and 7. 1 and 4 will recieve a PM with their clue also written in story format. 3 and 7 will recieve a message saying they were unsuccessful in their search.) DRAMA WILL CAUSE YOUR TEAM TO BE DOCKED POINTS. Current Flaws: If the Believers protect the Killers, and the Killers are about to be caught, I have no idea how to protect that from ruining the game. Once they're protected, the Resistance would instantly know Inactivities.
---------------------------------------------------------------- Sample Day One, No Real Gameplay yet. Shoy was bored. "... I give you, the woman who set up a system to keep our cities safe from crime, Miss Zaeyde," the mayor spoke, stepping away from the podium. A woman with white hair and a peculiar outfit walked across the wooden platform. The mayor, along with the crowd, clapped as she approached the stand. "Hello there. I'm sure the mayor has already announced, but I am Zaeyde. I have spent the last year working to catch the deadly killers and bring justice to the cities of Gaia," the lady spoke, a slight tiredness to her voice, also apparent in her eyes. The missus was in a odd outfit, but not too strange from the common dress of the many other people within the crowd. Her silver spiked hair, the robotic prothstetics she had from working on the force displaying in places. She wore a anti-bite mask across her face. Wether this was a fasion statement or there for a reason, most did not know. She had spent most of her life working to catch the ever popular method of killing, sniping. Other killers had emerged, but few got away from her cunning and her team of deductive people. "Protected us? You sent half of our citizens to jail while mindlessly running around like chickens with their heads cut off. You call that justice?" a man in the croud stated, a scowl on his face. "You basically declared anyone who fit a tiny bit of your clues to be guility, as if it were the Salem Witch Trials. I would hardly call that defense." "If you noticed, those who were sent to jail were safe from being killed by the snipers. All who entered lived, unless we were able to affirm," Zaeyde replied, slight irritation to her voice. "I am amazed though. Every time you would catch a sniper, they'd instantly give up and you would all know it was the sniper. There was no more searching, you just instantly knew. I am ashamed by the killers though. Each of them, cowards." The man continued to speak, even while she talked. "If you would let me talk, I might be able to continue why we are here, and have some of your questions answered, sir. Now let me continue." Zaeyde said, smiling. The man groaned. "The current system of catching the criminals of today is starting to lose its effectivity. Starting tommorow, a new system will be put in place. I have had time to talk with some of Gaia's major organizations and we have all worked to create a new ground. We are tired of watching innocents be killed without reason. I give you--" Zaeyde stopped mid sentence. The usually half open eyes grew wide. She dropped the pitchfork that kept her standing. Her head slumped onto the podium, her legs collapsing bringing the rest of her body to a loud thump on the ground. The crowd looked in horror as blood slowly crawled across the wood floors, off the stage and onto the dirt below. The Mayor stood up, running over to Zaeyde's now lifeless corpse. The crowd panicked. "I THOUGHT I HEARD A GUNSHOT," one man shouted. The now dazed people ran in all directions, one unorganized mass of pure chaos. Screaming children ran for their parents. Nobody seemed to notice that Zaeyde lie down, her hand with her index finger pointing out, at the one man still standing in the crowd, wearing a pitch dark cloak, and a rifle in hand. Among the trampled ground, lie a man, a large knife sticking out of his chest, and in blood wrote on his chest, "I'm baaaaack. <3" ---------------------------------------------------------------- Update: I plan to run this game as a seccondary Sniper Game, signups also on February 1st, like the main SG. I wish to have someone else help work out the kinks on this system, before I throw it out there. If you want to help, PM me. :3 This game will not replace the SG, but run as stated before, a Mini-Game/Seccondary Sniper Game. Thank you! <3~ Sample Update, and Resistance (on Sniper Side) options comming soon. Need a point value system in place too. CATCHY TITLE TOO. XDD Update: Maybe this could be another topic in the Main Forum. Remember how the Sniper Game was run within a topic in the GCD? Well, I would be willing to run this game in a topic here in the main forum, as a seccondary Sniper Game. If you like it, I'll continue it. If you hate it, then it can go away. This will not be the "New" Sniper Game. This will be like a seccondary Sniper Game Version, or a Minigame. Whichever you wish to call it. <3 Okay. So this is my current plot as a new SG. I don't plan to see it in action. I know I'll probably be shot down. I don't care. Here's what I was thinking as a new sniper game. I took time to write it out. Any suggestions or comments are loved. If you want to flame me, go ahead. I don't want anyone flaming the flamers though. They want to b***h, let em. It won't effect me. I know you all hate change, so I don't have high hopes. I just thought I'd show what I had. Ready thy guns. >3>; Just remember, your wounds leave scars, and they don't just stay here. I've seen what you've done with DeGei's thread of Ideas, and I know what happens. I realize this, and yet I put this before you anyways.
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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 4:16 pm
"Im more insane then you"This is a fun idea and all.... But its just not the sniper game any more if you change it this much...
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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 4:17 pm
It's interesting, but it's a whole new game. It's totally different from what this game is. If you really want to go through with this, you could make it a mini-game in the Sniped D.
If this was to become the regular game, it would no longer be Zae's creation. It would be yours. <3 This guild is for Zae's game.
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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 4:18 pm
inasanemonkey1230 It's interesting, but it's a whole new game. It's totally different from what this game is. If you really want to go through with this, you could make it a mini-game in the Sniped D. If this was to become the regular game, it would no longer be Zae's creation. It would be yours. <3 We should have a thing with lots of mini Sniper Games. I have an idea for one with 50% Killers. XD
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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 4:20 pm
FortenraAskasa inasanemonkey1230 It's interesting, but it's a whole new game. It's totally different from what this game is. If you really want to go through with this, you could make it a mini-game in the Sniped D. If this was to become the regular game, it would no longer be Zae's creation. It would be yours. <3 We should have a thing with lots of mini Sniper Games. I have an idea for one with 50% Killers. XD I wouldn't mind mini-games, as long as they didn't become more popular than the main one. I had an interesting idea as well that involved everyone on mule accounts. ;D
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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 4:24 pm
inasanemonkey1230 FortenraAskasa inasanemonkey1230 It's interesting, but it's a whole new game. It's totally different from what this game is. If you really want to go through with this, you could make it a mini-game in the Sniped D. If this was to become the regular game, it would no longer be Zae's creation. It would be yours. <3 We should have a thing with lots of mini Sniper Games. I have an idea for one with 50% Killers. XD I wouldn't mind mini-games, as long as they didn't become more popular than the main one. I had an interesting idea as well that involved everyone on mule accounts. ;D I like the mule accounts idea. XD No one can join with a familar face. <3 That would probably spice things up a bit.
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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 4:24 pm
A Dragonflys Sin "Im more insane then you"This is a fun idea and all.... But its just not the sniper game any more if you change it this much... I second that, though I didn't fully understand it all, since brain feels like it went "boom". gonk I atempted to understand it, and I got most of it, but I agree with Sin.
It's Time to D-D-R!
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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 4:29 pm
Roy Salamandra inasanemonkey1230 FortenraAskasa inasanemonkey1230 It's interesting, but it's a whole new game. It's totally different from what this game is. If you really want to go through with this, you could make it a mini-game in the Sniped D. If this was to become the regular game, it would no longer be Zae's creation. It would be yours. <3 We should have a thing with lots of mini Sniper Games. I have an idea for one with 50% Killers. XD I wouldn't mind mini-games, as long as they didn't become more popular than the main one. I had an interesting idea as well that involved everyone on mule accounts. ;D I like the mule accounts idea. XD No one can join with a familar face. <3 That would probably spice things up a bit. We need a place for mini games!
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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 4:31 pm
Roy Salamandra inasanemonkey1230 FortenraAskasa inasanemonkey1230 It's interesting, but it's a whole new game. It's totally different from what this game is. If you really want to go through with this, you could make it a mini-game in the Sniped D. If this was to become the regular game, it would no longer be Zae's creation. It would be yours. <3 We should have a thing with lots of mini Sniper Games. I have an idea for one with 50% Killers. XD I wouldn't mind mini-games, as long as they didn't become more popular than the main one. I had an interesting idea as well that involved everyone on mule accounts. ;D I like the mule accounts idea. XD No one can join with a familar face. <3 That would probably spice things up a bit. ^_^ That's the gist of it~ Let's stay on the topic of Shoy's idea for now, though. Mini-games would really be a fun idea for the guild, though. ^^
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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 4:34 pm
inasanemonkey1230 Roy Salamandra inasanemonkey1230 FortenraAskasa inasanemonkey1230 It's interesting, but it's a whole new game. It's totally different from what this game is. If you really want to go through with this, you could make it a mini-game in the Sniped D. If this was to become the regular game, it would no longer be Zae's creation. It would be yours. <3 We should have a thing with lots of mini Sniper Games. I have an idea for one with 50% Killers. XD I wouldn't mind mini-games, as long as they didn't become more popular than the main one. I had an interesting idea as well that involved everyone on mule accounts. ;D I like the mule accounts idea. XD No one can join with a familar face. <3 That would probably spice things up a bit. ^_^ That's the gist of it~ Let's stay on the topic of Shoy's idea for now, though. Mini-games would really be a fun idea for the guild, though. ^^ Thing about it being a mini-game though is that not alot of people will join it, as compared to the main game. Or at least thats what I think would happen, but I guess we'd have to try it out first before making any assumptions.
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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 4:35 pm
This is very well-thought out. I had a similar idea (well, working in teams, anyway) but I abandoned it since I couldn't figure out how I'd make it work. But this set-up looks like it could work.
As for your little problem: do the 'believers' just protect people from getting killed, or do they protect them from getting jailed, too?
For the rest of you: I'm not sure, but didn't Zae say that new GMs could make any changes they wanted? I dunno, I don't remember. In any case, the premise is still the same; you're still trying to catch the killers, just in a different way.
And as much as I hate to repeat myself (and as much as I hate to say it): the game's getting boring. If the change isn't drastic or noticeable, you're still playing the same old thing but. Adding more killers or more roles can only do so much; if you want to keep things interesting, you've got to put a new spin on it. If things keep going the way they're going, more and more people will drift away until it comes to a point where no one is going to want to play anymore.
Thinking outside the box, guys.
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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 4:37 pm
Roy Salamandra inasanemonkey1230 Roy Salamandra inasanemonkey1230 FortenraAskasa We should have a thing with lots of mini Sniper Games. I have an idea for one with 50% Killers. XD I wouldn't mind mini-games, as long as they didn't become more popular than the main one. I had an interesting idea as well that involved everyone on mule accounts. ;D I like the mule accounts idea. XD No one can join with a familar face. <3 That would probably spice things up a bit. ^_^ That's the gist of it~ Let's stay on the topic of Shoy's idea for now, though. Mini-games would really be a fun idea for the guild, though. ^^ Thing about it being a mini-game though is that not alot of people will join it, as compared to the main game. Or at least thats what I think would happen, but I guess we'd have to try it out first before making any assumptions. Yeah. I have ideas for games, but they need 50 + people, and I don't think that many would join. D:
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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 4:52 pm
Truthfully, this seems like a logical evolution of the Sniper Game. I'm all for doing it in any form. ^^ I also like the mules only idea.
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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 4:59 pm
Phoenecia This is very well-thought out. I had a similar idea (well, working in teams, anyway) but I abandoned it since I couldn't figure out how I'd make it work. But this set-up looks like it could work. As for your little problem: do the 'believers' just protect people from getting killed, or do they protect them from getting jailed, too? For the rest of you: I'm not sure, but didn't Zae say that new GMs could make any changes they wanted? I dunno, I don't remember. In any case, the premise is still the same; you're still trying to catch the killers, just in a different way. And as much as I hate to repeat myself (and as much as I hate to say it): the game's getting boring. If the change isn't drastic or noticeable, you're still playing the same old thing but. Adding more killers or more roles can only do so much; if you want to keep things interesting, you've got to put a new spin on it. If things keep going the way they're going, more and more people will drift away until it comes to a point where no one is going to want to play anymore. Thinking outside the box, guys. The whole reason I bothered to make this was with the idea that the conventional play was getting a little crusty. If you could find a way, or anyone to find a way, that could combine the old with the new, I'd love it. I'm tempted to say "a little of both" for the Believers, but I am unsure. How would someone go about protecting from jailings? Plus, if we had a rude person, they'd end up protecting the sheeps each round and we'd go no where. I know this isn't Zae's game anymore, but we could make it to be OUR game. The Sniper Game isn't just a little topic any more. It's a community. Zae can be the founder, she can be the original, but we shouldn't restrict ourselves just because it is the way it has been. I hope to have everyone's input on how the game should be made. I do not want to see comments where it's "it would change the game would be played from the original" which is what this is intended to do. I'll write up a "Reader's Digest" version of this later.
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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 5:08 pm
Truthfully, I just have to say this, and I know it's going to be a bit mean to some, and I'll get hit with a few objects.
In case you all haven't noticed... Zae's not here. And there were more people than Zae to begin with. And this The Gaian Community Sniper Game, not The Zaeyde Community Sniper Game. Also, the game is based off the game Mafia, just with Gaian titles, so it's not really ALL original to begin with.
So it's pretty much up to the people to decide HOW a Gaian Sniper Game is played, may it be with the style of Mafia or Shoy's idea.
I'm open to comments, crit, and pointy objects now.
HirunHikari

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