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`Germicide

PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:14 pm


So my mom found my cards. (Tarot)

And now I'm in a frenzy to hide my books.

Anyone have any good spots?

I know I'm supposed to tell her but you know what? I can't. She would cancel my phone and computer and its not worth it and she'd never understand.

So anyone have any handy spots?

I can't put them in my room or in the spare office (Where I have them now) I'm thinking the attic

~Rai
PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:24 pm


Do you have a set of dresser drawers?
If so, take out an entire shelf, set the books in the space between the side of the dresser and the drawer-space, and replace the drawer shelf.
thats what I do.

Or, take the slip covers off of other books and wrap around your books.

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`Germicide

PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:29 pm


I have one of those beds with the cavern underneath. I have LOTS of stuffed animals so I might hide them there.

I'm pretty sure I've done this in a past life.

I dont have a dresser though.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:30 pm


Ooooh, thats good as well.
I forgot about inside under the bed....

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`Germicide

PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:31 pm


Anywhere else you can think of?
PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:31 pm


Inside board game boxes.

Take out the bottom drawer of a dresser and see if you have enough room to put them on the floor underneath the drawer when it goes back in.

Maybe you could hid a few in an 'extra (folded) blanket' you have in your room if you get cold at night sometimes.

Sometimes under certain pieces of furnature, or behind some things up against the wall.

If you have a love seat or cunny chair with a cushion you can pull out, you could probably hide a few under that.

The attic seems alright.

Dorian Requiem
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`Germicide

PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:33 pm


Okay. Hmm...My mom cleaned EVERYWHERE in my room. Do you think its safe to put things there? (In between the drawers?)
PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 7:41 am


You have to be ******** kidding me.

1. You havent told your mother yet? Are you NUTS? Your mother is your legal guardian, she has the high ground in the household, and you haven't told her that you've been thinking of starting something as controversial as witchcraft?

How OLD are you?

2. Your mother found your Tarot cards. She knows that there's most likely more along with it. Meaning she found out youre hiding something from her and you don't trust her enough to tell her no matter what the verdict. That means its going to be that much harder to hide anything.

3. If you can't hide them, how about leving them out in the open where she can find them and then actually TALKING to her about them? Because at this point, if you have nowhere to hide anything, why not have nothing to hide? Shew will find them anyway, its her house.

And you know what? Let her do it. The fact that you woould hide something that big from her isnt exactly a good thing. You don't know that she wouldn't understand. And If she doesnt, you wait until you're out from under her influence. You are a minor, she is your mother. And youre making a major life change without telling her.

Good job.

If you want to know how to tell her so that you have a fighting chance, post as such. But you know what? From the sound of your post, you are screwed. You don't have a choice but to let her know in the best way possible. And if she punishes you, well, take it like a woman.

Aila-al-Jehan


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 10:03 am


Heh. In spite of the brashness of your post, Aila, in this case perhaps it's appropriate. But then it's hard for me to empathize with this sittuation since I've never had this problem. There's always been a fundamental trust between my parents and I and when I was still living at home they'd never do 'room searches' of any kind. Anyway... yeah, it probably is a bit late now. Hiding everything is probably not the wisest option because honestly you shouldn't *have* to hide it. If you do hide more stuff, your mom is probably going to perceive that on a worse note than if you just come clean. If stuff gets taken away, oh well. Go to a local bookstore and read what they have there instead. Practice things that don't require tools or that use tools that look mundane. Hell, I've used a plasma ball to induce alered states of consciousness.
PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 10:17 am


Ive tried telling her in a calm way and at the right time.

You don't know people's lifestyles so you really shouldn't go around telling them they screwed up. Honestly. Get a life and learn to treat people with respect.

I've tried telling her. SO MANY TIMES. But she'd cancel my phone, take away my internet, burn my books and sever all ties with me.

She's Christian. She thinks everything non Christian or Jewish is the work of Satan and is to be out of her house.

Sitting down and talking to my mom is like sitting and talking to a raving baboon. Its not going to happen, she's not going to listen.

She isn't one of those mothers who will listen and research a religion and finally say "Okay I understand" No. She listens to the Bible. NOT what some author of a book or a website will say.

And as for you Aila, the moment I get a chance, I'm reporting you for your rudeness. You've overstayed your time being rude.

Also I'm 14. I'm not a ******** fluffy. I'm not Wiccan. I have hexed people who I believed deserved it, (Not an ex. Boyfriend, unlike Aila. A neighbor who had intent on hurting my familiar)

And I have tried. I've been caught before. She thinks I'm still the cute little Christian girl.

She's 52 (Turning 53) She wasn't brought up with the thought of Witchcraft being something different than the work of Satan.

`Germicide


ivorymystic
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 10:40 am


Aila-al-Jehan
You have to be ******** kidding me.

1. You havent told your mother yet? Are you NUTS? Your mother is your legal guardian, she has the high ground in the household, and you haven't told her that you've been thinking of starting something as controversial as witchcraft?

How OLD are you?

2. Your mother found your Tarot cards. She knows that there's most likely more along with it. Meaning she found out youre hiding something from her and you don't trust her enough to tell her no matter what the verdict. That means its going to be that much harder to hide anything.

3. If you can't hide them, how about leving them out in the open where she can find them and then actually TALKING to her about them? Because at this point, if you have nowhere to hide anything, why not have nothing to hide? Shew will find them anyway, its her house.

And you know what? Let her do it. The fact that you woould hide something that big from her isnt exactly a good thing. You don't know that she wouldn't understand. And If she doesnt, you wait until you're out from under her influence. You are a minor, she is your mother. And youre making a major life change without telling her.

Good job.

If you want to know how to tell her so that you have a fighting chance, post as such. But you know what? From the sound of your post, you are screwed. You don't have a choice but to let her know in the best way possible. And if she punishes you, well, take it like a woman.


Clearly this is a matter you care alot about, but you have to understand that not everyone has understanding parents. Even as being a minor, that doesnt mean that one has to be their slave and not have any interests that differ from their parents wishes.

I mean, my mom was trying to make me be a singer for 10 years and I hate singing. I agree that it is good to keep it in the open in some respects, but if you can't then you got to do what you got to do.

It isnt like she is hiding a rocket launcher under her bed, so your post was a bit overboard their.

Regardless of what I think of the matter, I am a crew member in the guild and am going to have to tell you to calm it down. Your post was very boarderline insulting so, lets not have that happen again.
PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 11:30 am


Why not slap some bible/christian book-covers over them and stick them in a book shelf? If that doesn't work, try loosening a few boardss in the floor or soemthing and hide them there. I know your position, my mom is the same way (with the exception of constant room inspections) but what I usually do is read up on the computer and such, that way she doesn't find anything.

The Mysterious Priest


`Germicide

PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 12:37 pm


>.< Well she doesn't really check my room. We were painting my room and she was looking for my DS (I think I lost it when I left it in the rental car then returned it) So she looked in my bag and a week before I had been lazy and not put them away in the hidden pocket of my bag. So she saw them and well... now I'm in this predicament.
PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 12:41 pm


Ive tried telling her in a calm way and at the right time.

You don't know people's lifestyles so you really shouldn't go around telling them they screwed up. Honestly. Get a life and learn to treat people with respect.

Well, you did, sadly enough. I get what youre saying. But the fact of the matter is that you tried to hide this from her and no matter what, you will lose. You have no rights under the constitution, my friend, freedom of religion does not apply to you. You practice what she wants you to, end of story.

I've tried telling her. SO MANY TIMES. But she'd cancel my phone, take away my internet, burn my books and sever all ties with me.

Which is why I said to wait until you leave her house and can sever all ties with her. She is supreme. Unless you can find a way to practice outside of her house, like at a friend's, you're not going to get away with something like that.


She's Christian. She thinks everything non Christian or Jewish is the work of Satan and is to be out of her house.

Sitting down and talking to my mom is like sitting and talking to a raving baboon. Its not going to happen, she's not going to listen.

She isn't one of those mothers who will listen and research a religion and finally say "Okay I understand" No. She listens to the Bible. NOT what some author of a book or a website will say.

And youre thinking I don't get that because? Its kind of obvious. I went to a christian school for a good long time, I know what they're like.

And as for you Aila, the moment I get a chance, I'm reporting you for your rudeness. You've overstayed your time being rude.

Reportedness. OOooo. Look, Its the truth. You are the one who decided to take up the practice against your mother's deepest beliefs. You're the one who decided to hide this betrayal from your mother, whether she's irrationally bigoted or no. You're the one who left your tarot cards where she could find them.

Legally, you are in the wrong, and she has the right to punish you as she sees fit. You're not allowed to practice in her house. So don't practice in your house. Find a friend or find an outside hideaway. But don't practice in her house. Thas the long and short of it.


Also I'm 14. I'm not a ******** fluffy. I'm not Wiccan. I have hexed people who I believed deserved it, (Not an ex. Boyfriend, unlike Aila. A neighbor who had intent on hurting my familiar)

...Huh? When did I hex an ex-boyfriend? Ive never even had a boyfriend. And why the HELL are you pointing that out? No one cares whether or not you are a fluffy or wiccan. You want to hex me for being mean, go ahead. I await your wrath.

And I have tried. I've been caught before. She thinks I'm still the cute little Christian girl.

She's 52 (Turning 53) She wasn't brought up with the thought of Witchcraft being something different than the work of Satan.

So she hasn't lost hope in you. Keep the facade up and don't ruin it. Don't let her have any reason to be suspicious.

And you know what? She doesn't get it. Thats not just her problem, but it's yours too. Until youre either 16 or 18, I forget which, you have to get that she doesnt get it and will never get it. And then what? When you move out of her house, then what? Will she find out youre a witch then? What will she do? She'll disown you, right? Maybe even stop helping you pay for your bills, etc?

This is something you really should not take underway until youre self sufficient. Im telling you. But if you don't want to listen, then don't.

Aila-al-Jehan


`Germicide

PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 12:46 pm


I refuse to be Christian. I don't want to be. Ever. There's nothing she can do. She can't sue me. She can take my books, items and whatnot and I'll still refuse to become Christian again.

yeah I screwed up. But you don't think I know that? I should have been much more careful. Now I know that and am.

You need to be a lot nicer when it comes to the way you treat people in this guild. Unless you know whats truly going on, I suggest you treat people with respect.
I asked for ideas. Not some lecture on how I can't choose my own religion until I'm 18. Your wall of text was a COMPLETE and UTTER Waste of your time.
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