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A Murder of Angels
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 7:19 pm


I tried to post this earlier, but Gaia wasn't working right for me. There's a lunar eclipse of the moon going on right now, visible in Colorado and possibly a few other western sates. It will be at it's climax at about 8:30, mountain time.

Now I know most of you can't see it, so here's my discussion. Some religions place a special emphasis on the moon. I think Neo-Pagans do so more than any other religion, but I'm certain that at one point in history, nearly all religions had some kind of teaching or belief that related to the moon. (Like in Judaism and Christianity when the moon was placed in the sky during the creation)

I'm interested in knowing what everyone here thinks of the moon, from a spiritual perspective. And if you want to be more specific, do you place any spiritual meaning on eclipses, and if so, what is that meaning?

~*~*~*~*~*~

As a Pagan, I view the moon as a reflection of life. When it grows, it reflects how life grows, and when it shrinks, it reflects life coming to an end. During the short time when the moon is new, it reflects the time life spends after it's death, before being reborn to start the cycle again.

An eclipse is so much more special that a regular moon cycle. Instead of taking a full 28 days to go through the cycle, the moon goes from full, waning, turns a rosy-pink, waxing, back to full again, all within a span of two hours. Not only that, but this particular eclipse is happening right before Samhain, too! The way I see it, the moon is most powerful when it's full, so a full cycle of the moon while remaining full is all the more special. Furthermore, Samhain is the time when the spirit world (or astram and etheric realms, if you will) comes closest to the physical world, represented by death. So the moon, dead, yet still full, this close to the time of death, is a very special and powerful sight to behold. This is by far the most powerful lunar event I've ever experienced during my time as a Pagan.
PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 7:55 pm


Most powerful experience in your life as a pagan... this is almost comical, but it would be for me too... as I just recently accepted what I chose my path to be.

Anyway, I've always felt more energized during the two short phases of the moon, new and full. I have a renewed energy, the ability to go for hours and think faster than ever. This is a crazy night because I felt an overflow of energy... and couldn't place it. And thus this explains it. Now I'm going to go check the progress of the moon... excuse me.

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A Murder of Angels
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 8:00 pm


fntsywrter86
Most powerful experience in your life as a pagan... this is almost comical, but it would be for me too... as I just recently accepted what I chose my path to be.

Anyway, I've always felt more energized during the two short phases of the moon, new and full. I have a renewed energy, the ability to go for hours and think faster than ever. This is a crazy night because I felt an overflow of energy... and couldn't place it. And thus this explains it. Now I'm going to go check the progress of the moon... excuse me.


I didn't say the most powerful experience ever... I said the most powerful LUNAR experience so far... There's a difference. 3nodding

What I meant is the is the largest surge of pure natural energy that I've ever felt. whee
PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 8:02 pm


freakyclown15


I didn't say the most powerful experience ever... I said the most powerful LUNAR experience so far... There's a difference. 3nodding

What I meant is the is the largest surge of pure natural nevery that I've ever felt. whee


Still holds true for me. And I'm currently trying to keep my energies in check... new and full moon simultaneously is screwing with me... I'm not used to having both times of the month when I'm strongest at the same time.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 12:16 pm


freakyclown15

An eclipse is so much more special that a regular moon cycle. Instead of taking a full 28 days to go through the cycle, the moon goes from full, waning, turns a rosy-pink, waxing, back to full again, all within a span of two hours. Not only that, but this particular eclipse is happening right before Samhain, too! The way I see it, the moon is most powerful when it's full, so a full cycle of the moon while remaining full is all the more special. Furthermore, Samhain is the time when the spirit world (or astram and etheric realms, if you will) comes closest to the physical world, represented by death. So the moon, dead, yet still full, this close to the time of death, is a very special and powerful sight to behold. This is by far the most powerful lunar event I've ever experienced during my time as a Pagan.


That's a very cool way to think about a lunar eclipse. I got to see it last night at our school's observatory, so I saw it outside, and through the telescope. It was a very cool event indeed. biggrin
PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 1:12 pm


Well, the Islamic calendar is a Lunar Calender. We just put Islamic dates like the beginning and ending of Ramadan depending on the siting of the moon.

But there is not much of a religious emphasis. There is a Surah in the Qur'an called Surah Qamar, Qamar in Arabic means moon. I haven't read it yet, therefore I shall do so as soon as I can.

There was a sign/miracle granted by Allah (the most high) to Muhammad (peace be upon him).
He split the moon in two, and it was seen as far as India I think.

However there is no special emphasis except for time.
I'll add more to this post as soon as I find some more info.

Quratulain


jennyrules930

PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2004 8:10 am


I follow my own religion . . . the next closest thing is pagan . . .

But I've always been fascinated by the moon . . . my grandmother used to tell me a story about how a goddess once loved a mortal man and was imprisoned in an orb for not being faithful to her husband . . .

Yeah.
PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 11:35 pm


here is one of my favorite moon stories, mystical and magical, from "Momo", a book by Michael Ende who wrote "The Neverending Story".

the book is about Momo and her friend guido who are poor street children sustaining each other on dreams and stories. here, Guido tells a story about the moon, some mythic characters, and themseves:

Princess Momo had a magic mirror, big and round and made
of the finest silver. Every day and every night she used to send it out into
the world, and the big round mirror soared over land and sea, town and
countryside.
People who saw it weren't a bit surprised. All they ever said was, "Ah,
there's the moon."
'Well, every time the magic mirror came back to the princess it would
empty out the reflections it had collected on its travels, beautiful and
ugly, interesting and dull, as the case might be. The princess picked out
the ones she liked best. The others she simply threw into a stream, and
quicker than the speed of thought these discarded reflections sped back to
their owners along the waterways of the earth. That's why you'll find your
own reflection looking at you whenever you bend over a stream or a pool of
water.
'I forgot to mention that Princess Momo was immortal. Why? Because
she'd never seen her own reflection in the magic mirror, and anyone who saw
his own reflection in it became mortal at once. Being well aware of this,
Princess Momo took care not to do so. She'd always been quite content to
live and play with her many other reflections.
'One day, however, the magic mirror brought her a reflection that
appealed to her more than any other. It was the reflection of a young
prince. As soon as she saw it, she longed to meet him face to face. How was
she to set about it, though? She didn't know where he lived or who he was -
she didn't even know his name.
'For want of a better idea, she decided to look into the magic mirror
after all, thinking that it might carry her own reflection to the prince.
There was a chance that he might be looking up at the sky when the mirror
floated past and would see her in it. Perhaps he would follow the mirror
back to the palace and find her there.
'So she gazed into the mirror, long and hard, and sent it off around
the world with her reflection. By so doing, of course, she lost her
immortality.
'Before saying what happened to her next, I must tell you something
about the prince.
'His name was Girolamo, and he ruled a great kingdom of his own
creation. This kingdom was situated neither in the present nor the past, but
always one day ahead in the future, which was why it was called Futuria.
Everyone who dwelt there loved and admired the prince.
' "Your Royal Highness," the prince's advisers told him one day, "it's
time you got married."
'The prince had no objection, so Futuria's loveliest young ladies were
brought to the palace for him to choose from. They all made themselves look
as beautiful as possible, because each of them naturally wanted his choice
to fall on her.
'Among them, however, was a wicked fairy who had managed to sneak into
the palace. The blood that ran in her veins was green and cold, not red and
warm, but nobody noticed this because she had painted her face so skilfully.
'When the Prince of Futuria entered the great, golden throne room she
quickly muttered such a potent spell that poor Girolamo had eyes for no one
but her. He found her so incomparably beautiful that he asked her on the
spot if she would be his wife.
'"With pleasure," hissed the wicked fairy, "but only on one condition."
'"Name it," the prince said promptly, without a second thought.
'"Very well," said the wicked fairy, and she smiled so sweetly that the
poor prince's head swam. "For one whole year, you must never look up at the
moon in the sky. If you do, you will instantly lose all your royal
possessions. You will forget who you really are and find yourself
transported to the land of Presentia, where you will lead the life of a
poor, unknown wretch. Do you accept my terms?"
' "If that's all you ask," cried Prince Girolamo, "what could be
easier!"
'Meanwhile, Princess Momo had been waiting in vain for the prince to
appear, so she resolved to venture out into the
world and look for him. She let all her reflections go and, leaving her
stained-glass palace behind, set off down the snow-clad mountainside in her
dainty little slippers. She roamed the world until she came to Presentia, by
which time her slippers were worn out and she had to go barefoot, but the
magic mirror bearing her reflection continued to soar overhead.
'One night, while Prince Girolamo was sitting on the roof of his golden
palace, playing checkers with the fairy whose blood was cold and green, he
felt a little drop of moisture on his hand.
' "Ah," said the green-blooded fairy, "it's starting to rain."
'"It can't be," said the prince. "There isn't a cloud in the sky."
'And he looked up, straight into the big silver mirror soaring
overhead, and saw from Princess Momo's reflection that she was weeping and
that one of her tears had fallen on to his hand. And at that instant he
realized that the fairy had tricked him - that she wasn't beautiful at all
and had cold, green blood in her veins. His true love, he realized, was
Princess Momo.
'"You've broken your promise," snapped the green-blooded fairy,
scowling so hideously that she looked like a snake, "and now you must pay
the price!"
'And then, while Prince Girolamo sat there as though paralysed, she
reached inside him with her long, green fingers and tied a knot in his
heart. Instantly forgetting that he was the Prince of Futuria, he slunk out
of his palace like a thief in the night and wandered far and wide till he
came to Presentia, where he took the name Guido and lived a life of poverty
and obscurity. All he'd brought with him was Princess Momo's reflection from
the magic mirror, which was blank from then on.
'By now Princess Momo had abandoned the ragged remains of her silk and
satin gown. She wore a patchwork
dress and a man's cast-off jacket, far too big for her, and was living
in an ancient ruin.
'When the two of them met there one fine day. Princess Momo failed to
recognize poor, good-for-nothing Guido as the Prince of Futuria. Guido
didn't recognize her either, because she no longer looked like a princess,
but they became companions in misfortune and a source of consolation to each
other.
'One evening when the magic mirror, now blank, was floating across the
sky, Guido took out Memo's reflection and showed it to her. Crumpled and
faded though it was, the princess immediately recognized it as her own - the
one she'd sent soaring around the world. And then, as she peered more
closely at the poor wretch beside her, she saw he was the long-sought prince
for whose sake she had renounced her immortality.
'She told him the whole story, but Guido sadly shook his head. "Your
words, mean nothing to me," he said. "There's a knot in my heart, and it
stops me remembering."
'So Princess Momo laid her hand on his breast and untied the knot in
his heart with ease, and Prince Girolamo suddenly remembered who he was and
where he came from. And he took Princess Momo by the hand and led her far,
tar away, to the distant land of Futuria.'
They both sat silent for a while when Guido had finished. Then Momo
asked, 'Did they ever get married?'
'I think so,' said Guido, '- later on.'
'And are they dead now?'
'No,' Guido said firmly, 'I happen to know that for a fact. The magic
mirror only made you mortal if you looked into it on your own. If two people
looked into it together, it made them immortal again, and that's what those
two did.'
The big, silver moon floated high above the dark pine
trees, bathing the ruin's ancient stonework in its mysterious light.
Momo and Guido sat there side by side, gazing up at it for a long time and
feeling quite certain that, if only for the space of that enchanted moment,
the pair of them were immortal.

chessiejo


Psychedelic Midnight

PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 10:42 am


The moon doesn't really have much of a spiritual significance for me.

"Praise ye him, sun and moon: praise him, all ye stars of light. Praise him, ye heavens of heavens, and ye waters that be above the heavens. Let them praise the name of the LORD: for he commanded, and they were created." (Psalm 148:3-5)
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