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The Blind Angel Victor

PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 8:31 pm


This is the trailer to my new movie "Emo of the Dead." Yes its a comedy/horror, please watch and comment on it.

http://www.ourmedia.org/node/17006
PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 7:28 pm


no


emo is bad, and that looked.................worst than freddy vs. jason

sorry but its true

pimpkilla2


The_Wicked_Man
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 10:33 am


pimpkilla2
no


emo is bad, and that looked.................worst than freddy vs. jason

sorry but its true


I'm actually surprised someone would even compare a movie shot on a home video camera (poorly) that looks like it was edited and cut with a meat cleaver to a lackluster film made by professionals.

At least Freddy Vs. Jason had a cool look. The only thing that really brought that film down was the acting.
PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2005 8:05 pm


Alright. Well lets look here. Have you ever made a movie? A movie with a home video camera? With limited supplies? Barely any money? Yet for your love of film and trying to become a director, you decide to make what is suppose to be a horror/comedy yet your true images can't be made because you aren't that rich guy with his canon xl2, decent budget, and everything he needs with a simple call. Yet you all criticize it by somewhat comparing it to the big budget, or bigger budget movies that have all the advantages now that I don't. When they didn't they made movies with that film quality, every young director does. So when you all decide to get off your asses, away from the computer and try to film a movie with your own two hands, just then you can tell me that it sucks. So get away from the computer and try to do something with your life instead of sitting there and criticizing something that at least is good for what supplies are available. Yet by mister worst then Freddy Vs. Jason cant seem to comprehend that movies like that are made by big shot directors and corporations and doesn't give any god damn respect to the people that try to make something that would please the people with nothing, no big anything. So you go out with twenty dollars in your wallet, hand held camera, and only friends with no acting experience, and make a better zombie movie. Then we will see if you criticize the movie.

The Blind Angel Victor


Saroku

PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2005 11:23 am


For heaven's sake, The_Wicked_Man, I've seen you all over this guild bashing peoples' threads.

I know how hard it is to make and edit a home movie. xp Don't give in to the temptation of just editing messily!^^I thought yours was pretty well edited, for the resources you had, but the music covered up any dialogue there might have been.
PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2005 5:23 pm


The_Wicked_Man
pimpkilla2
no


emo is bad, and that looked.................worst than freddy vs. jason

sorry but its true


I'm actually surprised someone would even compare a movie shot on a home video camera (poorly) that looks like it was edited and cut with a meat cleaver to a lackluster film made by professionals.

At least Freddy Vs. Jason had a cool look. The only thing that really brought that film down was the acting.
i know it was a joke

actauly that movie made me laugh my a** off, when that black chick got hit with the machete and flew like 40 fete, ohh that was to good

pimpkilla2


pimpkilla2

PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2005 5:24 pm


The Blind Angel Victor
Alright. Well lets look here. Have you ever made a movie? A movie with a home video camera? With limited supplies? Barely any money? Yet for your love of film and trying to become a director, you decide to make what is suppose to be a horror/comedy yet your true images can't be made because you aren't that rich guy with his canon xl2, decent budget, and everything he needs with a simple call. Yet you all criticize it by somewhat comparing it to the big budget, or bigger budget movies that have all the advantages now that I don't. When they didn't they made movies with that film quality, every young director does. So when you all decide to get off your asses, away from the computer and try to film a movie with your own two hands, just then you can tell me that it sucks. So get away from the computer and try to do something with your life instead of sitting there and criticizing something that at least is good for what supplies are available. Yet by mister worst then Freddy Vs. Jason cant seem to comprehend that movies like that are made by big shot directors and corporations and doesn't give any god damn respect to the people that try to make something that would please the people with nothing, no big anything. So you go out with twenty dollars in your wallet, hand held camera, and only friends with no acting experience, and make a better zombie movie. Then we will see if you criticize the movie.
i just think its a crappy idea to be honest

i know its hard work and all, but for real, emo sucks
PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2005 7:05 pm


The Blind Angel Victor
Alright. Well lets look here. Have you ever made a movie? A movie with a home video camera? With limited supplies? Barely any money? Yet for your love of film and trying to become a director, you decide to make what is suppose to be a horror/comedy yet your true images can't be made because you aren't that rich guy with his canon xl2, decent budget, and everything he needs with a simple call. Yet you all criticize it by somewhat comparing it to the big budget, or bigger budget movies that have all the advantages now that I don't. When they didn't they made movies with that film quality, every young director does. So when you all decide to get off your asses, away from the computer and try to film a movie with your own two hands, just then you can tell me that it sucks. So get away from the computer and try to do something with your life instead of sitting there and criticizing something that at least is good for what supplies are available. Yet by mister worst then Freddy Vs. Jason cant seem to comprehend that movies like that are made by big shot directors and corporations and doesn't give any god damn respect to the people that try to make something that would please the people with nothing, no big anything. So you go out with twenty dollars in your wallet, hand held camera, and only friends with no acting experience, and make a better zombie movie. Then we will see if you criticize the movie.


Nowhere did I compare your film to those of professional quality. I simply said that one follows basic rules, and the other ignores them; therefore, there is nothing to compare.

Yes, I am a film major and am currently mastering the art of DV (both filming and editing). I'm even busy helping a buddy of mine is even trying to get an underground production company started so I am already very aware of the difficulty of finding the money supplies I need to make visions come true.

However, I don't give up, cut back, or make bargains when there are production problems. No, I go all out; I'd even postpone a production until I have the money I need to buy a complete wardrobe for a character or sheets needed to cover walls. I've seen other movies made by people with home video cameras, but at least those people would use background music (added in post) at a volume low enough so I can understand scenes with dialogue. For all your talk about visual aspects like set, props, makeup, and acting, you seemed to have forgotten that sound is also a very important part of any film. Don't tell me you could not find a microphone somewhere and get your friends to re-record the lines (or even adjust the sound so that it is lower than the spoken lines or add subtitles). How do you expect someone to appreciate this when you did not even make an effort for them to understand the dialogue, and if it was not anything important, why include it in the trailer? Just keep these things in mind when you put the rest of this project together.

And by the way, word of the wise: It is not very wise to claim someone you know absolutely nothing about has no life when you have absolutely no idea what said person is doing and has done.

The_Wicked_Man
Vice Captain


pimpkilla2

PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2005 8:39 pm


The_Wicked_Man
The Blind Angel Victor
Alright. Well lets look here. Have you ever made a movie? A movie with a home video camera? With limited supplies? Barely any money? Yet for your love of film and trying to become a director, you decide to make what is suppose to be a horror/comedy yet your true images can't be made because you aren't that rich guy with his canon xl2, decent budget, and everything he needs with a simple call. Yet you all criticize it by somewhat comparing it to the big budget, or bigger budget movies that have all the advantages now that I don't. When they didn't they made movies with that film quality, every young director does. So when you all decide to get off your asses, away from the computer and try to film a movie with your own two hands, just then you can tell me that it sucks. So get away from the computer and try to do something with your life instead of sitting there and criticizing something that at least is good for what supplies are available. Yet by mister worst then Freddy Vs. Jason cant seem to comprehend that movies like that are made by big shot directors and corporations and doesn't give any god damn respect to the people that try to make something that would please the people with nothing, no big anything. So you go out with twenty dollars in your wallet, hand held camera, and only friends with no acting experience, and make a better zombie movie. Then we will see if you criticize the movie.


Nowhere did I compare your film to those of professional quality. I simply said that one follows basic rules, and the other ignores them; therefore, there is nothing to compare.

Yes, I am a film major and am currently mastering the art of DV (both filming and editing). I'm even busy helping a buddy of mine is even trying to get an underground production company started so I am already very aware of the difficulty of finding the money supplies I need to make visions come true.

However, I don't give up, cut back, or make bargains when there are production problems. No, I go all out; I'd even postpone a production until I have the money I need to buy a complete wardrobe for a character or sheets needed to cover walls. I've seen other movies made by people with home video cameras, but at least those people would use background music (added in post) at a volume low enough so I can understand scenes with dialogue. For all your talk about visual aspects like set, props, makeup, and acting, you seemed to have forgotten that sound is also a very important part of any film. Don't tell me you could not find a microphone somewhere and get your friends to re-record the lines (or even adjust the sound so that it is lower than the spoken lines or add subtitles). How do you expect someone to appreciate this when you did not even make an effort for them to understand the dialogue, and if it was not anything important, why include it in the trailer? Just keep these things in mind when you put the rest of this project together.

And by the way, word of the wise: It is not very wise to claim someone you know absolutely nothing about has no life when you have absolutely no idea what said person is doing and has done.
harsh, but i must say well said

ive made a few short movies, like three minutes long, but theye were just to ******** around, nothing realy, im not into the whole making music thing, i just kinda chill and do my thing
PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 11:25 am


The thing is I don't want anyone to hear that part. If I did you would of heard it. Also I have postponed shooting until I can get more emo zombies. Pimp-I use emo because I hate the emo scene. I use their scene as zombies, they are infecting others. This movie is agaisnt emo. And the whole word of the wise bullshit I was given, you went out of your way to criticize the trailer with thinking about the constraints, because you absolutely knew nothing about, and still you expect me not to criticize you when i know absolutely nothing about you. To be a film major you surely just assumed what I did was just lazy, you didn't bother to think what I did was experimental, thought outside the box, or what anyone is taught. So next time you criticize a trailer or a movie for certain parts, first try to see what they thought instead of automatically assuming they are just being lazy, then I will stop criticizing people that i know nothing about.

The Blind Angel Victor


The_Wicked_Man
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 1:01 pm


The Blind Angel Victor
The thing is I don't want anyone to hear that part. If I did you would of heard it. Also I have postponed shooting until I can get more emo zombies. Pimp-I use emo because I hate the emo scene. I use their scene as zombies, they are infecting others. This movie is agaisnt emo. And the whole word of the wise bullshit I was given, you went out of your way to criticize the trailer with thinking about the constraints, because you absolutely knew nothing about, and still you expect me not to criticize you when i know absolutely nothing about you. To be a film major you surely just assumed what I did was just lazy, you didn't bother to think what I did was experimental, thought outside the box, or what anyone is taught. So next time you criticize a trailer or a movie for certain parts, first try to see what they thought instead of automatically assuming they are just being lazy, then I will stop criticizing people that i know nothing about.


In the same post, I even asked if you did not want anyone to hear the dialogue, then why include the scene in the trailer in the first place?

And what's with this "I don't know anything about the production" when you are showing of parts of it on the Internet? I can figure out pleanty from that trailer (budget, the way in which it was put together, the fact that it includes scenes and elements that serve no purpose and you never wanted to have appear in the first place, et al.). Of course you're lazy, you didn't even attempt to put a trailer together that only includes the elements that you want viewers to know about, and since when was including scenes carrying no significance in the trailer thought to be "experimental"? That is not experimental; yes, it exists outside the walls of convention, but it certainly is not anything innovative. If anything, it acts as a blatant disregard for proper filmmaking techniques that are used to keep viewers from getting confused (Not in that "Fight Club twist-ending" way, which I am fine with, but more in a "that guy just broke the 180-degree rule in the crosscut dialogue sequence and now I am disoriented," which, unless the scene includes a dramatic change that is meant to be stressful, disorienting, and/or unnerving for a character, like the scene in A Clockwork Orange when Alex first arrives at the prison, is mainly a bad thing).
PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 5:04 pm


You just look at it and see no purpose. Its not about seeing, its more mental. I wan't people to see it and wonder whether they are making a plan, or just chatting like everyday teens. Not know it,if they knew what was going on it would take away from it completely. If they are interested and really want to know, they will wait for the entire movie to be put up. Yet sadly "Proper film technique" says' what I did was naughty. Yet the trailer included everything I wanted, emo kids turning everyday people into emo kids, regular teens living their life, yet then they fight them. So it has everything it needs. Im sorry it doesn't go out and tell you what happens. Since it was designed to confuse you in a way, just like the rest of the world and the teens. If you feel confused, I did my job. If you don't feel confused well then I need to do a better job next time. The way it was put together wasn't witha fancy editor like final cut pro. It was windows movie maker 2, all I have until my editing program comes in. So I figured I would do what I could with what I have shot, and what editing source I had, make a short trailer see if people enjoy it for what it is and not by "proper technique." Eventhough the proper technique is the one that gets your movie told the way you want it to be. So take away your schooling for film, your camera and editing techiques, and just tell me whether it was funny, or not.

The Blind Angel Victor


The_Wicked_Man
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 9:38 pm


The Blind Angel Victor
You just look at it and see no purpose. Its not about seeing, its more mental. I wan't people to see it and wonder whether they are making a plan, or just chatting like everyday teens. Not know it,if they knew what was going on it would take away from it completely. If they are interested and really want to know, they will wait for the entire movie to be put up. Yet sadly "Proper film technique" says' what I did was naughty. Yet the trailer included everything I wanted, emo kids turning everyday people into emo kids, regular teens living their life, yet then they fight them. So it has everything it needs. Im sorry it doesn't go out and tell you what happens. Since it was designed to confuse you in a way, just like the rest of the world and the teens. If you feel confused, I did my job. If you don't feel confused well then I need to do a better job next time. The way it was put together wasn't witha fancy editor like final cut pro. It was windows movie maker 2, all I have until my editing program comes in. So I figured I would do what I could with what I have shot, and what editing source I had, make a short trailer see if people enjoy it for what it is and not by "proper technique." Eventhough the proper technique is the one that gets your movie told the way you want it to be. So take away your schooling for film, your camera and editing techiques, and just tell me whether it was funny, or not.


Now you explain that you were trying to create ambiguity and spread confusion? Couldn't you have said that earlier--like two posts earlier--instead of just waiting until after I mention every single problem I have uncovered?

Anyway, to fulfill your request, as soon as I heard the muffled dialogue, I was immediately taken straight out of the universe you have created, and could not find my way back in so I can discover what entertainment or comedy value may exist within. You may have disoriented or confused me, but I ended up loosing all interest after that shot. Good job with the zombie make-up though.
PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 12:40 pm


::Twitches:: Damn... I shouldn't have eaten those cookies...
I suggest you look closer at more REAL trailers... Because usually a trailer has MANY scenes from the FINISHED movie... (My caps lock is angry today)
I really don't get it either... Is this going to be a bunch of zombies making Emo music? When I hear "Emo Of The Dead" I think, "Oh crap, zombies writing emo music!" Or is this going to be "The Emotions Of The Dead"?
I don't really like the Idea either... Too... Emo-Game... It's been done, and it was done better...

Skully Kat


blackcobain

PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 5:55 am


The plot sounds good but I like emos so I dont like it in that sense! LOL
I too have made a few short moviesa with freinds. It is not that expensive if you know where to get the right equipment or have good friends. LOL
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